Las Chavelas Bar Reports

[Jackie888]

It is crazy that they just sit with head into there phones. When a guy passes they should atheist make eye contact.

There was a totally hot girl in HK dancing on the counter and she didn't even want the dollar tips!

G.

I think the reason is that the girls don't think they're on duty when they are in Chubelas. It's sorta like jail for them. So they're doing all their daily shits like checking their mails, buying stuff online, etc. They are really bored shitless. The exception to this are weekend evenings when they have a live band, and the true Chubelas girls come to work. You will know because they will wear cocktail dresses and want to dance. Not the stripper naked and ride a dildo lesbian dance, but a real couples dance with a lucky chico. So if you want eye contact and flirting at Chubelas, you will have to wait for the weekends and pick one that isn't dressed like a HK ****.

[Gregyyr]

The chicas need to either spend an hour in chavelas (jail) or they have to do 3 stints dancing on the pole (work release) before they cruise around hk.

It is crazy that they just sit with head into there phones. When a guy passes they should atheist make eye contact.

There was a totally hot girl in HK dancing on the counter and she didn't even want the dollar tips!

G.

[Member #4730]

The chicas need to either spend an hour in chavelas (jail) or they have to do 3 stints dancing on the pole (work release) before they cruise around hk.

Ohh that is what a girl meant when I took her arriba from Chavelas. She said she had to do an hour and checkin. Explains the sadness and crossed arms sitting on the sofas. More hotties than in HK, but just thought they didn't dance or have revealing attire.

[Just_Shat]

What surprises me is that Chavelas has more hotties than HK, but they are all sitting around looking sad or bored or on their phones. They need a better vibe and more booty shaking. I guess the ladies are more reserved and not about that HK party life. Not sure how they can make ends meet with just sitting around in the booths.

The chicas need to either spend an hour in chavelas (jail) or they have to do 3 stints dancing on the pole (work release) before they cruise around hk.

[Dcrist0527]

What surprises me is that Chavelas has more hotties than HK, but they are all sitting around looking sad or bored or on their phones. They need a better vibe and more booty shaking. I guess the ladies are more reserved and not about that HK party life. Not sure how they can make ends meet with just sitting around in the booths.

There's very little distinction between the two bars at this point. Girls are free to come and go as they please. There are some girls that "must" work Chavelas for a couple hours of their shift. And I know some girls work their entire shifts in Chavelas. But HK girls will go there often as a break. There is far less hustle, far fewer people. So I think that "break" results in the girls sitting around, checking phones, etc.

[Heyunous]

What surprises me is that Chavelas has more hotties than HK, but they are all sitting around looking sad or bored or on their phones. They need a better vibe and more booty shaking. I guess the ladies are more reserved and not about that HK party life. Not sure how they can make ends meet with just sitting around in the booths.

The girls in LC are mostly the HK girls waiting for their turn to go up on stage in HK and dance. It is my understanding that all the girls begin their HK shift in LC.

[Member #4730]

Chubelas is slowly making its way back. They brought back the live bands, and some of the girls are in cocktail dresses. Now if they were to bring in a couple of Fat girls, it would be back to the good old days.

What surprises me is that Chavelas has more hotties than HK, but they are all sitting around looking sad or bored or on their phones. They need a better vibe and more booty shaking. I guess the ladies are more reserved and not about that HK party life. Not sure how they can make ends meet with just sitting around in the booths.

[Jackie888]

Chubelas is slowly making its way back. They brought back the live bands, and some of the girls are in cocktail dresses. Now if they were to bring in a couple of Fat girls, it would be back to the good old days.

[UsaInEurope]

Went Thursday night and no fee.

Friday night around midnight was $5 entry fee. Didn't bother.

[Jackie888]

Stopped by Saturday night. Looks like Chubelas adopted the mandatory drink cover charge just to enter just like HK does. I wish they'd split the club back into 2 again.

[Babe Magnet]

Where's the money coming from? In Tijuana it's coming from 20 different places. There's a lot going on. An international airport. A major soccer stadium, along with the agua caliente casino complex. The maquiladora factories adds a lot to the economy. The import export shipping logistics, banking, medical tourism.

I hear what you're saying Jinxx and I appreciate your responses, but to play devil's advocate, most of the airport, soccer stadiums and casinos have been shut down (or severely scaled back) for the past 12 months. Along with most bars, restaurants and tourist attractions. Tourism has been at a virtual standstill for the past year. Not to mention the effect that has on the livelihood of vendors and other support staff. Hell, even some Oxxos are still offering window service only. Tijuana exports were down 6% last year, along with every leading economic indicator. Yet people keep spending. Regular people. People who should be bleeding from the ears financially, if reports are to be believed. Nobody down here can explain it, not that there are that many Nobel-prize economists running around. But, everyone just shrugs, "No se."

I was reading a report that illicit money is what is pushing up real estate prices, most notably on the higher end properties valued in the millions of dollars. You have to take into account just how much illicit money ends up in the Tijuana economy.

I realize there are truckloads of drug money that flow through Tijuana every day, but that doesn't trickle down to the average Mexican.

But hell, there's got to be some way to harness some of that money and funnel it into education. And if they want to fix the security problem they need to expand their court system. They need more courts, more judges, more prosecuting attorneys. Even if the cops did arrest half the perpetrators of crimes, the court system would immediately become overwhelmed.

The court systems are already overwhelmed, as you pointed out. It can take a case years to filter through the system. You're taking the stance, "If they knew better, they'd do better." I would sure like to see that tested here. I get the feeling that nobody wants change--everyone seems quite comfortable with the status quo.

[Babe Magnet]

So if you are seeing Tijuana residents spending a lot of money, it is because they are in the top 20%. Mexico is a very rich country but the wealth is distributed, like in the USA, according to Pareto's Law.

I'm not talking about the top 20%. I'm talking about average Joses, the bottom 80%. Regular people are spending money like it's growing on trees. Mexico has no social safety net for the destitute, yet, aside from the Haitian homeless camp, you don't see people begging in the streets that much. I'm out and about every day and they're buying, not begging. If you want to see the contrast, go to 12th & Imperial in SD and compare that shitshow to what you see in Mexico. There's no comparison. Somehow, people in Mexico make it no matter what. And they're not getting federali government handouts to do it.

[Travv]

In 1906, Italian economist Vilfredo Pareto created a mathematical formula to describe the unequal distribution of wealth in his country. Pareto observed that 20% of the people owned 80% of the nation's wealth. He could not know it, but in time that rule would be found to apply with uncanny accuracy to many situations and be useful in many disciplines, including the study of business productivity. . .

You can see the video below, but in essence, it shows us how roughly 85% of the wealth in the USA is owned by the top 15% of the population. What's interesting is that Americans think the top 20% only own the top 40% of the wealth. What's even weirder is that they WISH the top 20% only owned 30% of the wealth.

Interestingly, this isn't even close to being an "American problem". It's a global issue. The Human Development Reports has found that over 80% of all global wealth is owned by the top 20% of the population. The bottom 40% of the population own about 3% of global wealth. And the top 1% of the richest global citizens own 40% of the world's wealth, just as is shown in America, in the video. It's also interesting to note that the average American is part of the global 1%. That is, the average American owns magnitudes more global wealth than the rest of the world does. . . "

So what is the reason for Pareto's Law? A possible explanation: IQ and the Wealth of Nations. . . Amazon: Lynn and Vanhanen test the hypothesis on the causal relationship between the average national intelligence (IQ) and the gap between rich and poor countries by empirical evidence. Based on an extensive survey of national IQ tests, the results of their work challenge the previous theories of economic development and provide a new basis to evaluate the prospects of economic development throughout the world.

So if you are seeing Tijuana residents spending a lot of money, it is because they are in the top 20%. Mexico is a very rich country but the wealth is distributed, like in the USA, according to Pareto's Law.

I'm down with you 100% on that, Jinxx.

This is off-topic, but something that's been a mystery to me; maybe you know: where do Mexicans here get all this money? They party every weekend like it's 1999. By any measure, Tijuana should be in the toilet, financially. There are very few US tourists in Tijuana right now and almost none on the beaches and it's been this way for over a year. I realize tourism isn't all there is to Tijuana, but exports in 2020 were down 6%, along with every other economic indicator.

[Jinxx]

I'm down with you 100% on that, Jinxx.

This is off-topic, but something that's been a mystery to me; maybe you know: where do Mexicans here get all this money? They party every weekend like it's 1999. By any measure, Tijuana should be in the toilet, financially. There are very few US tourists in Tijuana right now and almost none on the beaches and it's been this way for over a year. I realize tourism isn't all there is to Tijuana, but exports in 2020 were down 6%, along with every other economic indicator.

Where's the money coming from? In Tijuana it's coming from 20 different places. There's a lot going on. An international airport. A major soccer stadium, along with the agua caliente casino complex. The maquiladora factories adds a lot to the economy. The import export shipping logistics, banking, medical tourism. I was reading a report that illicit money is what is pushing up real estate prices, most notably on the higher end properties valued in the millions of dollars. You have to take into account just how much illicit money ends up in the Tijuana economy. But hell, there's got to be some way to harness some of that money and funnel it into education. And if they want to fix the security problem they need to expand their court system. They need more courts, more judges, more prosecuting attorneys. Even if the cops did arrest half the perpetrators of crimes, the court system would immediately become overwhelmed. They don't have anywhere near the capacity to prosecute even half of the committed crimes, that's why like 90% of crimes no one ever gets arrested.

[Babe Magnet]

A lot of Mexicans in Tijuana make a good living. Now, you aren't seeing the Tijuana school teachers and bus drivers blowing money in Tijuana. But I met many woman online who travel all over the world for vacations who have regular jobs. I met a lot woman in Tijuana that have been to places in USA I will never get to. I have a friend, who 2 years ago wanted her asylum in USA, now she won't leave Mexico. Even though she's without papers in maxixe and keeps getting fired as their government tracks downs illegals and forces their employer to fire them. But she finds new job, enjoys her cheap rent and low cost of living and sees the pictures and living condition if she moves to LOS Angeles to make 30 k a year cleaning hotel rooms and sharing a bedroom in a house of 15 people.

Somehow the story of somebody making $30 K / year is just not convincing me that people in Tijuana make a lot of money. I'm talking serious cash, here. And we've been locked down solid in a scamdemic for 14 months, now. So, I'm not interested in speculation, but I know Jinxx has some inside knowledge about Mexico which is why I specifically asked him. Because I'm seeing people here blowing some serious dough (and I'm not talking drug dealers or cartel--just regular people) and nobody can give me a reasonable explanation for where they're getting it--and it's damn sure not from the government because AMLO said from the start, "I'm not subsidizing you people".