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[EihTooms]

Grew up coming on not coming in. All about being paranoid about getting gals preggers even though they claimed to be on the pill.

But would you or do you still pull out to cum on a girl if you know there is virtually no chance she would get pregnant if you came inside her?

[EihTooms]

So you bring up things totally irrelevant to be sarcastic, but its not that funny. Too much imagination.

The issue was whether the guy requires or expects a girl to swallow, or thinks its exciting some how, but she does not wish to, finding it to be foul stuff. Not at all irrelevant

No, my point was to refute your assertion that a man expecting or preferring a girl to swallow instead of spit at the end of a blowjob must be "Psycho", into degrading or victimizing the girl. I find that assessment to preposterous and silly.

[Syzygies]

That isn't even remotely the point. Of course she has the right to be a lousy sex partner, the right to vomit all over you when you engage in DFK, the right to pick her nose and eat a bogger she digs out of it. So what?

So you bring up things totally irrelevant to be sarcastic, but its not that funny. Too much imagination.

The issue was whether the guy requires or expects a girl to swallow, or thinks its exciting some how, but she does not wish to, finding it to be foul stuff. Not at all irrelevant

[EihTooms]

This reads really quite silly to me. If CIM, the girl surely has right to do what she wants with the cum, and I know that 90% plus will spit it out (probably an under estimate). If she surreptitiously spits it out so as not to be "nasty" to your mind, well and good. I don't care what she does with it. I am no longer its owner. In fact The girl has every right to decide what she drinks, and most girls, find the thought of drinking cum to be quite disgusting, in my experience. Of course only a percentage were happy to take CIM anyway. Some girls find the thought of CIM to be disgusting already. I won't argue with them. I also would not wish to drink it. I met very few girls indeed that ever drank it. Even my old regular Tulip girl did not swallow and she said she would never do so for any customer. One guy wrote triumphantly that she swallowed, but she did not, merely got rid of it when he was not looking.

One girl told me the taste of Cum can vary a lot some okay and some quite horrible. Not sure if relates to guy's diet, age or smoking, or what.

One can't compare to DATY at all, since girls generally do not spurt any such liquid. Okay Some girls do become a lot wetter at orgasm, but it is still not similar. I have wiped my mouth after DATY of occasion or even had to spit, but not common.

Some girls, fortunately rare, refuse to kiss after DATY has occurred, as though they consider their own pussy to have something disgusting. One girl I know used to take CIM but after getting braces does not like to take CIM any more. I guess too hard to clean up with braces.

In men's mags, I rarely read the porn stories. Really only the pics mattered. The stories were as silly as porn movies, O.K. maybe not that silly. Any unromantic bits could be omitted like spitting of CUM.

One ex GF suggested we indulge in telephone sex when apart. Sorry its not the same as real sex (I certainly would not pay for it), and reading stories is even less appealing to me.

I'm not sure why you bring up what a girl has the right to do with the cum. That isn't even remotely the point. Of course she has the right to be a lousy sex partner, the right to vomit all over you when you engage in DFK, the right to pick her nose and eat a booger she digs out of it. So what?

The paperback book porn from Olympia Press I was referring to is not the same as the junk you found written in most girlie or porn magazines back then.

[Syzygies]

Spitting those kinds of body fluids out instead of simply quickly and efficiently swallowing the teaspoon or maximum tablespoonful of liquid produced by both men and women is a nasty, sad, insulting and revolting finish to what is supposed to be an act of willing acceptance of the natural product of your partner's sexual excitement. IMO, spitting at the end of an act of oral sex that is meant to finish orally is only about a half step away from vomiting in terms of a turn off.

This reads really quite silly to me. If CIM, the girl surely has right to do what she wants with the cum, and I know that 90% plus will spit it out (probably an under estimate). If she surreptitiously spits it out so as not to be "nasty" to your mind, well and good. I don't care what she does with it. I am no longer its owner. In fact The girl has every right to decide what she drinks, and most girls, find the thought of drinking cum to be quite disgusting, in my experience. Of course only a percentage were happy to take CIM anyway. Some girls find the thought of CIM to be disgusting already. I won't argue with them. I also would not wish to drink it. I met very few girls indeed that ever drank it. Even my old regular Tulip girl did not swallow and she said she would never do so for any customer. One guy wrote triumphantly that she swallowed, but she did not, merely got rid of it when he was not looking.

One girl told me the taste of Cum can vary a lot some okay and some quite horrible. Not sure if relates to guy's diet, age or smoking, or what.

One can't compare to DATY at all, since girls generally do not spurt any such liquid. Okay Some girls do become a lot wetter at orgasm, but it is still not similar. I have wiped my mouth after DATY of occasion or even had to spit, but not common.

Some girls, fortunately rare, refuse to kiss after DATY has occurred, as though they consider their own pussy to have something disgusting. One girl I know used to take CIM but after getting braces does not like to take CIM any more. I guess too hard to clean up with braces.

In men's mags, I rarely read the porn stories. Really only the pics mattered. The stories were as silly as porn movies, O.K. maybe not that silly. Any unromantic bits could be omitted like spitting of CUM.

One ex GF suggested we indulge in telephone sex when apart. Sorry its not the same as real sex (I certainly would not pay for it), and reading stories is even less appealing to me.

[Goatscrot]

Back in the pre-Internet days, before and during the era of home video, when porn shops were where we got our erotic materials, there was usually a section of the shop devoted to paperback books with sexy stories. Might be hard to believe now, but some of us guys actually read erotic literature as well as looked at girlie magazines and hardcore porn magazines. And many of those books were damn sexy, too.

The sex "scenes" as depicted in the stories did not require the characters to pull out in order to show the "money shot", to prove that an ejaculation actually did occur and so on as was the case with the models in the pictorials and, later, the actors in video tape/dvds. When a girl finished a blowjob in a written erotic story, she didn't have to spit out the cum into her hand or whatever in order to prove he really came in her mouth. The story's author simply wrote the ending the way a blowjob meant to finish orally would happen in real life. And I'm not talking about bizarre extreme sex stories. Just normal ones.

In no case did I ever read a depiction of oral sex, a blowjob or cunnilingus, meant to finish orally instead of on the girls boobs or whatever conclude with anything remotely like, "and then she lovingly and discretely spit out his cum into a tissue." Nor did I ever read anything like, "as her squeals of delight from his licking her pussy subsided, he leaned judiciously to the left and spit out her vaginal lubrication into a towel." No more than I would have expected to read a passage of two lovers engaged in DFK taking turns spitting each other's saliva into a hankie between kisses.

I never read such a thing at the end of a normal act of oral sex as depicted in an erotic novel. Not once.

Either the international writers of those hundreds if not thousands of erotic novels assumed all of their readers were "Psycho" enough to demand the poor degraded girl in the story be victimized by having to actually finish a blowjob by swallowing the cum instead of spitting it out or they logically assumed that was the way almost every man on the planet would expect their oral sex fantasy to end. I'm going to side with the latter.

We're not exactly talking about the kind of "body waste" that one typically flushes down a toilet three hours after eating a medium pepperoni pizza and a drinking a six pack of beer. We're talking about natural body fluids that are, if anything, meant to be healthy enough to consume or absorb into our bodies one way or another anyway.

Spitting those kinds of body fluids out instead of simply quickly and efficiently swallowing the teaspoon or maximum tablespoonful of liquid produced by both men and women is a nasty, sad, insulting and revolting finish to what is supposed to be an act of willing acceptance of the natural product of your partner's sexual excitement. IMO, spitting at the end of an act of oral sex that is meant to finish orally is only about a half step away from vomiting in terms of a turn off.

Grew up coming on not coming in. All about being paranoid about getting gals preggers even though they claimed to be on the pill.

[Bouvis]

Could not agree more. Vomit? Horrifying.

After seeing what these girls eat on a daily basis, this form of play is definitely a required taste.

Money will get you anything in this place.

Pass.

[EihTooms]

Ha ha. Glad to see at least one guy agrees with my sentiments, except maybe you put it very nicely. Can't work out how degrading ugly stuff is a turn on, but maybe something about dominating and degrading a slave.

Cum liquid is really just a messy thing that smells bad and probably tastes bad. I never need to see what happens to it. No excitement coming from that at all. Why guys need girls to swallow, or make a mess on their face etc. , is just a bit "Psycho" to my thinking. It seems to have an element of forcing someone to do something revolting, and showing a high lack of respect for the "victim". One would not wish to shit on a girl's face, right? So is cum immensely more desirable?

Back in the pre-Internet days, before and during the era of home video, when porn shops were where we got our erotic materials, there was usually a section of the shop devoted to paperback books with sexy stories. Might be hard to believe now, but some of us guys actually read erotic literature as well as looked at girlie magazines and hardcore porn magazines. And many of those books were damn sexy, too.

The sex "scenes" as depicted in the stories did not require the characters to pull out in order to show the "money shot", to prove that an ejaculation actually did occur and so on as was the case with the models in the pictorials and, later, the actors in video tape/dvds. When a girl finished a blowjob in a written erotic story, she didn't have to spit out the cum into her hand or whatever in order to prove he really came in her mouth. The story's author simply wrote the ending the way a blowjob meant to finish orally would happen in real life. And I'm not talking about bizarre extreme sex stories. Just normal ones.

In no case did I ever read a depiction of oral sex, a blowjob or cunnilingus, meant to finish orally instead of on the girls boobs or whatever conclude with anything remotely like, "and then she lovingly and discretely spit out his cum into a tissue." Nor did I ever read anything like, "as her squeals of delight from his licking her pussy subsided, he leaned judiciously to the left and spit out her vaginal lubrication into a towel." No more than I would have expected to read a passage of two lovers engaged in DFK taking turns spitting each other's saliva into a hankie between kisses.

I never read such a thing at the end of a normal act of oral sex as depicted in an erotic novel. Not once.

Either the international writers of those hundreds if not thousands of erotic novels assumed all of their readers were "Psycho" enough to demand the poor degraded girl in the story be victimized by having to actually finish a blowjob by swallowing the cum instead of spitting it out or they logically assumed that was the way almost every man on the planet would expect their oral sex fantasy to end. I'm going to side with the latter.

We're not exactly talking about the kind of "body waste" that one typically flushes down a toilet three hours after eating a medium pepperoni pizza and a drinking a six pack of beer. We're talking about natural body fluids that are, if anything, meant to be healthy enough to consume or absorb into our bodies one way or another anyway.

Spitting those kinds of body fluids out instead of simply quickly and efficiently swallowing the teaspoon or maximum tablespoonful of liquid produced by both men and women is a nasty, sad, insulting and revolting finish to what is supposed to be an act of willing acceptance of the natural product of your partner's sexual excitement. IMO, spitting at the end of an act of oral sex that is meant to finish orally is only about a half step away from vomiting in terms of a turn off.

[Goatscrot]

I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.

Could not agree more. Vomit? Horrifying.

[Franciscass]

Totally agree with you, some guys are too fucked up mentally to be normal.

While expecting PSE at a place like tulip is probably normal, but gagging and making vomit is just gross.

Sick minds I say.

Somebody once said the only sexual perversion is chastity. There is a subset who enjoy [CodeWord100], [CodeWord118], S-M, bondage, fisting whatever else your imagination can dream up and for me while not my style that's perfectly fine as long as it's between consenting adults.

What I find offensive about the post we are talking about is the girl was vomiting up her dinner while he was facefucking her and while It appears there was no coercion involved it had to be uncomfortable for her to the point of being painful.

One could argue she could have stopped it and yes she could but I feel she was more concerned that her job as a Tulip worker required her to give the customer what he wanted and paid for and consequently she was taken advantage of. In no way can I believe she was truly a consenting participant.

[Paolo99]

maybe something about dominating and degrading a slave.

No excitement coming from that at all. Why guys need girls to swallow, or make a mess on their face etc. , is just a bit "Psycho" to my thinking. It seems to have an element of forcing someone to do something revolting, and showing a high lack of respect for the "victim".

Some girls like it when the guy cums on her face, or some others like to swallow also. It's not only trying to force them doing this or make her a slave. In the oilies they might not like it because the guy is just a customer. But with the FLs, when there is some kind of relation that establishes they might enjoy it.

It's all psychological. It's like a guy that likes to eat a girl's ass, girls doesn't like it that much, it doesn't bring anything special to the guy that does it except some psychological excitement.

[Syzygies]

Interesting that several guys go to Tulip to live out scenes that are clearly inspired by watching pornography. This thread often has guys asking about services that are straight out of modern porn which to my mind is often less than erotic.

Ha ha. Glad to see at least one guy agrees with my sentiments, except maybe you put it very nicely. Can't work out how degrading ugly stuff is a turn on, but maybe something about dominating and degrading a slave.

Cum liquid is really just a messy thing that smells bad and probably tastes bad. I never need to see what happens to it. No excitement coming from that at all. Why guys need girls to swallow, or make a mess on their face etc. , is just a bit "Psycho" to my thinking. It seems to have an element of forcing someone to do something revolting, and showing a high lack of respect for the "victim". One would not wish to shit on a girl's face, right? So is cum immensely more desirable?

[AssLover945]

I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.

Totally agree with you, some guys are too fucked up mentally to be normal.

While expecting PSE at a place like tulip is probably normal, but gagging and making vomit is just gross.

Sick minds I say.

[Franciscass]

Yeah, me too.

Seems to be a gonzo porn enactment which is not for me at all. Gagging, face fucking and vomit does not do it for me (maybe the details are exaggerated or lost in translation somewhat).

Interesting that several guys go to Tulip to live out scenes that are clearly inspired by watching pornography. This thread often has guys asking about services that are straight out of modern porn which to my mind is often less than erotic.

I get it, what's goes on between consenting adults is their business but continuing to face fuck a girl who is vomiting up her dinner well I don't understand how that can be pleasurable. That said it seems there are some folks who do so as they say it is what it is.

[Stykler]

I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.

Ditto for me as well. Not sure if this was the usual ISG embellishment that goes on, but if it wasn't I am not too sure what pleasure could be derived from it. Each to their own I suppose.