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[Member #4351]

Seeing what goes on in Haiti and in parts of Africa as it relates to "charitable" organizations have made me decide to NEVER donate to any international charity organization. I know that sounds harsh, but I know I could better "distribute" my donation in person than to allow some NGO exec to live it up on my dime.

If there is an upside to the worldwide economic crisis, its that hopefully donations to these parasites will dry up and they will have to get a real job.

[BionicMan]

I'm interested in visiting Haiti later in September and am interested in staying at BigBear's place if possible. Does anyone know how I can get in touch with him? Please let me know and thanks.

Maybe by PM?

[Taiwan Laowai]

I'm interested in visiting Haiti later in September and am interested in staying at BigBear's place if possible. Does anyone know how I can get in touch with him? Please let me know and thanks.

[Jiggydus]

I'm seriously considering going to Haiti. Is there any nightlife in this country? Are local girls easy to meet?

Night Clubs.

Jet Set: no cover charge; went between 11PM and 1AM Friday and Saturday; mostly couples and some non-pros mixed in amongst other semi-pros / pros (hard to tell difference but pros were either forward-less attractive ones-or coy until after dancing when discussion of leaving club for 'home' also involved outrageous monetary request) ; many of the more attractive ladies were already spoken for, but for the adventurous at heart, might be possible to pull one from her current guy (thread lightly in this area as I observed a few guys picking up handguns they had to check and lock up prior to entering Barak, the next night club seemingly most people from Jet Set migrated to. Also did not observe same level of entry security screening at Jet Set as in place at Barak) ; dance floor was packed as DJ played a good mix of house music; adequate ventilation for non-smokers to breath amongst the many smokers; Sunday Jet Set is quite a dead set.

Barak: cover charge of 250GDE (sign says $50 so when listed like so you must multiply that figure by 5) ; arrived shortly after 1AM and it started to pick up shortly after that time; again mostly couples but quite a few more non-pros and semi-pros; the non-pros were easier to pick out as they dressed a bit differently than the semi-pros and the semi-pros danced solo quite provocatively; mix of music was house and Haitian.

SAX: this is actually a DR-staffed strip club and not a night club per se. Never observed full on show, but this place does have a "bar fine" if you desire to take any lady "home" with you. I did not as I was in Haiti to bang Haitians, not Dominicans.

There is also a night club that is on street just around the corner from SAX. I don't know the name but on the Tuesday night I went, it was the place to be as Jet Set and Barack were dead. Most of the club is open air and only the bar was covered. There was no cover as I recall and the drink prices were reasonable. All of Haiti seemed to be up in this club, especially the NGO's and UN cats. There was a live reggae band playing that night. I hooked up with a nice girl in the crowd. Girls are available, but I will say the NGO execs (who are flush with cash) and the UN ballers are indeed driving up the prices. Seeing what goes on in Haiti and in parts of Africa as it relates to "charitable" organizations have made me decide to NEVER donate to any international charity organization. I know that sounds harsh, but I know I could better "distribute" my donation in person than to allow some NGO exec to live it up on my dime.

[Illini333]

I'm seriously considering going to Haiti. Is there any nightlife in this country? Are local girls easy to meet?

[Cunning Linguist]

Now that the truth is coming out about the inept NGOs in Haiti, most of whom do little or nothing except live off the donations of well-meaning suckers, it seems that they are gunning for BadBear again who unfortunately is an easy target for these hypocrites. This is unfortunate in that he probably has done more to help Haitians than these NGO parasites that drive around in their new 4WDs, stay in expensive hotels, eat in the best restaurants and turn out stacks of useless reports. So we will probably not be seeing anymore posts from him.

David 33 is right on. When I was in Haiti last month, I could see first hand how useless they are. They are good only for the supermarkets for foreigners (stocked with goods imported from the US, little from Haiti itself) and, worst of all, they have pushed up the price of the girls. I think that half the restaurants would go out of business if they went. Maybe 90. Badbear did not mention to me that he would no longer post anything but he is being vary wary. It was the biggest of mistakes to argue with a website which a lot of NGOs and Duvalier-loving type people groove on. However, Haiti is definitely screwed in every sense. A ridiculous clown of a president elected by a meager percentage of the voters at large, an insane opposition that does nothing, a do-nothing let-them-eat-cake rich elite, and a largely illiterate population still devastated by the earthquake and you have a very f*ked up country. It is so sad.

A big shoutout to David 33 from CL, still in China, happily partaking of Chinese girls' unmentionables available in wholesale quantity at wholesale prices.

[IKnowKevin]

I am planing on stopping in Haiti and DR on the way to Columbia. Any recomendations on where to stay in Haiti? Also, anyone know a casino with texas holdem tables? Any recomendations on the best places to meet quality girls?

[Bottom Feeder]

Any idea how to contact BB?

I had a great time when I went there last year. One thing that was a lot of fun is that we went to a little town north of BB's "Bed and breakfast" and visited some bars and dance halls. I laughed my guts out when BB talked up the bar girls! I had a fun fun GF there that thanks to BB. What a revelation as to the NGOs. What creeps! F them! It was kinda fun to see the UN Jeeps with mounted 50 Cal machine guns. A local told me that they weren't necessary and were just there to make someone rich.

PP is richer because of BB.

BF.

PS. Whats the best way to bone up on creole? And do you know the name of the town North of BB's old place? It was an Industrial port town with all the seedy fun they normally have about 1 hr up the coast.

[Member #4351]

Now that the truth is coming out about the inept NGOs in Haiti, most of whom do little or nothing except live off the donations of well-meaning suckers, it seems that they are gunning for BadBear again who unfortunately is an easy target for these hypocrites. This is unfortunate in that he probably has done more to help Haitians than these NGO parasites that drive around in their new 4WDs, stay in expensive hotels, eat in the best restaurants and turn out stacks of useless reports. So we will probably not be seeing anymore posts from him.

[Jack Burton]

PS: If any of my old friends see me doing something, I want you to point it out to me. That does not mean I will not do the stupid thing of which you are warning but at least I have been warned.

Good Day

Bad Bear: How do I kill a post about you? Read most of the Haitian threads and found your last post 23 December and assumed that something happened shortly after, due to a very negative story on haiti-"truth". Glad to know you're still kicking.

On spoiling women: anyone who spends 20 minutes reading any intelligent monger or pickup artist site knows that spoiling women is stupid and just gets you nothing and your allies. Other mongers and wingmen disgusted and pissed off. Now, it did take me two marriages and divorces to figure this out. About women I was a slow learner. But thanks to the kindness of folks on the internet, I now know my destiny is to enjoy life, women, work, and everything the world has to offer.

[Eatin Beaver]

That is for sure. Man, if I hear "Mine's different" one more time, I think I'm going to just bitchslap them.

Is success in these relationships possible? YES. Is it probable? NO.

The best chance of success is if you live in her country. If you are traveling back and forth a few times a year, your chances go way, way down.

Is age or race a factor? You bet, but again, much less so if you live in country.

And I hate to say this, but BB is right. Giving them money equal, or a little better, than they normally would have is OK. If she can quit her job and live on it though, you are asking for trouble. Idle people find ways to get into trouble. If you spoil her above and beyond her normal means, then you are asking for trouble. If you feel the need to have to lavish her with money to keep her, you're barking up the wrong tree.

Most ex-pats I know who have married and live in country are pretty happy and the relationships seem to last. 99% of the part-timers who have "fallen in love" and brought them back have ended badly. I DO know one Cuban girl who has been very happily living in Toronto with her husband for 8 years now. That's the only one I know.

How do I know this? Personal experience? Nope, but I have seen this scenario countless times all over the place.

Anyway,"mine's different". HAHAHA

Where did you hear that one before?

You are right on Matey.

Iv'e seen it so many times in so many different countries.

But it's never happened to me. Maybe because' I don't have any money to spoil them little hornies,

I never spoil 'them. Because I'm because I can't No Money but still get lotsa honey.

I guess they just like my poor ass.

I've had girls in Asia you know the bar girl thing, pay my bar fine and don't pay me anything, I just want to have fun with you, because I'm a fun guy.

OK just put yourself in the girls shoes for a mintute They tell me they have to go with OLD, miserable, grumpy, stinky, sweaty, nasty, smokers, tabacco chewers, BORING, whining,"OLD" again. Blokes. Who want sex but are not very good at it, limp dicks, want their stinky old fella sucked, . I don't think the young ladies are very happy about that. Go places you want to go. Do things you want to do. I don't think they like that. Grumpy guys tell them what to do, how to dress, how to act, they don't like that, . I know one thing they do like 'MONEY" ! YEH! BABY! I LOVE YOU MONEY!

That is why they put up with all your shit for the MONEY! MONEY! MONEY! .

That's why I get no problemos, because I ain't got NO money! So if they are with me it's not for. Heh! Try that some time if you are looking for a genuine girl. Don't spend anthing on them then you tell if it's real or not, You might be supprised.

[La Isla]

It happens all over the world.

That is for sure. Man, if I hear "Mine's different" one more time, I think I'm going to just bitchslap them.

Is success in these relationships possible? YES. Is it probable? NO.

The best chance of success is if you live in her country. If you are traveling back and forth a few times a year, your chances go way, way down.

Is age or race a factor? You bet, but again, much less so if you live in country.

And I hate to say this, but BB is right. Giving them money equal, or a little better, than they normally would have is OK. If she can quit her job and live on it though, you are asking for trouble. Idle people find ways to get into trouble. If you spoil her above and beyond her normal means, then you are asking for trouble. If you feel the need to have to lavish her with money to keep her, you're barking up the wrong tree.

Most ex-pats I know who have married and live in country are pretty happy and the relationships seem to last. 99% of the part-timers who have "fallen in love" and brought them back have ended badly. I DO know one Cuban girl who has been very happily living in Toronto with her husband for 8 years now. That's the only one I know.

How do I know this? Personal experience? Nope, but I have seen this scenario countless times all over the place.

Anyway,"mine's different". HAHAHA

[Run Mann]

Hahaha, funny and valid rant but this is not only an issue with American males and Haitian women. It happens all over the world, I see the same thing in Asia. Some people will just have to learn the hard way. Experienced males will live with these women in the girl's native land only; taking them back home to your homeland to live is the beginning of the end. Spoiling them with gifts and money may provide you with a sense of fulfillment / enjoyment but in the long run it will hurt you. There's always gong to be exception but this rule certainly applies to the majority of these girl. I don't see this changing anytime soon though; it's a trend with no end in sight.

[BadBear2000]

For years I have sold the American men and others around the world that are looking for good girl friends or even wives to come to Haiti. The response has been outstanding and one of the best reasons is because the Haitian women are not spoiled like our American women. So what does the stupid American do? He comes to Haiti and has the best sex he has ever had, met some very sweet girls, and then guess what he does? Starts to spoil them by giving them more money than they know what to do with and starts to buy them things they have never imagined. The next thing you know they are living in expensive apartments, trying to drive their new cars around, and laughing at the dumb American because while the guy is away, they can still play.

I made the same mistake years ago. The Dominican girls use to be the same. I married one and thought if I gave her more than she ever had before, she would worship me. Oops! While in the states she visited a sister in Italy that had a husband that was a factory owner and had succeeded in spoiling her beyond your imagination. My wife came back and found a guy even older than me but had much more money. She now has apartments in Philly and the DR along with several businesses around the world but that was not enough. She managed to steal the beach land that I had purchased in the DR just before we got married. The more you give them, the more they want. The difference in them is they become very aggressive and have no problem ripping your balls out or worse your heart to get what they want.

And who can we blame? Ourselves! So guys, please before you continue on your quest to spoil the Haitian girls, LEAVE!

There is also another side to this you may really want to take serious. Giving your new found love more money than she knows how to handle usually winds up in the hands of family or even old boy friends that you think does not exist. When they learn you may be taking them off to the good old US of A, they may panic and actually do something to try and prevent this. So if you are one of these guys, watch your back!

And then there is even another side to this story. Many of these girls had local boyfriends when you showed up. They are not too happy about the fact you bought their babes away from them because you could give them more than they could.

You can always go to the DR and get yourself a spoiled Dominican girl. That way you want screw up Haiti.

Advice from the BEAR.

PS: If any of my old friends see me doing something, I want you to point it out to me. That does not mean I will not do the stupid thing of which you are warning but at least I have been warned.

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Good Day

[Pro Am]

After a couple of years, I have to change things. In the future, unless you are a long time visitor we must require a 20% deposit and each day or week paid in advance. I guess everyone has experienced this but I must admit this was my first. We had a guest for 3 days here while I was out of the country. We agreed on $250 plus $25 for pickup and delivery at the airport which everyone that has ever been to Haiti know that is a good deal Meals included. He paid $100 to my girl and said he would pay the other by paypal but since he used a phoney email address, I could not even bill him. His excuse was no body baby sit him. He was not shown the clubs which was a lie as he brought several girls to the house. Anyway, one AH makes problems for others. This is Haiti and not Vegas. Do not expect a Hyatt Regency for $70 per night. Even the hotels that charge $160 per night is like a good Days Inn in the USA. If you want to go to the beach, let us know before you come so we can make arrangements. Gasoline is $5 per gallon here and we can no longer drive people around for nothing. To go to the beach will cost about $50 in gasoline alone. I have said this once and I will say it again. This is not the Dominican Republic where you can walk out on the street and grab hookers by the dozen. If you are looking for a good girl that could become a girl friend or even wife, you will not find them at Baracks or Jet Sets. You will find them walking to grand ma's house or just going to the market. We will show you the clubs and since it is about 5 minutes by tap tap or moto, you will be on your own.

Having traveled Haiti for the past year I can tell you that Haiti is not the DR. Where a car in the DR can be rented for $50 a day it's $125 in Haiti and that's for the econo box. I have stayed at hotels in Petion-ville and the cheapest I paid was $60 a night. That same room today rents for $97. Most hotels in PV close to walking and safety are over $100 night, plus tax, plus energy fee. Airport pickup and drop off is $25-35 depending on who it is.

BadBear is a friend, and he is always willing to help people with coming to Haiti. But use common sense, it's not cheap or free. The only thing BB shouldn't charge you for is his advice. And for me that advice over the past year has been priceless. And as BB says you might have to work at it a little to make some friends.