Quincas in Brazil

[Quincas]

Closing/moving VM would be much more serious than closing Help. What a nightmare...

I don't think that will happen. VM isn't that close to Maracana. VM is tucked away a bit hidden. It doesn't disturb nobody.

For the record, I think that you're right, Sperto. I bring this up because it's a topic that's being bandied about lately by Brazilian mongers. Some of those guys are speculating whether or not VM will be affected by the whole "clean up Rio" buzz.

[Exec Talent]

I have no idea if Quincas and Macunaima is the same guy. I don't think so, even though both have alias identical with book titles. I really can't see any similarities in their ways of writing.

Macunaima was very critical against the whole mongering scene. Still I thought his postings were interesting reading.

We (as in members of this forum) made a decision awhile ago to keep it real. At that time, Macunaima was banished to his own thread because he insisted on attempting to dominate every thread here with hypotheticals.

This forum is for doers. Not academics who are allegedly "studying" what doers do. After Macunaima left here he went to another forum and did exactly the same thing he had done at ISG. The only reason he is back here is because he was asked to leave the other forum.

No one is saying he should not be able to post. He can. There is a thread titled Macunaima in Brazil. It was setup for a reason. It was setup especially for him so that he could not derail and attempt to dominate other threads. Let’s not forget it was setup for a reason.

[Sperto]

Vila Mimosa is relatively close to Maracanã which, as Hughdad points out, will be closing down soon for World's Cup-related renovation (folks forget the World's Cup will also be here in 2014).

Closing/moving VM would be much more serious than closing Help. What a nightmare...

I don't think that will happen. VM isn't that close to Maracana. VM is tucked away a bit hidden. It doesn't disturb nobody.

[Sperto]

Quincas is Macunamia's alter ego. This guy brings nothing but long paragraphs that will put you sleep.

I have no idea if Quincas and Macunaima is the same guy. I don't think so, even though both have alias identical with book titles. I really can't see any similarities in their ways of writing.

Macunaima was very critical against the whole mongering scene. Still I thought his postings were interesting reading.

[Quincas]

Quincas is Macunamia's alter ego. This guy brings nothing but long paragraphs that will put you sleep.

You are obsessed.

[Quincas]

Prove they dont.

Prove a negative?

[Quincas]

Yes, can't we just let boring dogs lie (preferably in their own thread).

Nothing is more boring than constant flames and fighting. Perhaps flamers and "more-monger-than-thou" fanboys should have their own thread, what?

[Quincas]

Well, here's a monger-related Olympic tidbit to ponder...

Vila Mimosa is relatively close to Maracanã which, as Hughdad points out, will be closing down soon for World's Cup-related renovation (folks forget the World's Cup will also be here in 2014).

So will the "clean up the Maracanã region" affect Vila Mimosa? If they push the Vila out, this will be the third time it will have had to move. And where would it move to?

[Exec Talent]

If you all Rio-experts stop flaming Quincas, I'm sure he has a lot to contribute. He propably has a lot more knowledge of Rio than many other contributors in the Brazil section.

Yes, can't we just let boring dogs lie (preferably in their own thread).

[Sperto]

If you all Rio-experts stop flaming Quincas, I'm sure he has a lot to contribute. He propably has a lot more knowledge of Rio than many other contributors in the Brazil section.

[Eros74]

According to your profile, you have only been a member since October 2 - 16 days; accordingly, how do you know Exec Talent has been "ranting" for years about Rio Joe's book?

The Watcher, you are really more than clever and smart....

First how did you answer to me and now how did you catch Quincas is a troll he surely has another nickname.

Yes definetely, you watch very well

[Quincas]

According to your profile, you have only been a member since October 2 - 16 days; accordingly, how do you know Exec Talent has been "ranting" for years about Rio Joe's book?

As Poucolouco points out, there's this nifty little thing called a "search" function. You can catch Exec Talent bitching about Joe's writing back in 2007, right on this very site, by following this link (it took me all of five minutes to find this, btw):

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...1&page=5&pp=15

Apparently, Exec Talent's main beef with Joe is twofold:

1) He doesn't like Joe's writing style.

2) He's offended that someone dare make a comment about RdJ that he himself has not rubber-stamped as "approved". Joe says, for example, that L'Uomo is in a shopping center, something which at least a dozen people here have said and which the termas itself claims on their own website. This isn't a nit in Exec's eyes: it's a damning condemnation of Joe's entire book.

I mean, think about it: Joe's book is complete trash, according to Exec. And yet the most damning example that springs to his mind, while writing his review, are two nits: Joe claims L'Uomo is in a shopping center and that it has a garish sign. And when called out on these two points, he doesn't offer up a list of Joe's supposedly multiple grave errors regarding Rio: he bitches about Joe making money off of selling information to mongers - something which he himself believes is a good and valuable thing. And then he claims that this is an "unbiased opinion" when, in fact, anyone who can use a search button can find Exec Talent trashing on Joe Diamind years before the book came out.

I have no problems with Exec having a point of view that says that Joe Diamond is shit. What bothers me is that he seems to have a personal axe to grind with any opinion that comes from someone he doesn't like - even if it's identical to his own. He flames people simply for stating their mind and he engages in on-line crusades to keep the internet "pure" from people he doesn't like.

Exec Talent is a man of many opinions, some of which I agree with and some which I don't, all of which are very strongly held. What I find upsetting is that he seems to think that he is the only person who has the right to an opinion.

Let me ask you this, Watcher: can you find one single disagreement which Exec Talent has ever engaged in which he hasn't very quickly devolved into name-calling and flaming, almost always at the insitigation of Exec Talent? Either here or anywhere else, for that matter...?

Note that I sincerely do not mean this to be a flame againt Exec. I think he contributes an awful lot of good shit. I also think he takes himself far too seriously as the self-appointed guardian of what is truly valuable and what is not in the mongering world and I wish he'd just relax a bit.

It takes all kinds to keep a community like this interesting and vital and that's a fact that Exec Talent frequently loses track of.

[The Watcher]

It should also be noted that he was ranting about Joe's book years before the damned thing was even published, so I doubt he's unbiased in the information he gives out.

According to your profile, you have only been a member since October 2 - 16 days; accordingly, how do you know Exec Talent has been "ranting" for years about Rio Joe's book?

[Quincas]

This may be deemed an act of war between drug gangs and police. In a country like Brazil that had a very recent "junta" past, such violence will give birth to a "shadow" police squad to control the violence. I believe such crime will generate a right-wing government in the next presidency that will support a war on Rio gangs to protect tourism.

Since when is 25 years ago "very recent", Jamaicanceo?

And "will give birth"? Read "Rota 66" by Caco Barcelos or, hell, just watch the recent film "Tropa de Elite" ("Elit Squad", I believe, in English). We've had death squads in this city for close to 50 years now and they don't need to be "shadow" at all because the populace and the powers that be largely support them.

[Ryjerrob]

Exec Talent, it also must be admitted, has a decided talent for flaming anyone whose opinion he doesn't like.

It should also be noted that he was ranting about Joe's book years before the damned thing was even published, so I doubt he's unbiased in the information he gives out.

You've been a registered member for all of 16 days.

Consider yourself flamed!

Ryjer