2008 South China - Dongguan

[SE Asia Joe]

大冰 - 小冰

Had to do them myself.
The older one was better company, but the younger one I had to do first. How was it with you?

Yeah - I did do one of them singly (not quite sure which one!!) a month or so ago - and it wasn't until yesterday that I saw them both available at same time and I just needed to do it! Made a deal with the papasan and paid him 150 i/o 200 for the both of them and of course the 100 to each of them after the deed.
It was nice - not great - just nice - as they were acting like..... sisters!! Arguing, chatting, giving each other instructions, joking and whatever else whilst here was Poor Ole Joe just a side-show to their sisterly act!!
Oh well, what can I expect from doubles in china.

SEAJ

[Transporter]

大冰 - 小冰

Had to do them myself.
The older one was better company, but the younger one I had to do first. How was it with you?

Santa, Weelock - you guys been stuck in the States TOOOOO LONG!!!
Talking about economy, Crime, demand and supply.... Man!!!

Just get out here and DO IT!!

SEAJ

BTW - just had the 2 identical twins from Baby's yesterday!! Mission accomplished.... at last!! Not GREAT, but nice!! And as I said, its at least mission accomplished.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Santa, Weelock - you guys been stuck in the States TOOOOO LONG!
Talking about economy, Crime, demand and supply.... Man!

Just get out here and DO IT!

SEAJ

BTW - just had the 2 identical twins from Baby's yesterday!! Mission accomplished.... at last!! Not GREAT, but nice!! And as I said, its at least mission accomplished.

SEAJ,

OK Uncle Joe, I will take the next flight out of SFO tomorrow.

I hope it was the same twin I did last yr from Hunan.

Fast eddie 48

[SE Asia Joe]

Santa, Weelock - you guys been stuck in the States TOOOOO LONG!!!
Talking about economy, Crime, demand and supply.... Man!!!

Just get out here and DO IT!!

SEAJ

BTW - just had the 2 identical twins from Baby's yesterday!! Mission accomplished.... at last!! Not GREAT, but nice!! And as I said, its at least mission accomplished.

[OldAsiaHand]

Santa,

IMHO, the answer to most of your questions is yes. A market is a market regardless of the product. In an economic downturn, less mongers will travel and they will seek more economic alternatives e.g. BBS. Prices will drop. Many girls will give up and go home. All that said, I do not believe it has reached that point yet.

Just my POV.

OAH

Of course, this is not the economy forum, but if this economic crisis continues to get worse how will it effect the prostitution market?

Will there be less mongerers?

Will there be lots of empty ktv rooms?

A higher or lower demand at bbs?

An increased demand for handjobs and less demand for full service?

Will idle and unemployed guys and girls seek each other out for an exchange, causing higher rates of prostitution?

Will many girls give up the business because there are not enough customers?

Lower or higher prices?

More or less competition between girls?

Will many girls return to their home village? Or will many village girls head for the cities?

Will Santa this year only be able to afford one ho for Christmas?

[Santa]

[i]


Pessimistic Side:
Yes, I agee, when unemployment goes up crime does too. It will be more dangerous traveling.

Optimistic Side:
On the bright side it means most likely more girls avaliable.

Of course, this is not the economy forum, but if this economic crisis continues to get worse how will it effect the prostitution market?

Will there be less mongerers?

Will there be lots of empty ktv rooms?

A higher or lower demand at bbs?

An increased demand for handjobs and less demand for full service?

Will idle and unemployed guys and girls seek each other out for an exchange, causing higher rates of prostitution?

Will many girls give up the business because there are not enough customers?

Lower or higher prices?

More or less competition between girls?

Will many girls return to their home village? Or will many village girls head for the cities?

Will Santa this year only be able to afford one ho for Christmas?

[Weelock]

I don't know anything about crime rates, but when unemployment goes up crime rates do too.

They had a report on BBC today about thousands of factory closures in GuangDong. Many angry workers who never got paid and long lines at the GuangZhou train stations of workers going home to their own provinces.

Jobseeker numbers rose by 10.2 million in the first 10 months of 2008, exceeding China's official projection for the entire year by two percent.
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China's official urban unemployment rate is still about 4 percent, but could rise to 4.5 percent by the end of the year. But these official figures fail to reflect hundreds of millions of Chinese villagers who go to the cities to seek work.
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In southern China's Dongguan city had to pay 24 million yuan (US$3.51 million) to more than 7,000 employees after two toy-making factories went bankrupt partly due to slumping exports.




http://english.ntdtv.com/?c=145&a=6058

http://www.bt.com.bn/en/internationa...f_unemployment



Pessimistic Side:
Yes, I agee, when unemployment goes up crime does too. It will be more dangerous traveling.

Optimistic Side:
It means most likely more girls avaliable to play with....

[Freepeaks]

Hui Hui is still a good choice hotel with a great sauna. Had a cute Japanese looking girl in a flight attendant out fit who basically soaked her little panties with just a few minutes of foreplay. Damage was 300 + 268 for the room. No change.

Hui Hui? you mean Hui Hua or ??? I thought the Virgin Sauna was the only one with nurse uniforms, flight attendants and naughty outfits.

[Santa]

Just spent 2 days in CP. These days with a lot of factory closures, crime is rampant. Be careful everywhere you go. Drivers are even telling stories of bodies being found in ditches or road sides

I don't know anything about crime rates, but when unemployment goes up crime rates do too.

They had a report on BBC today about thousands of factory closures in GuangDong. Many angry workers who never got paid and long lines at the GuangZhou train stations of workers going home to their own provinces.

[Dannycat]

Hoseguy,

If you find a good BBS or Mom/pop in Houjie let me know.

I go there once a week and have not found one.

Thanks

[Old Mean Dog]

Just spent 2 days in CP. These days with a lot of factory closures, crime is rampant. Be careful everywhere you go. Drivers are even telling stories of bodies being found in ditches or road sides with organs taken out.

Went with a buddy from HK to the alley (back of shop street) behind the Hui Mei hotel and a mommy took us to a room in one of the shop with plenty of young factory type girls. The all varies in size and looks but 1/2 were stoned on something. The guys at the doors were nervous about the cops and they all seem figgety which made my buddy and I nervous as well.

Again, be careful...it may not be the cops after them but another gang. Last thing is to get caught in the crossfire. Cleavers and bullets are cheap in China.

I agree with your initial crime point, but lets be honest here. The shops behind the Hui Mei, have always been considered a secondary area for most of us who know CP. That area is to be destroyed and/or cleaned up, police are always hassling the shops. I've been trapped in some of those shops in the past when the police decided to camp out front and had to sneak out the back way. The mom/pops have a good lookout system there and if the cops do decide to camp, dump the girl before evacuating the shop and get her later, the bosses know how the game is played as well.

If your gonna be in this hobby, you gotta learn how the game is played.

-CPE

BTW: The Poppa always looks nervous.

[Cdnlapcheong]

Just spent 2 days in CP. These days with a lot of factory closures, crime is rampant. Be careful everywhere you go. Drivers are even telling stories of bodies being found in ditches or road sides with organs taken out.

Went with a buddy from HK to the alley (back of shop street) behind the Hui Mei hotel and a mommy took us to a room in one of the shop with plenty of young factory type girls. The all varies in size and looks but 1/2 were stoned on something. The guys at the doors were nervous about the cops and they all seem figgety which made my buddy and I nervous as well.

Again, be careful...it may not be the cops after them but another gang. Last thing is to get caught in the crossfire. Cleavers and bullets are cheap in China.

Hui Hui is still a good choice hotel with a great sauna. Had a cute Japanese looking girl in a flight attendant out fit who basically soaked her little panties with just a few minutes of foreplay. Damage was 300 + 268 for the room. No change.

[Moody]

Split time between both locations? Do the long 45 min commute to Changping from Houjie?

This is a really bad idea. Most likely, the girls won't want to go back to Houjie with you, especially the BBS types, so you'll have to either rent a ST room or go exclusively to saunas. Second, unless your Asian and know how to haggle, you'll blow more money on cab fare and ST rooms than just paying for a hotel room in CP. If you're going to be in Houjie, just stay in Houjie. If you want to be in CP, just stay in CP.

[Old Mean Dog]

Was wondering if the more experienced members here can offer advice on a dillema I have. Basically I'm going to be in either HouJie or Shenzhen for a period of 2-3 weeks spanning Christmas and New Years. I have to spend my hotel points so am limited to staying in the Sheraton Dongguan or the Four Points Sheraton in Shenzhen. Reading the forum, seems like both locations are not perfect for mongering. Four Points does not seem to be that close to the infamous Seibu BBS area and reports on Houjie seem to indicate more KTV action than BBS action.

How should I spend the time? All in Shenzhen or all in Dongguan? Split time between both locations? Do the long 45 min commute to Changping from Houjie?

Also can anyone advise if its business as usual for these two locations during the holiday period?

Thanks

It's certainly easier to move around in Shenzhen, especially if you don't speak good Chinese.

-CPE

[Santa]

And if the gal had known that she was on the rag, I would think that she wouldn't have even bothered to come in to work.

SEAJ

I'm not so sure about that. Money is a powerful reinforcer and most of these gals will do just about anything to get more money.

I think that some of the sauna and ktv girls also work in the bbs, but only when they ARE on the rag. When the guy cannot finish because he discovers the problem, she plays innocent, but still wants payment.