Bangkok Massage Parlors - TULIP ONLY!

[Catire]

Commonly repeated but very abstract statistics from Western studies that don't really apply to this part of the world whatsoever.

They don't take into consideration the strain of HIV (in Thailand mostly sub-type E which is highly contagious among heteros), viral load of the carrier, abrasions caused by repeat sex, concurrent STD infections, or any number of other factors.

"it has been estimated that the heterosexual HIV transmission rate in Thailand (where sub-type E predominates) is fifty-fold higher than that observed in USA and Europe (where sub-type be predominates). " http://www.unsw.edu.au/ashm/HIV_JC.1...ril_1996b.html.

Then again John Holmes was "blessed" to die from AIDS.

One has to use a basic set of statistics. The other factors are duly noted and known to people who study such things (the strain part is interesting).

Your link no longer works and I would love to see a study more recent than from over 20 years ago (1996). Currently, if the carrier is taking their aids medicine (almost free in Thailand to its citizens) the viral load of the carrier can be undectable, and if it's undetectable for 6 months plus, the carrier is no longer a "carrier" (provided they keep taking the meds).

Furthermore, I can buy the Thai equivalent of Truvada at a pharmacy in BKK (a month's supply for 18 dollars, in US you pay 1500 for brand name) there has been exactly ONE case of failure of this preventative therapy for HIV negative people who have positive partners (for many years, all types of sex, etc).

So if I were in BKK long enough to take the generic truvadas to build up the levels in my blood, I'd play those odds.

You're free to differ. On the other hand, you are also the guy who considers 24 year old women, "old hags" and of course anything 30 over, should be banned from public (aka your) sight.

I always like to know the facts from people who have "skin in the game" (aka the people most directly impacted by these results). As such..poz.com is an excellent site to peruse.

[Rick Rock]

Well. Vaginal risk for guy with pos woman is 1 in 4000. For woman it's 1 in 2000.

Butt for guy is 1 in 2000 or so. For woman it's closer to 1 in 800 perhaps 1 in 500.

Commonly repeated but very abstract statistics from Western studies that don't really apply to this part of the world whatsoever.

They don't take into consideration the strain of HIV (in Thailand mostly sub-type E which is highly contagious among heteros), viral load of the carrier, abrasions caused by repeat sex, concurrent STD infections, or any number of other factors.

"it has been estimated that the heterosexual HIV transmission rate in Thailand (where sub-type E predominates) is fifty-fold higher than that observed in USA and Europe (where sub-type be predominates). " http://www.unsw.edu.au/ashm/HIV_JC.1...ril_1996b.html.

in this sense I am blessed not to have John Holmesian proportions

Then again John Holmes was "blessed" to die from AIDS.

[Rick Rock]

I'll let you know if I get a STD.

Please do. I wouldn't fuck a woman over the age of 40 if she paid me, but I am interested to see how barebacking that dirty used anus works out for you in the long run.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

It seems our common favorite venue have been not much discuss these recently! Any new report of your encounters with our favorite talent such as Ying, Golf etc.

Surely will visiting them on my next trip to LOS! My little brother (not little at all) are thirsting the warm pussies of all talents at Tulips! I remember how Ying sucks my dick and licks my balls and keep telling me how hard she feel inside her pussies!

Wish to hear more update from you guys!

Cheers,

MD.

[Syzygies]

I'm out of shape, get tired banging quickly, so have her do cowboy, then finish me with hand and mouth. Showers me again. I ask if can recommend to you, she says yes, wants to go home with me for night and if lives with me will fuck me every day. I would like to try that. I would repeat right now If not 12 time zones away.

I think it is very quiet now and girls are struggling to get money. What is "cowboy" by the way? Is it same as cowgirl or different?

[Thai9]

Was going to go to SnoWhite and at last minute read they stopped anal, so went with Tulip. I made a list of recommended ladies. Golf seems to be the favorite of ISG guys, also Janet, Dao, Yaya, Ying and Opor. They don't have a web site and I didn't have a phone, so I decide to wing it as I don't have much time to wait anyway. I ask for Golf, guy says 90 minute wait, I ask for Janet, he say yes and she appears right behind me. There are other ladies there but I didn't look them over. She leads me upstairs, she showers me, asks how old I think she is (I can never tell) and says she is 43, has a kid. Very nice body, smallish breasts, nice ass. She dries me, lays me down on the bed with a big mirror on the side so you can just turn your head and see what she is doing. Good BBBJ, I liked the wet sliding up and down my shaft with the width of her tongue when outside her mouth. Then she had me go all 4's for rimming, Then "stand up" beside bed, she backs in on all 4's and slides my bare dick right into her pussy. I bang for a while, then rub her anus with a thumb. Like I flipped a switch, she pulls off me, puts on a condom, backs on to my dick into her ass. Wow. She wants me to come, I tell her it is difficult for me, so she pulls off the condom and repeats bareback anal. Wow Wow. Let my guard down there, but it felt great. I'll let you know if I get a STD. I'm out of shape, get tired banging quickly, so have her do cowboy, then finish me with hand and mouth. Showers me again. I ask if can recommend to you, she says yes, wants to go home with me for night and if lives with me will fuck me every day. I would like to try that. I would repeat right now If not 12 time zones away.

BTS to Thonglor Station, go out exit 4, when you walk to the T with an escalator on the right and stairs on the left, you are almost right above Tulip. Make a you turn at the bottom of the stairs, cross 38 and you will see it on your left with a big sign over the door. 13.723811, 100.578841.

[Catire]

Very sensible, re BB butt fucking. As all should be aware, it is far easier to catch HIV while BB butt fucking than normal fucking. With normal fucking, a guy could do a HIV positive girl occasionally and get lucky every time, and not catch anything. Unfortunately for the girl, her chance of catching HIV from a guy in normal fucking is much higher than the reverse.

Very few girls told me they actually liked anal, most did not. When I have been doing girls (not talking Tulip here) long term, and I ask would they like me to fuck their ass sometimes, they usually / always say no thanks, they like pussy sex much more. I am a strange one, maybe. I need my girls to be having a good time and enthusiastic. Hence my count of girls ass fucked is probably only 6 different girls ever, and two were western girls. Others were in Tulip, Mango, SW, etc. Maybe guys that take ass every time will have greatly different views. I assume guys that need ass, take it for psychological reasons or because the pussy is too loose for them. Maybe they could enjoy LBs too, I don't know.

If uglier Tulip girls worked in a gogo bar, would they get enough customers wanting to BF and fuck them? Maybe not, unless they accepted bargain basement prices. Would they be game to display their body on the stage?

Well. Vaginal risk for guy with pos woman is 1 in 4000. For woman it's 1 in 2000.

Butt for guy is 1 in 2000 or so. For woman it's closer to 1 in 800 perhaps 1 in 500. (depending on how rough it is. The rougher the more likely to damage lining and blood mixes, etc).

Personally have never found an "anal queen" - but I know they exist (rare, but they exist) and have had several tell me they actually climaxed that way.

What is more likely is a girl who will like it, at least once in a a while. But WITH THE "RIGHT" GUY. Which means his dick is the right size for her. He knows what he's doing and this way she can actually enjoy it.

(this happened with my later to turn out pos thai freelancer last year. Had only tried it once before, it hurt her. Had not done it for a long time, but was still somewhat curious to try). I made it "work" for her, and she actually came the 2nd time when I was up her ass. First time was in pussy).

had another Thai freelancer a while back (again a milf, this seems to work best with milfs) let me try it.. and I could tell that she "kinda dug it" (which she later admitted to me she initially did, or was not nearly as bad as she had feared) . I was going to cultivate that one, but she has disappeared

in this sense I am blessed not to have John Holmesian proportions

[Syzygies]

I think I'll bring a couple of Oraquik kits with me, and that's how I'll wade into the BBFS issue. No way will I stick anything uncovered, as much as I would love to, into a rectal orifice, that is plugged by hundreds of men if not thousands within a year unless I get the "green light".

(I hooked up with a great freelancer last year who I gave the test to and she turned out out positive!! That put the fear of _ into me).

What / Who draws these women to work at a place like Tulip? Are they naturally into anal and or playing a porn star, etc? After all, these are older ladies, in their 30's right? (that doesn't bother me, BTW women that age are often the best sexual experiences).

Very sensible, re BB butt fucking. As all should be aware, it is far easier to catch HIV while BB butt fucking than normal fucking. With normal fucking, a guy could do a HIV positive girl occasionally and get lucky every time, and not catch anything. Unfortunately for the girl, her chance of catching HIV from a guy in normal fucking is much higher than the reverse.

Free Lancers are not getting check ups most likely. They could have been doing BB with anyone for many years. They are more likely to be HIV positive than bargirls in my opinion.

As to why Tulip for the girl, we have to understand that these girls may not have best looks or body, or they don't see themselves dancing in public on a podium, or they don't want to have to go sucking up to customers. Girls will probably pick the MP where they think they can make the most money. If providing anal means they can get a lot more customers, they may decide they can stand it. Yet I never found girls offering me anal, without me asking for it, except on rare occasion of girls I knew who maybe had a sore damaged pussy. Girls say they can stand anal better with guys that will cum relatively quicker, and dick not too large. I have been ruled out for fucking too long. Very few girls told me they actually liked anal, most did not. When I have been doing girls (not talking Tulip here) long term, and I ask would they like me to fuck their ass sometimes, they usually / always say no thanks, they like pussy sex much more. I am a strange one, maybe. I need my girls to be having a good time and enthusiastic. Hence my count of girls ass fucked is probably only 6 different girls ever, and two were western girls. Others were in Tulip, Mango, SW, etc. Maybe guys that take ass every time will have greatly different views. I assume guys that need ass, take it for psychological reasons or because the pussy is too loose for them. Maybe they could enjoy LBs too, I don't know.

If uglier Tulip girls worked in a gogo bar, would they get enough customers wanting to BF and fuck them? Maybe not, unless they accepted bargain basement prices. Would they be game to display their body on the stage?

[Macho Dik]

Technically you are correct, but sero conversion occurs 95% of the time within a month.

But you are correct, even a month given the high volume these women handle of the riskiest activity, gives one pause.

IF these women actually had monthly checkups, then the risk would be reduced

The most safest and guaranteed way is practice abstinence. But is it possible? That is one of the hell questions!

[Catire]

Be aware that a window period from infection to developing antibodies (and thus a positive Oraquick) test is about 3 months. Therefore, a negative Oraquick result is a 92% guarantee (that's their false negative rate) that a girl didn't have HIV 3 months ago. For a Tulip girl, 3 months means being plugged by roughly 80-250 different men, all within the period NOT covered by the test.

Sure, that test might be better than nothing, but I'd rather just wrap it up.

Technically you are correct, but sero conversion occurs 95% of the time within a month.

But you are correct, even a month given the high volume these women handle of the riskiest activity, gives one pause.

IF these women actually had monthly checkups, then the risk would be reduced

[Crocodilexp]

Oraquik kits... that's how I'll wade into the BBFS issue. No way will I stick anything uncovered, as much as I would love to, into a rectal orifice, that is plugged by hundreds of men if not thousands within a year unless I get the "green light".

Be aware that a window period from infection to developing antibodies (and thus a positive Oraquick) test is about 3 months. Therefore, a negative Oraquick result is a 92% guarantee (that's their false negative rate) that a girl didn't have HIV 3 months ago. For a Tulip girl, 3 months means being plugged by roughly 80-250 different men, all within the period NOT covered by the test.

Sure, that test might be better than nothing, but I'd rather just wrap it up.

[Crocodilexp]

Visited Tulip on 17th Dec around afternoon time. Only old ladies and still thought to try out. 1900 THB for an hour. It was very disappointing. Next day was around Sukhumvit Soi23 visited another parlour, had great time. Wold never think of going to Tulip ever. They seem to have gone.

What was disappointing? If it was the looks, we know. If it was service, in what way?

How was the unspecified other parlor in Soi 23 great, what did the girls do?

[Donnie111]

Hello guys,

I'm new here and quite interested to visit Tulip.

Which girls do you recommend?

I like anal sex, CIM and rimming.

I prefer her to be as naughty as possible.

Which other shops provide same service?

Thanks.

[EihTooms]

Visited Tulip on 17th Dec around afternoon time. Only old ladies and still thought to try out. 1900 THB for an hour. It was very disappointing. Next day was around Sukhumvit Soi23 visited another parlour, had great time. Wold never think of going to Tulip ever. They seem to have gone.

Could you elaborate on which Soi 23 Massage Shop you visited and what was great about your time there? I have delved deeper into what many of those Soi 23 shop girls mean when they grab my hand as I walk by tell me they will give me a great time and it has without exception turned out to be "NO" to anything I would be willing to pay for like a BBBJ+CIM. But what was your experience like and where?

[Catire]

I think I'll bring a couple of Oraquik kits with me, and that's how I'll wade into the BBFS issue. No way will I stick anything uncovered, as much as I would love to, into a rectal orifice, that is plugged by hundreds of men if not thousands within a year unless I get the "green light".

(I hooked up with a great freelancer last year who I gave the test to and she turned out out positive!! That put the fear of _ into me).

As a segue, since this topic is being discussed.

What / Who draws these women to work at a place like Tulip? Are they naturally into anal and or playing a porn star, etc? After all, these are older ladies, in their 30's right? (that doesn't bother me, BTW women that age are often the best sexual experiences).

So how / where does Tulip (and other such places) find their ladies?

Do these women make more than bargirls? (doesn't sound like it?) is it pure money?? They're just insatiable and kinky and the money helps / doesn't hurt?

Or what??