Bangkok Massage Parlors - TULIP ONLY!

[Crocodilexp]

"no significant supply" maybe correct but pretty ones still exist. Check your photos of girls from many years ago and see how many were really pretty back then. You may find you don't have many better girls from yesteryear.

You're right that even in the heyday, very few working girls were real stunners. However, many had a certain simple girl-next-door attractiveness and Thai charm, which is exceedingly rare among working girls these days (if it exists at all). Moreover, you could find a fair number of such attractive girl-next-door types on every corner of lower Sukhumvit at night. Maybe my taste is unusual; the scene these days is surely better for punters who like crude tattoos, bad nosejobs, and those god-awful drawn eyebrows (many normal girls have them these days too). To be honest, I'm not that picky, I'd go for an average looking Thai girl on the Skytrain (in the literal sense of "average", not as a euphemism for "ugly" but unfortunately, crude and filthy looks are an instant turnoff.

It might still be possible to find a sex worker in their 20's who looks physically ok (especially fine in photos, some girls are photogenic), but it's unlikely they'll have a nice modest and soothing attitude to match. In fact, ok looking girls in the industry these days are fare more likely to realize they're pretty and in demand, and develop a rather uppity attitude.

[Syzygies]

We don't get that choice. In Thailand these days, there's no significant supply of especially attractive 20 year olds are at any price. To clarify, I mean any sensible price in mongering venues / areas; of course you could still get almost anyone to sleep with you for 100 k baht, or charm a civilian.

"no significant supply" maybe correct but pretty ones still exist. Check your photos of girls from many years ago and see how many were really pretty back then. You may find you don't have many better girls from yesteryear. We get more and more picky / fussy. I accept that.

I have seen pics of Natty Bumpo's girls and he is still managing to find good to extremely pretty girls. His taste happens to be similar to mine. I am less active. I found a girl I would describe as pretty in Kazy (new bar) recently after being there for 40 minutes. Yes it ain't easy to find them, once we are picky.

I even found a moderately pretty girl with great tits in an Oily MP recently. It requires a lot of browsing to find them.

Yes the scene is spoiled by girls with too many surgeries. Also pretty girls find alternative work to being hookers, but not if they have no decent education most likely, unless they are tall enough to be a model. A good percentage of the better looking girls are now deciding to be "Coyotes" which is spoiling the gogo bar scene somewhat. Still many can be had for a possibly high price, depending on the bar.

Some of us are still going the path to choose good looking girls (and hope to get a good experience if lucky) over ordinary looking girls with fabulous service, or porn stars. The porn star experience with an average (or worse) looking girl is not first choice for all, in fact must be a long time since I did one of those. Also girls with good bodies is not the same as a beautiful girl for me. Great body and ugly face is not doing it for me. Fortunately I don't have a problem to do brown skinned Isaan girls since 90%+ are Isaan anyway. Yet I don't choose broad flat noses.

[Crocodilexp]

Back in Thailand and current day, if I have to choose between youth and looks and age and experience (which, apparently, we have to choose between), it's an easy choice for me. I take the 40 year old who fucks like a beast over the 20 year old starfish who wants 5000 baht short-time because she's pretty.

We don't get that choice. In Thailand these days, there's no significant supply of especially attractive 20 year olds are at any price. To clarify, I mean any sensible price in mongering venues / areas; of course you could still get almost anyone to sleep with you for 100 k baht, or charm a civilian.

At best, in top agogos paying the top price, one could get a rather crude 20-25 year old From Issan who'd not rank especially high on looks back in her village, let alone in Bangkok. If you took 20 top agogo girls and 80 random girls of the same age riding the Skytrain, virtually all the agogo girls would be in the bottom half (or third) by looks, with very few breaking into the average, let alone pretty, zone. Add to that the awful tattoos, bad nose jobs, ugly thick eyebrows, and it doesn't get any better. Thermae girls may fare slightly better, but the pretty ones are likely to reject non-Japanese, and that's just no fun.

It's not especially hard to choose a great and reliable performer like Ying over the above, anytime.

Unfortunately, this eliminates one important aspect of mongering, which is browsing, spending time surrounded by willing females allowing you to make a choice (a luxury men tend not to have in most places). Decent service can still be found in Thailand, but I miss the time when I could go out not knowing what pleasure or surprise the night might bring, those days are long gone. It's no longer exciting or fun, even if I could walk into Tulip and get decent service from a known provider.

I've been in Hong Kong about a year ago, and there, you can still come across an occasional working girl, streetwalker or 141, who actually looks attractive or at least average in a positive sense (compared to civilians, not the dregs). Unfortunately, service is usually atrocious, although prices, surprisingly, aren't higher than Bangkok (per session / shot; if you count per minute, Thailand still wins).

Sadly, it's not just Thailand going down in quality, but every single mongering scene I'm familiar with. Admittedly, I haven't tried South America, crime is a significant deterrent, especially in places like Venezuela which should theoretically offer great mongering (since I like doing stuff other than mongering too, without having to look over my shoulder).

[Franciscass]

All experience is relative.

Recently a friend of mine who lives In LA where he is a successful film music composer came for a visit. Although not exactly an A- Lister he gets laid as often as wants there. More to the point he a well-traveled seasoned P4P player in Central and South America. But this was his first outing in the orient. Two weeks later totally knocked out by the experience vows he is coming back to live here and will now only marry a Thai girl.

OK I know I know that may change after the next visit or two but my point is that Thailand still remains for the first time visitor the same as it was 20 years ago a wonderful oasis full of culture, spirituality, beautiful girls, charm, culinary delights et al.

I have lived here over 20 years and yes of course it has changed. But I am aware I have also changed grown grumpier and less tolerant. Thing is I am aware of these changes and how they affect my perspective and as a result I try to adjust and compensate.

There were times like all expats and retirees when I got a bit fed up with the scene, increasing prices, immigration getting more of a hassle, P4P getting more opportunistic as the"age of innocence' fades but I have never felt an unwanted guest here among a wide circle of Thai friends and colleagues and I have never wanted to live anywhere else.

There may be a Shangri- La out there for those tired of living here because the good ole days are no more but for me this is it and always will be.

[Kuratla]

While it is true that Ying is a great performer, I did not move half way around the globe to partake with 40 year old MILFs. I want to look down after I finish and think, wow, not meh. I can get that at home, for free. And yes, for the most part, performance would be on par. I've never had an issue with performance, since my first GF when I was 15. In fact, almost all the gals back home I have dated, lived with, or been married to have been hornier than me, as kinky as me, and had very dirty minds. Guess the late Boomers and early Gen X'er women were the most liberated sexually due to the advent of the pill and the effects of the 60's.

When I first came to Thailand in the late 90's I was on my first trip, in fact, a little disappointed. I expected the gals to be far sluttier and PSE like based on my experience with women back home. They weren't. Even though many of the gals had been in the biz for a time, their skills, knowledge of their own anatomy, and the male anatomy were very limited. In addition, almost none were experimental, almost all were quite conservative, and kink, well forget about it. But the variety, ease, youthfulness, and low cost; that was the attraction. Where else on the planet could you find a reasonable looking gal, baby free, for 12 to 25 USD, and at the same time live in a city where you could have a 5 star life on a 2-3 star budget, with easy visas and no stress at all. Don't bother anyone and they won't bother you. It truly was a paradise. Sorry for the digression.

As the GoGo and FL scene begin to change after the '06 coup, the age of the oilies began in earnest. Barons opened before that, but it was not until Tulip came on the scene and spawned Mango and Snow White that we truly entered an era where you could find a pretty fine looking gal that really gave a performance worthy of those gals back home. They were youngish, many baby free, had amazing skills, and some truly seemed to enjoy the kink, filth, and ability they had to really send a man home with his knees shaking. I'd often walk into one of the three parlors and have a hard time deciding who I wanted to take. The anticipation was quite the buildup to the payoff.

Thailand is a very dynamic place. In my almost two decades of residence here I have seen more changes than in my home in the last 40 years. Physical changes yes, but also changes in attitudes amongst the people in general. I don't think we farang have ever really been liked here, however we were tolerated as a necessity and at times a curiosity. Now with the hordes of mainlanders we are unnecessary and an annoyance. The looks we get now when walking down the street, the changes in immigration law, etc. Changes in the P4 P industry have been vast as well. The influx of more and more non-western punters has not only effected price, but attitudes towards the job, and performance as well. This combined with Thailands more culturally conservative thrust over the past 5 years has really made the "scene" less desirable in all aspects. We cannot dismiss the effect connectivity has on the hobby worldwide as well.

So to make a short story long, what is left to us at the present is a choice: good looking youngish gals who are expensive and for the most part mediocre at best when it comes to performance, or old MILFs who know how to throw the kitty. And sports fans, for me neither is a great option. So perhaps it is time to move on. South America seems to hold some promise, and also offers residency and citizenships that are far easier to obtain than Thailand. Going to do some traveling myself.

I get your point. I'd be all over dirty-as-fuck PSE late teen or early 20's girls (if they existed). Alas, that is a very rare thing. I found a young crazy ass nympho in Cambodia back in 2006 that I still cannot get out of my head. She fucked me two days straight with minimal breaks to eat and sleep. Rare indeed.

Back in Thailand and current day, if I have to choose between youth and looks and age and experience (which, apparently, we have to choose between), it's an easy choice for me. I take the 40 year old who fucks like a beast over the 20 year old starfish who wants 5000 baht short-time because she's pretty. Been there, done that. Always disgusted with it. The MILFs rely on their skills, not their looks, to do a good job.

To each his own.

[Syzygies]

While it is true that Ying is a great performer, I did not move half way around the globe to partake with 40 year old MILFs. I want to look down after I finish and think, wow, not meh. I can get that at home, for free. And yes, for the most part, performance would be on par. I've never had an issue with performance, since my first GF when I was 15. In fact, almost all the gals back home I have dated, lived with, or been married to have been hornier than me, as kinky as me, and had very dirty minds. Guess the late Boomers and early Gen X'er women were the most liberated sexually due to the advent of the pill and the effects of the 60's.

When I first came to Thailand in the late 90's I was on my first trip, in fact, a little disappointed. I expected the gals to be far sluttier and PSE like based on my experience with women back home. They weren't.

Ha ha you were very fortunate to get it so good back home. Many of us did not and coming to Thailand was like Paradise in 1991. We then wanted to catch up on many years of missing out on great sex. To get young girls (10 years younger than myself or more) with fabulous bodies who could be passionate that night, and in the morning, and maybe some other bouts, was not something we all were used to. My ex wife was very unsuitable sexually.

Finally after all those years, I have a hot GF (milfy age now), that is horny nearly every night. I did have the odd GF back home that was that horny, but they never lasted, as were just too crazy to cope with. I always thought female high sex drive was correlated with overly crazy semi-psycho behaviour. Just had the wrong girls. When younger hot Asian girls were available back home, there had to be something wrong. Why were they available? Obviously I was not handsome enough to be the ideal catch.

There are huge numbers of milfy Thai girls wanting to meet the right Farang very badly. It is stacked in our favour here. Maybe not so many young hot Thai girls are desperate for a farang BF or husband though. It maybe the case when they don't have prospects of anything better, or sick of unreliable Thai guys. Strangely many of these girls wanting a Farang, can't speak English. ha ha. Does not seem to make good sense. My Mrs has weak English too. She never envisaged getting a Farang guy permanently. I just refused to go away. Ha ha.

[Goatscrot]

I first met Ying around 4 or 5 months ago. She was amazing and fucked the shit out of me. Made me cum 4 times (with pussy alone) in 2 hours. I haven't done that in more than 10 years so, obviously, I wanted to repeat with her. The 4 shot thing wasn't repeated (which I didn't expect) but I always have a great time with Ying. She's 40 years old, kind of pretty (or, in light of the majority of the girls at Tulip, bloody gorgeous in comparison), average Thai female height, weight in the low 50 kgs, from Chiang Mai, has minimal English (but surprises me sometimes with quotables like "Fuck me strong" or "Cum in my ass") is a beast in the sack, and is all the PSE you expect from Tulip.

I booked her for this afternoon and it was an awesome experience. In the shower, after soaping up my cock and ass, she wanted a "test run" and bent over. So I stuck it in, then and there. However, being rather tall and almost blind without my glasses, I put it in the wrong hole. She wasn't ready for that and it hurt with a declaration of "Jeb!" Dick out, she soaped up her asshole and said "Let's try again" and we did. Nice slippery, soapy, assfuck in the shower followed by a nice long blowjob. A2 M. Good stuff.

On the bed, I pleasured her the way she likes until she came. One good thing about repeating with a massage lady is that they know what you like and you know (if you care and I do) what they like. Reciprocal works for me.

She made cum twice today. Once in cowgirl and once with a sloppy long blowjob. She spit out the cum onto my dick and balls and then massaged them using my cum as lubricant until I was hard again and she got round 3 started. But time was almost up by then so a 2 shot day it was.

Great girl and always delivers. Couldn't give a higher recommendation.

While it is true that Ying is a great performer, I did not move half way around the globe to partake with 40 year old MILFs. I want to look down after I finish and think, wow, not meh. I can get that at home, for free. And yes, for the most part, performance would be on par. I've never had an issue with performance, since my first GF when I was 15. In fact, almost all the gals back home I have dated, lived with, or been married to have been hornier than me, as kinky as me, and had very dirty minds. Guess the late Boomers and early Gen X'er women were the most liberated sexually due to the advent of the pill and the effects of the 60's.

When I first came to Thailand in the late 90's I was on my first trip, in fact, a little disappointed. I expected the gals to be far sluttier and PSE like based on my experience with women back home. They weren't. Even though many of the gals had been in the biz for a time, their skills, knowledge of their own anatomy, and the male anatomy were very limited. In addition, almost none were experimental, almost all were quite conservative, and kink, well forget about it. But the variety, ease, youthfulness, and low cost; that was the attraction. Where else on the planet could you find a reasonable looking gal, baby free, for 12 to 25 USD, and at the same time live in a city where you could have a 5 star life on a 2-3 star budget, with easy visas and no stress at all. Don't bother anyone and they won't bother you. It truly was a paradise. Sorry for the digression.

As the GoGo and FL scene begin to change after the '06 coup, the age of the oilies began in earnest. Barons opened before that, but it was not until Tulip came on the scene and spawned Mango and Snow White that we truly entered an era where you could find a pretty fine looking gal that really gave a performance worthy of those gals back home. They were youngish, many baby free, had amazing skills, and some truly seemed to enjoy the kink, filth, and ability they had to really send a man home with his knees shaking. I'd often walk into one of the three parlors and have a hard time deciding who I wanted to take. The anticipation was quite the buildup to the payoff.

Thailand is a very dynamic place. In my almost two decades of residence here I have seen more changes than in my home in the last 40 years. Physical changes yes, but also changes in attitudes amongst the people in general. I don't think we farang have ever really been liked here, however we were tolerated as a necessity and at times a curiosity. Now with the hordes of mainlanders we are unnecessary and an annoyance. The looks we get now when walking down the street, the changes in immigration law, etc. Changes in the P4 P industry have been vast as well. The influx of more and more non-western punters has not only effected price, but attitudes towards the job, and performance as well. This combined with Thailands more culturally conservative thrust over the past 5 years has really made the "scene" less desirable in all aspects. We cannot dismiss the effect connectivity has on the hobby worldwide as well.

So to make a short story long, what is left to us at the present is a choice: good looking youngish gals who are expensive and for the most part mediocre at best when it comes to performance, or old MILFs who know how to throw the kitty. And sports fans, for me neither is a great option. So perhaps it is time to move on. South America seems to hold some promise, and also offers residency and citizenships that are far easier to obtain than Thailand. Going to do some traveling myself.

[Syzygies]

Assuming the girl is unfamiliar with the word "vasectomy", I just point to my crotch area at that point in the sentence and say the Thai word for it, something like "tha-man".

It is the word that comes up when you enter the word "vasectomy" in Google Translate to translate English to Thai. And you can tap the speaker icon to hear how it is said.

I understand the meaning of "tha-man" is closer to "sterile" in English, as though it is the result of an accident or a birth defect rather than an elective surgery. But the girls seem to quickly know what I mean and will usually smile and give me a big thumbs up about it.

Tham Man (or Thum Mun), Thum rhymes with Rum and Mun rhymes with Fun, means you have been "neutered" or castrated technically (since Thum is the verb to make or do something), not really born that way, I think. Mun by itself means sterile. Anyway I trust you are not using 'Man' pronounced in the English way (should be the German or Jamaican way), which has completely different meaning and girls would not understand.

A vasectomy in the dictionary is "Thum Mun Chaay" where Chaay just means the male type (of sterilisation).

Without the rising tone, Man / Mun means potato or pronoun for "it". Ha ha. So tones matter a lot in Thai. I still forget the right tone for words rarely used, including this one. I had to check the correct tone. The problem for Farangs is when we hear the word we may well understand, but the tone does not register enough to imprinted into the automatic memory.

"Thum mun laew" is best since that is past tense meaning vasectomy has already been done.

Or "Tham man laew" if your letter "A" is pronounced German style.

[Kuratla]

Great report. Did you manage to make Ying squirt? It doesn't work for me every time, but when it does, it's a real treat.

A working girl coming is nice, but they can fake it easily, and many do (can't blame them for that). However, that squirt Ying occasionally does, it's really memorable.

She squirted in anal cowgirl with me only the one time, back at her old apartment on soi 56 before she moved. Rare for her to squirt. It was a surprise, for sure.

[Crocodilexp]

I first met Ying around 4 or 5 months ago... On the bed, I pleasured her the way she likes until she came. One good thing about repeating with a massage lady is that they know what you like and you know (if you care and I do) what they like. Reciprocal works for me.

Great report. Did you manage to make Ying squirt? It doesn't work for me every time, but when it does, it's a real treat.

A working girl coming is nice, but they can fake it easily, and many do (can't blame them for that). However, that squirt Ying occasionally does, it's really memorable.

[Kuratla]

I first met Ying around 4 or 5 months ago. She was amazing and fucked the shit out of me. Made me cum 4 times (with pussy alone) in 2 hours. I haven't done that in more than 10 years so, obviously, I wanted to repeat with her. The 4 shot thing wasn't repeated (which I didn't expect) but I always have a great time with Ying. She's 40 years old, kind of pretty (or, in light of the majority of the girls at Tulip, bloody gorgeous in comparison), average Thai female height, weight in the low 50 kgs, from Chiang Mai, has minimal English (but surprises me sometimes with quotables like "Fuck me strong" or "Cum in my ass") is a beast in the sack, and is all the PSE you expect from Tulip.

I booked her for this afternoon and it was an awesome experience. In the shower, after soaping up my cock and ass, she wanted a "test run" and bent over. So I stuck it in, then and there. However, being rather tall and almost blind without my glasses, I put it in the wrong hole. She wasn't ready for that and it hurt with a declaration of "Jeb!" Dick out, she soaped up her asshole and said "Let's try again" and we did. Nice slippery, soapy, assfuck in the shower followed by a nice long blowjob. A2 M. Good stuff.

On the bed, I pleasured her the way she likes until she came. One good thing about repeating with a massage lady is that they know what you like and you know (if you care and I do) what they like. Reciprocal works for me.

She made cum twice today. Once in cowgirl and once with a sloppy long blowjob. She spit out the cum onto my dick and balls and then massaged them using my cum as lubricant until I was hard again and she got round 3 started. But time was almost up by then so a 2 shot day it was.

Great girl and always delivers. Couldn't give a higher recommendation.

[EihTooms]

I imagine free of pregnancy risk is a significant factor however I can't claim that:"Thum Mun laew". Mun rhymes with fun and run, and has to be rising tone to make sense, but means neutered, commonly used for dogs. Do you have an alternate phase? "saai naam asoojee dtut laew" might work (I just made that up never having a call for it before). That literally is my "sperm tube is cut already". Perhaps "tied" would be better?
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Assuming the girl is unfamiliar with the word "vasectomy", I just point to my crotch area at that point in the sentence and say the Thai word for it, something like "tha-man".

It is the word that comes up when you enter the word "vasectomy" in Google Translate to translate English to Thai. And you can tap the speaker icon to hear how it is said.

I understand the meaning of "tha-man" is closer to "sterile" in English, as though it is the result of an accident or a birth defect rather than an elective surgery. But the girls seem to quickly know what I mean and will usually smile and give me a big thumbs up about it.

[Syzygies]

It is good to have it on hand to show if necessary. But it is rarely necessary. Usually, I'll just say something like, "I've had the vasectomy surgery (saying the word in Thai) so I will not make you pregnant and I am clean and safe for you." Most of the time if there is any chance the girl would be up for BB with me, that is all she needs to hear.

I imagine free of pregnancy risk is a significant factor however I can't claim that:"Thum Mun laew". Mun rhymes with fun and run, and has to be rising tone to make sense, but means neutered, commonly used for dogs. Do you have an alternate phase? "saai naam asoojee dtut laew" might work (I just made that up never having a call for it before). That literally is my "sperm tube is cut already". Perhaps "tied" would be better?

Plenty of girls got pregnant despite supposedly taking the pill. I have managed not to get any girl pregnant.

A recent HIV test is not 100% proof, but lowers the odds hugely, given a guy is not going to get it easily other than by needles, transfusions, or cock up the ass, or more than one of those risks. So she sees no needle marks and assesses you are not gay.

I have no clues if many guys are fucking ladyboy ass bareback or receiving and how high are the risks. I hope they are mostly smart enough not to do that.

[EihTooms]

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I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.

It is good to have it on hand to show if necessary. But it is rarely necessary. Usually, I'll just say something like, "I've had the vasectomy surgery (saying the word in Thai) so I will not make you pregnant and I am clean and safe for you." Most of the time if there is any chance the girl would be up for BB with me, that is all she needs to hear.

Yeah, that last part is vague and cannot be known 100% by anyone. But I know that Thai girls are almost exclusively worried about HIV, despite the fact that they have likely never met an HIV positive customer or potential boyfriend. So if she says, "How do you know you're safe? You have so many ladies!", I've got a recent test result to show her. It doesn't work to overcome their fears every time, for sure. But it helps quite often. I might be the only punter they have ever met who can honestly say he's gotten a vasectomy AND has a recent HIV test result to show.

[Catire]

They are getting better educated. Firstly Gonorrhea and Chlamydia so easy to catch, but more importantly condom is extra protection against pregnancy. We all know what a high percentage of young Thai hookers (and non hookers too) got pregnant accidentally and no abortion. Girl also runs a significant risk of HIV, should the guy also happen to be a drug user. Hardly surprising many girls don't want a CIP.

I am not lecturing, I just state the obvious reasons why a girl does not want it. It adds a risk for sure.

I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.

Completely agree with Syzygies here, and as a guy who has sought out BBFS myself.

I NEVER blame the girl for saying no. It is a very serious occupational hazard in their occupation and if I were a working girl, everything penetrative outside of oral would be encased in rubber / latex.

I supposed this makes me a big hypocrite for seeking out something I myself would not provide if roles were reversed. But if my tool didn't have the issues it has with the latex. I'd be perfectly content wearing latex (as it's safer for me too). So I'm envious of the guys who have no issues fucking several times a day wearing a rubber- or even once a day several days in a row. My first time after say a week plus of non sexual contact is generally fine with a rubber. If anything it makes me last longer (though not nearly as intense, feeling wise) - but after that first time, subsequent encasings in latex are invitations to disasters, and frankly, no longer feel good anymore.