Bangkok Massage Parlors - TULIP ONLY!

[Member #4698]

(1) Tulip service is amazing, but (2) truth be told aside from rimming and A+, you should expect everything else from every session everywhere. I do. And I let it be known ahead of time. I'm very upfront. Tell them I expect them to perform like they are in a "sex movie" or with their boyfriend. If they agree and don't perform, season ends and they get a couple hundred baht.

1. But the Tulip girls are, how shall I phrase this gently, of dubious quality looks-wise. To each his own I guess, but not for me since I place a large degree of importance on looks and body quality. Besides, I don't need porn star service most of the time unless I am expressly going to a porn star place to receive such service which leads me to point #2: It is good that you expect a certain minimum level of service and will not settle for less, but honestly, what are you stats on receiving such service these days at Tulip, SW, Mango ect. 75%, 50% of the time? I am just curious. It has been a long time since I have been to SW or even Mango. I used to know a couple of really talented, super friendly providers in Mango that also looked pretty good, but they are no longer around and their replacements just don't look attractive to me. I have moved on.

[Goatscrot]

In today's Thailand, I doubt think extra 200-500 baht per session would be anywhere close to enough to bring in the good-looking girls ready to happily provide all the services that Tulip is famous for to all comers. Tulip requires a certain kind of hardened yet conscientious professional, and the supply is limited. A girl who is the least bit squeamish about doing anal, rimming and gagging for 1500 baht sure won't be doing the same for 2000 or 3000 baht either, they'd simply find easier venues.

Not sure where your assertion that every almost customer is a non-local comes from. In fact, given their exceptional service and disappointing looks as well as marketing that's almost exclusively word-of-mouth (online or offline), I would venture a guess that Tulip relies on regulars more than other sex venues. The regulars would surely hardly be thrilled with a price increase, and would visit less often or go to competitors like Snow While and Cherry. Personally, if my choice were 4 BJs at Star of Light vs one session at Tulip, SOL would be an easy choice.

Tulip service is amazing, but truth be told aside from rimming and A+, you should expect everything else from every session everywhere. I do. And I let it be known ahead of time. I'm very upfront. Tell them I expect them to perform like they are in a "sex movie" or with their boyfriend. If they agree and don't perform, season ends and they get a couple hundred baht.

[Syzygies]

In today's Thailand, I doubt think extra 200-500 baht per session would be anywhere close to enough to bring in the good-looking girls ready to happily provide all the services that Tulip is famous for to all comers. Tulip requires a certain kind of hardened yet conscientious professional, and the supply is limited. A girl who is the least bit squeamish about doing anal, rimming and gagging for 1500 baht sure won't be doing the same for 2000 or 3000 baht either, they'd simply find easier venues.

Yes. Many years ago, MPs were expensive and the bargirls were cheap. Now it has gone the other way. Bargirls get heaps more and may not deserve it, and MP girls get the same as they always got, with very few price rises. Makes sense all the pretty girls have moved out of MPs to where they can make money easier.

Pin at Boss Massage was good enough looking to get me to make a booking and I intended to repeat, early last year (or year before). However she moved to working on the street in Soi 4, because she can make a lot more money there, she says. Can't remember now if I have done an MP girl this year. Ha ha. Okay Have done an ex MP girl or two. I must go and try again. Find a pretty one with good body. Maybe I have to look in Doki Doki and see if girls are sufficient standard in looks, and look in a few others.

A few years now since my last Tulip booking. They may have some O.K. girls that I just did not meet. Can't recall any Snow White bookings for a long time either. My last really memorable pretty girl in MPs was in Orient more than a year ago, and she had to leave due to raids for non Thai citizens, so see her privately now. Her English is virtually zero.

[Crocodilexp]

I honestly think to attract new girls, Tulip need to increase their price so girls make more. They can easily charge 2100/2400/2700 for 60/90/120 minutes or even 2200/2600/3000 THB. Almost every customer that comes there is non-local spending lot of money in flight and for hotel stay and will happily pay few hundred baht etc which is win-win for everyone in this two sided marketplace.

In today's Thailand, I doubt think extra 200-500 baht per session would be anywhere close to enough to bring in the good-looking girls ready to happily provide all the services that Tulip is famous for to all comers. Tulip requires a certain kind of hardened yet conscientious professional, and the supply is limited. A girl who is the least bit squeamish about doing anal, rimming and gagging for 1500 baht sure won't be doing the same for 2000 or 3000 baht either, they'd simply find easier venues.

Not sure where your assertion that every almost customer is a non-local comes from. In fact, given their exceptional service and disappointing looks as well as marketing that's almost exclusively word-of-mouth (online or offline), I would venture a guess that Tulip relies on regulars more than other sex venues. The regulars would surely hardly be thrilled with a price increase, and would visit less often or go to competitors like Snow While and Cherry. Personally, if my choice were 4 BJs at Star of Light vs one session at Tulip, SOL would be an easy choice.

[Ed Setra]

And that's why tipping the service provider is important at the end of every session.

Yeah, I'm happy to tip for good service too (more as investment for the future rather than reward, in all honesty, it's a culture thing).

[Ed Setra]

It is unfortunate as Tulip model is far better than any other options. Tulip provide predictability and same high quality of service almost all the time at below market rate considering the girls only make 1500 THB per session.

The new mediums are not predictable and costly instead of being inversely proportional. People are paying 5000 THB for 2 hours after paying to some app and then also getting rated by the service provider which is absolutely ridiculous concept.

I honestly think to attract new girls, Tulip need to increase their price so girls make more. They can easily charge 2100/2400/2700 for 60/90/120 minutes or even 2200/2600/3000 THB. Almost every customer that comes there is non-local spending lot of money in flight and for hotel stay and will happily pay few hundred baht etc which is win-win for everyone in this two sided marketplace.

I agree with what you say mostly, although not sure I follow the reasoning of the 'inversely proportional' argument (why should the new media be either / or?)

I think price increases will happen though to match other shops, but not be passed on to staff in pay hikes. In reality, I can't see the owners increasing the pay of the providers seeing as it hasn't moved over the last number of years. I do not think it would attract new entrants much as the potential new staff are already dabbling in new media from an early age.

But increased pay would certainly boost retention of existing staff (clearly not what most ISG members want, 555).

I don't think they will be employing consultants for a strategic business review any time soon either.

[Reaper78]

It is unfortunate as Tulip model is far better than any other options. Tulip provide predictability and same high quality of service almost all the time at below market rate considering the girls only make 1500 THB per session.

The new mediums are not predictable and costly instead of being inversely proportional. People are paying 5000 THB for 2 hours after paying to some app and then also getting rated by the service provider which is absolutely ridiculous concept.

I honestly think to attract new girls, Tulip need to increase their price so girls make more. They can easily charge 2100/2400/2700 for 60/90/120 minutes or even 2200/2600/3000 THB. Almost every customer that comes there is non-local spending lot of money in flight and for hotel stay and will happily pay few hundred baht etc which is win-win for everyone in this two sided marketplace.

And that's why tipping the service provider is important at the end of every session.

[JasonSilva]

I think the Tulip business model is probably on the way out. Sad for me to say it.

Ferry seems to be the only recent recruit who is under 30. The onerous daily hours, rules, uncertain earnings, 'fees and fines' and restrictions imposed on the girls in these places are reason enough not to work there and to choose another option.

The internet based freelance and social media methods of making contact are growing and the old shops' days are numbered.

Enjoy it while you can.

It is unfortunate as Tulip model is far better than any other options. Tulip provide predictability and same high quality of service almost all the time at below market rate considering the girls only make 1500 THB per session.

The new mediums are not predictable and costly instead of being inversely proportional. People are paying 5000 THB for 2 hours after paying to some app and then also getting rated by the service provider which is absolutely ridiculous concept.

I honestly think to attract new girls, Tulip need to increase their price so girls make more. They can easily charge 2100/2400/2700 for 60/90/120 minutes or even 2200/2600/3000 THB. Almost every customer that comes there is non-local spending lot of money in flight and for hotel stay and will happily pay few hundred baht etc which is win-win for everyone in this two sided marketplace.

[Syzygies]

The probability in this instance: he said he spent 60 minutes and paid 2300.

The cost in Tulip is 1900 for 60 minutes. If he paid up front for 60 minutes then he paid 1900 at the desk and possibly tipped 400 afterwards.

Or if he paid for 2 hours he paid 2300 at the desk and left after 60, so tipped the desk 400.

Nah those things are not necessarily the most probable but show your bias. 2300 for 2 hours is a simple solution with a good probability, even he wrote 60 mins. When the facts presented don't gel, there have to be many possible solutions. I make typos myself, quite often. he could well have booked 2 hours but left after 60 mins and misremembered.

People like myself would never book 60 minutes at Tulip. Just too rushed. I would not even specify any tip if I posted.
I "presume" or "assume" their are a fair number of guys, other than myself who would also like longer than 60 minutes.
Especially all those multiple pop guys.

Tipping the desk 400! Ha ha. Too ridiculous. Are you trying to be ironical?

Since you want to be technical about presumption, I like this definition I got off the web, more than yours:
'1. An idea that is taken to be true, and often used as the basis for other ideas, although it is not known for certain.
"underlying presumptions about human nature"
an act or instance of taking something to be true or adopting a particular attitude toward something, especially at the start of a chain of argument or action.
"the presumption of guilt has changed to a presumption of innocence"
synonyms: assumption, supposition, presupposition, belief, thought, guess, expectation, judgment, surmise, conjecture, speculation, hypothesis, postulation, premise, generalization, inference, deduction, conclusion
"this presumption may be easily rebutted"

2. behaviour perceived as arrogant, disrespectful, and transgressing the limits of what is permitted or appropriate.'

[TiaMoman]

Guys,

Sorry to bother you all.

It was a typo in my Gop Adventure FR.

It was 120 mins & not 60 minutes.

Please accept my apologies & I enjoyed those 120 mins!

[DanCee]

Why assume that? 60 minutes is not enough for some of us. If the girls is crap, then I won't be there past 20 minutes, but otherwise take at least 90.

Given your knowledge displays here you will be aware that presumption is supposition based on probability, assumption is supposition without evidence.

The probability in this instance: he said he spent 60 minutes and paid 2300.

The cost in Tulip is 1900 for 60 minutes. If he paid up front for 60 minutes then he paid 1900 at the desk and possibly tipped 400 afterwards.

Or if he paid for 2 hours he paid 2300 at the desk and left after 60, so tipped the desk 400.

Like you I prefer 90 minutes, but that is irrelevant in the pricing stated.

[Syzygies]

Nice report. I presume you tipped 400 Baht. The price for 60 minutes is 1900 Baht, 2300 is for 120 minutes.

Why assume that? 60 minutes is not enough for some of us. If the girls is crap, then I won't be there past 20 minutes, but otherwise take at least 90.

[DanCee]

I would suggest Ying. I saw her a couple of months ago and she did not disappoint. Plenty of ISG reports to refer to including mine.

I believe I read that Ying is on holiday in April, otherwise she off on Fridays.

SL.

Yes indeed, another vote for the fabulous Ying. I spent some memorable times with her in March, both in the shop and at my hotel.

I believe she will return near the end of April.

[DanCee]

Charges: 2300.

Time: 60 minutes.

About Gop / Golf:

Overall service:9/10.

Nice report. I presume you tipped 400 Baht. The price for 60 minutes is 1900 Baht, 2300 is for 120 minutes.

[Sunlover2]

I will try and ask for June as well. If she is not available, who would be second.

I would suggest Ying. I saw her a couple of months ago and she did not disappoint. Plenty of ISG reports to refer to including mine.

I believe I read that Ying is on holiday in April, otherwise she off on Fridays.

SL.