Sociological Observations on Thailand

**Fon Tok** · 08-14-09 03:25

Originally Posted by Tansak KTV

You got no idea what you are talking about. Stick to taking your voyeur long distance pictures of girls and ladyboys walking down the street.

Ah, so that was you with the ladyboy. No wonder you were walking funny.

**Member #3428** · 08-14-09 02:26

Originally Posted by Fon Tok

You don't know much about America do you? I lived in a number of rural and urban communities over the past 30+ years. I'm afraid what once was is no longer.

You got no idea what you are talking about. Stick to taking your voyeur long distance pictures of girls and ladyboys walking down the street.

But I'd rather ride my bicycle in Isaan then in America that's a given fact.

**Fon Tok** · 08-13-09 15:57

Originally Posted by Tansak KTV

Generalizations.... Get out of the cities and people are very different. In every part of the world including America (and I'm not American).

You don't know much about America do you? I lived in a number of rural and urban communities over the past 30+ years. I'm afraid what once was is no longer.

When I now return to the states on visits from Thailand I often ride my motorcycle for thousands of miles at a time. Entire rural communities in states like Arizona, Montana, Idaho and Washington are ravaged by methamphetamine abuse, land speculation, or lack of an economy. The only growth industries in many places are prisons. People are scared. And they generally don't take kindly to strangers! Generalization...sure, but that's the way it is.

I'd take a road trip in the Thai countryside any day over one in America (and I am American). In fact, I just took one today...it sure was green!

**PinkPearl** · 08-12-09 22:50

"Out of familial gratitude, many daughters of poor farmers entered the sex trade to support their families. Many are severely exploited. Many have died from work-related sicknesses. But some, too, found love and security through marrying foreigners. They set up families and started doing business, as all couples do. We should be happy for them, shouldn't we? Why should we harass them with this proxy land ownership fervour?"

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/o...ign-scapegoats

**Member #3428** · 08-04-09 09:17

Originally Posted by Fon Tok

I agree with you. I spent a few weeks in America each year and people there have lost their sense of gratitude for just about any act of generosity. My experience in Thailand has been that for the little bit it costs to be jai dee you usually get a lot in return (along with a wai and a smile).

Generalizations....

Get out of the cities and people are very different. In every part of the world including America (and I'm not American).

The difference is the cost of being Jai Dee is less in SEA then in other parts of the world.

**Fon Tok** · 08-04-09 09:04

Originally Posted by Lifeingr

Well, my point on the ATM was metaphorical...So I don't mind to see me as "ATM". I know how much and on what I'll spend and I can make my choices and receive a very good service always with a smile...

I agree with you. I spent a few weeks in America each year and people there have lost their sense of gratitude for just about any act of generosity. My experience in Thailand has been that for the little bit it costs to be jai dee you usually get a lot in return (along with a wai and a smile).

**PinkPearl** · 08-03-09 20:24

Originally Posted by Tiger 888

The look at us as an ATM. So let's be the ATM, look at them as a customer, act like an ATM and swallow the card.
Or what about a: Your account doesn't have enough balance?
I will one day print a T-shirt: "Walking ATM on holiday, service suspended, please try another Farang nearby".

Unfortunately very fews Thais would understand that, even amongst those
in BKK who know some English.

But time is money, so i should go read a post with a report in it

**Jeff46** · 08-03-09 19:10

Originally Posted by Lifeingr

Well, my point on the ATM was metaphorical, I hope it was clear. I also talk about long time and not tourist short time. Maybe I am quite new here (leave in Thailand only 8 months) but so far if I compare the quality/price ratio in Thailand for most services (including but not limited to pussy) and products with other countries I've lived then the ratio is amazing and I get everything with a smile.

To make my point more clear. I was living in a European country for 3 years. I don't mention name because I don't want to start a debate over the specific country. I was a consumer there and the price/quality ratio was normal to high for a European country BUT the attitude of most (90%+) "sellers" was HORRIBLE! You had a feeling that they make you a favor by "allowing" you being in their place (restaurant, hotel, shop, theater etc.) and buy something from there. Anytime I had to go for shopping was a nightmare. Non helpful staff, arrogant managers, long lines for everything, bad service, high prices and not a single smile!

In Thailand it is the contrary. So I don't mind to see me as "ATM". I know how much and on what I'll spend and I can make my choices and receive a very good service always with a smile.

I hope the point is more clear now.

Yes 8 months in Thailand you are a virgin. Thailand is the most friendly country/people in the world. Always smiling to you. Apparently they do not catch you yet. You not involve in gf or real business. Till today you see only the nice face. May be. Who knows you never will see behind the curtain. But at least once you have girl friend or similar the ATM machine story start. You have here at ISG all info about it. Do not let get you. Good luck and take care. Be carefull of the killing smile!

**Lifeingr** · 08-03-09 17:19

Well, my point on the ATM was metaphorical, I hope it was clear. I also talk about long time and not tourist short time. Maybe I am quite new here (leave in Thailand only 8 months) but so far if I compare the quality/price ratio in Thailand for most services (including but not limited to pussy) and products with other countries I've lived then the ratio is amazing and I get everything with a smile.

To make my point more clear. I was living in a European country for 3 years. I don't mention name because I don't want to start a debate over the specific country. I was a consumer there and the price/quality ratio was normal to high for a European country BUT the attitude of most (90%+) "sellers" was HORRIBLE! You had a feeling that they make you a favor by "allowing" you being in their place (restaurant, hotel, shop, theater etc.) and buy something from there. Anytime I had to go for shopping was a nightmare. Non helpful staff, arrogant managers, long lines for everything, bad service, high prices and not a single smile!

In Thailand it is the contrary. So I don't mind to see me as "ATM". I know how much and on what I'll spend and I can make my choices and receive a very good service always with a smile.

I hope the point is more clear now.

**LittleBigMan** · 08-03-09 15:52

Tiger888,

I got one going already! currently working on it. A cartoon picture of a ATM, Screen says Empty in English. Below the ATM, it says Empty, and up to you in Thai. Wanted to keep it simple!

LBM

**Member #3428** · 08-03-09 13:18

Originally Posted by Tiger 888

The look at us as an ATM. So let's be the ATM, look at them as a customer, act like an ATM and swallow the card.

I will one day print a T-shirt: "Walking ATM on holiday, service suspended, please try another Farang nearby".

I thought LBM was opening the T shirt shops.

**Tiger 888** · 08-03-09 13:16

Originally Posted by LittleBigMan

Lifeingr,

Your view on ATM, is short term, when you are in Thailand ATM means to many of us Long Time... you don't just buy pussy, you buy cattle, elephants, apartments, houses, cars not only for your girl but her family even the 5th cousins. See the difference!

LBM

The look at us as an ATM. So let's be the ATM, look at them as a customer, act like an ATM and swallow the card.
Or what about a: Your account doesn't have enough balance?
I will one day print a T-shirt: "Walking ATM on holiday, service suspended, please try another Farang nearby".

**LittleBigMan** · 08-03-09 12:15

Lifeingr,

Your view on ATM, is short term, when you are in Thailand ATM means to many of us Long Time... you don't just buy pussy, you buy cattle, elephants, apartments, houses, cars not only for your girl but her family even the 5th cousins. See the difference!

LBM

**ManonsanBoy** · 08-02-09 19:29

Give generously

**Lifeingr** · 08-02-09 19:23

Originally Posted by Jeff46

What shansawy want to say is the thai look us. Farang as atm machine. Not as human other country at least do not fake theier feeling. Thais are number 1 in fake feeling. Sometime I like to bomb them.

I come from an industrialized (1st world) country and I've lived for many years in other industrialized countries. Everywhere, any "service or product provider" will look at the customer (and especially the foreigner customer) as an ATM! So, why Thais or other people from developing countries should look at the customers as "an old friend". And i have also to say that in many "1st world" countries (especially in many European countries) they look you as an ATM (of course they will never admit it) and they behave to you like shit! There is no quality of service although you could pay a fortune. So I prefer to be an ATM that it is taken care of and receive the proper service than to be an ATM that it is just sucked off and everybody will spit on it!

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