One Wing Low in China

[One Wing Low]

Hold it! Don't get too hot and make more accusations until you read carefully and understand my post.

There are differences in the uses of terminologies between the US and Australia. I call them strip clubs because the girls strip down to their bikinis. You may define strippers differently.

The menstruating girls do work in Atlantis. The mamasan there told me they wear short skirts in stead of bikinis, indicating they will not have sex.

I called down a few cute girls who turned out to be cherry, so I had to let them go. Eileen was not a cherry girl and was willing to have sex. That's why I bar fined her. But she had a scam planned from the start.

Looks like you have some prejudices and it's you who read inaccuracies into my post.

There are NO strip clubs in Angeles City FULL STOP. In virtually ALL bars girls dance on stage wearing bikinis – they DO NOT and have NEVER stripped in the bars / clubs. Again no girls strip in Dollhouse. Atlantis has up to 300 girls working there – about 50 'Green Tag' girls whose barfine I'd P3, 000 – the others from P1, 500 to P2, 000Again factually incorrect – yes girls on menstruation do continue to work in Dollhouse Group Bars and indeed in virtually every bar in Angeles City. Alaska Bar (red uniforms) and Stargate (red belts on uniforms) are the only 2 bars in AC to my knowledge that visibly identify girls who are menstruating. Again absolute crap. 'Cherry Girls' in The Philippines are VIRGINS – they do not fuck – they WILL NOT fuck – many work in the bars to earn dancing / drinking commissions – many go barfine also for 'bar-hopping'/socialising only – some give blow job – some reportedly also allow anal – but they DO NOT fuck. Absolutely it is – in fact this is the only accurate line in this whole report.

OWL – if you are going to post – try to get it accurate or please do not waste the bandwidth.

[Bad Boy Billy]

There are many strip clubs packed into the half-mile long Field Ave, .

There are NO strip clubs in Angeles City FULL STOP. In virtually ALL bars girls dance on stage wearing bikinis – they DO NOT and have NEVER stripped in the bars / clubs.

The Doll House opens 24-hours, but only 4, 5 girls stripping, and quality is below average. .

Again no girls strip in Dollhouse.

Atlantis has the most girls, like 90, about half has 1500 p bar fine and the rest 3000 p. .

Atlantis has up to 300 girls working there – about 50 'Green Tag' girls whose barfine I'd P3, 000 – the others from P1, 500 to P2, 000

Those wearing skirts are menstruating and cannot have sex; .

Again factually incorrect – yes girls on menstruation do continue to work in Dollhouse Group Bars and indeed in virtually every bar in Angeles City. Alaska Bar (red uniforms) and Stargate (red belts on uniforms) are the only 2 bars in AC to my knowledge that visibly identify girls who are menstruating.

I went through a few cherry girls (the young, fresh, shy, pretty girls who are my favorites) then decided on Eileen, a 20 YO tall, shapely girls with above average face, but definitely with a tall, lean, sexy, light-skinned body. …….Took her back to the hotel………..1 shot……….. We had sex. She had a nice, young, lean, hard body. Her pussy was one of the tightest. She complained about pain in her pussy and wanted me to go slow. I barely moved my dick when she got mad, jumped out of bed, put on her clothes and left. ……….In retrospect, I should have lubed up Eileen. I would at least get 2 or 3 sexy fucks out of her .

Again absolute crap. 'Cherry Girls' in The Philippines are VIRGINS – they do not fuck – they WILL NOT fuck – many work in the bars to earn dancing / drinking commissions – many go barfine also for 'bar-hopping'/socialising only – some give blow job – some reportedly also allow anal – but they DO NOT fuck.

Angeles city is really just a meat market. .

Absolutely it is – in fact this is the only accurate line in this whole report.

OWL – if you are going to post – try to get it accurate or please do not waste the bandwidth.

[One Wing Low]

When I go to Asia, I usually fly on Cathay Pacific. They have non-stop flights between US West Coast's gateways to HK in about 12 hours. That if they do not run into strong headwinds, burn out fuel onboard and have to land in Tokyo or Seoul to refuel, which would make their flight times same as Korean, Japanese and Taiwanese carriers.

This time I had to see someone in Beijing, so I took Air China, which is Beijing flagship carrier, and not China Air which is Taiwan's carrier.

Air China's passengers are mostly mainland Chinese heading to Beijing. They look older and wear frumpy clothes. The passengers are rude. Some well-dressed young men and even distinguished-looking old men would cut in line and never yield to women with children, handicapped or old people, even when there was no rush, as there was 2-hour wait for boarding. They just forced ahead, pushing others out of the way with no regards. In comparison, passengers on Cathay Pacific are usually younger people and families heading to HK and other parts of Asia, who act with better civility.

The waits between the entrance then the security check point were about half hour each. Even when we were 2 hours ahead of boarding time, tension was high. I was waiting at the X-ray machines when TSA people made us yield to Air China's entire crew with pilots and flight attendants. One of the young guys got very upset and showed it. He did not know flight crews are given priority at any airport. He was speaking out loudly and gesturing wildly. The Chinese captain was concerned. He kept his eye on that bro the whole time.

The captain was a short, wiry man with crew cut, about 40's. He looked like a farm hand. Before flying Boeing 747-400, he must have been one of those jet jocks flying Mig-17's off China's East coast, trying to hump US Navy's P3 Orions, which were only carrying innocent old ladies and children on their sight-seeing flights in international water. Occasionally they may spot China's secret submarine bases and missile sites, which they would photograph and mark coordinates for souvenirs. Etc.

Air China's 747-400's look new with nice and clean interior, smelling fresh. Seat pitch is generous, longer by perhaps 6 inches compared to Cathay. Cathay's 747-400's are older, rattling, squeaking, groaning in flight. The interior is old, grimy, smelly, not properly cleaned. Seat pitch is so tight, my knees were always hitting the seat before me, very difficult to get in or out and uncomfortable in flight. But each seat has a tiny LCD in front where one can play some 30channels of entertainment. Air China did not even show a movie during flight.

Cathay's food is delicious, better than most US carriers on international flights. Meanwhile Air China's food is very poor and tasteless, probably a 1 on scale of 10. I enjoy Chinese cuisine but could not think of any worse airline foods.

Air China flight attendants are mostly older, like mid 30's, typical tall and beefy Northern Han women with their broad face, who speak virtually no English. Cathay has some young and very pretty women in the cabin. It's nice to hear them chatting all night with their HK or Singapore English accents.

One big kudo for Air China is the extreme smoothness the flight crew handled the flight. I did not feel any changes in heading, altitude, ascending or descending durign flight. We approached Beijing IA in the thick engulfng morning haze, everything was smooth and quiet until the main landing wheels, then nose wheels touched down gently, and the copilot raised the spoiler to cut off the wings' lift, then engaging the howling thrust reversers and stepping on the brakes to stop the plane.

Let's just hope we will learn of each other's preferred ways and not having to fight any time in the near future.

[One Wing Low]

One Wing Low in China? What are you talking / writing about?

Lost in Translation, or what?

Levitian

Lots more info about the Phil, Will be moved to the Philippines thread.

[Levitian]

the town is crowded, noisy, dusty, reeking of sewage.

checked out lost in asia at about 10pm, a few miles north of field ave. about 6 girls, all below average. there are many karaoke bars rep001tered along perimeter road, catering to japanese and koreans, where light-skinned girls are the main attractions. all girls i met in angeles speak passable english.

checked out masaki or secret bar, a karaoke joint for japanese and korean, supposedly with the hottest-looking girls in angeles. the joint did not start until after 10pm. only 4 girls were there, all older and below average in looks.

checked out dunk shot, a bar off the main road, about a mile or two south of the mcdonald. this joint starts at 10pm, supposedly with the best-looking girls, where local big-shot filipinos go for their fix. there are no take outs. the girls do it upstairs in vip rooms 2000 php for about 3 hours including some drinks (?) , according to management.

dunk shot makes you buy 2 drinks for 180 php each person as cover charge. the girls take turns dancing half naked on a plain stage. most are light-skinned but older and much beefier than my taste. the papasan and mamasans kept coming over to pressure me into picking out a girl. but i don't like the girls' looks and the high-pressure selling tactics. i left after finishing 1 beer. i can see a clip joint quickly. this place caters to local filipinos mostly.

there are many strip clubs packed into the half-mile long field ave, most open around 7pm going until 4am. drinks are 65 p to 95p, lady drinks are 150p. most bars sell buckets of 15 ping pong balls for 300p. the idea is to reward good-looking strippers by throwing the balls at them, so they can cash in as tips. most bars have 2-tiered bar fine. 1500p and 3000p. there are good and bad-looking girls in either categories. smaller bars like typhoon has some good. looking girls for 1800p.

the doll house opens 24-hours, but only 4, 5 girls stripping, and quality is below average.

crystal palace, behind field ave, had about 50 girls every night, but they would just dance in place to the music, so it's hard to see all of them.

atlantis has the most girls, like 90, about half has 1500 p bar fine and the rest 3000 p. atlantis probably has the youngest, funnest and best-looking girls in angeles. they actually stage many sequences of girls taking turns dancing. i picked out a few girls. those wearing skirts are menstruating and cannot have sex; those wearing bikinis would do sex, except a few young, shy, disinterested girls, who are cherry and will not fuck. the mamasans would come around urging and helping with selecting the girls.

i went through a few cherry girls (the young, fresh, shy, pretty girls who are my favorites) then decided on eileen, a 20 yo tall, shapely girls with above average face, but definitely with a tall, lean, sexy, light-skinned body. the mamasan called her down. i took a good look at her closed up, feeling her hot body to confirm. paid 1500 p bar fine, negotiating with her and the mamasan for 9am departure next day.

took her back to the hotel. we were walking back on field ave, hand in hand, talking like lovers. when she got into the room, she immediately said she just texted her mom, and wanted to go right after 1 shot. i was pissed at her quick change in attitude, and told her straight out that she made a deal to leave at 9am next day and had to stay. we had sex. she had a nice, young, lean, hard body. her pussy was one of the tightest. she complained about pain in her pussy and wanted me to go slow. i barely moved my dick when she got mad, jumped out of bed, put on her clothes and left. she spent less than 10 minutes in bed with me.

next day i went to atlantis to complain with an aussie partner named troy, and mamasan weng. i was pissed. the management was apologetic but could not refund or grant credit. i bar fined another girl for the night. she looked good and tall under the stage light, but in bed, she was a short and skinny girl, soft body, without much sex appeal. her pussy was looser than i wanted. i screwed her a few times then let her go early. did not enjoy that session at all.

in retrospect, i should have lubed up eileen. i would at least get 2 or 3 sexy fucks out of her and bar fined another girl for the rest of the night. the moral here is not to strong arm the girls, as they can act up and management can do little to remedy the situation. many bars have banners looking for mamasans with 10 or more dancers. angeles city is really just a meat market.

the tourist police guy on the north side of field ave, to remain nameless for good reasons, personally delivered a girl to my hotel room around 5am one early morning, when all bars already closed. i took her in, then regretted that she was older with a pair of seriously small and droopy boobs. she wanted 1000 p for st. i laughed, told her 400 p max, which she quickly accepted. i got stuck fucking an older, not so good-looking girl for 400p. she hung around offering a second shot, but i just paid her and asked her to leave.

went to the food court at sm mall for some very good filipino and other ethnic foods. the mall is nice and clean, with a wide selection of foods and many good-looking girls. some of angeles' strippers are older, and some actually look hideous, crossed-eyed, missing teeth ect.

did not have a good time in angeles. the girls are mostly crude, short, darker, poor-looking farm girls with a few exceptions. just did not feel the girls are sexy and attractive enough for good sex and good company.

instead in manilla, found some very nice, sexy, good-looking girls, attractive in many ways, to have sex and to hang out with. will continue with one of the all-time best sexcapades in manilla.

one wing low in china? what are you talking / writing about?

lost in translation, or what?

levitian

[One Wing Low]

the town is crowded, noisy, dusty, reeking of sewage.

checked out lost in asia at about 10pm, a few miles north of field ave. about 6 girls, all below average. there are many karaoke bars rep001tered along perimeter road, catering to japanese and koreans, where light-skinned girls are the main attractions. all girls i met in angeles speak passable english.

checked out masaki or secret bar, a karaoke joint for japanese and korean, supposedly with the hottest-looking girls in angeles. the joint did not start until after 10pm. only 4 girls were there, all older and below average in looks.

checked out dunk shot, a bar off the main road, about a mile or two south of the mcdonald. this joint starts at 10pm, supposedly with the best-looking girls, where local big-shot filipinos go for their fix. there are no take outs. the girls do it upstairs in vip rooms 2000 php for about 3 hours including some drinks (?) , according to management.

dunk shot makes you buy 2 drinks for 180 php each person as cover charge. the girls take turns dancing half naked on a plain stage. most are light-skinned but older and much beefier than my taste. the papasan and mamasans kept coming over to pressure me into picking out a girl. but i don't like the girls' looks and the high-pressure selling tactics. i left after finishing 1 beer. i can see a clip joint quickly. this place caters to local filipinos mostly.

there are many strip clubs packed into the half-mile long field ave, most open around 7pm going until 4am. drinks are 65 p to 95p, lady drinks are 150p. most bars sell buckets of 15 ping pong balls for 300p. the idea is to reward good-looking strippers by throwing the balls at them, so they can cash in as tips. most bars have 2-tiered bar fine. 1500p and 3000p. there are good and bad-looking girls in either categories. smaller bars like typhoon has some good.looking girls for 1800p.

the doll house opens 24-hours, but only 4, 5 girls stripping, and quality is below average.

crystal palace, behind field ave, had about 50 girls every night, but they would just dance in place to the music, so it's hard to see all of them.

atlantis has the most girls, like 90, about half has 1500 p bar fine and the rest 3000 p. atlantis probably has the youngest, funnest and best-looking girls in angeles. they actually stage many sequences of girls taking turns dancing. i picked out a few girls. those wearing skirts are menstruating and cannot have sex; those wearing bikinis would do sex, except a few young, shy, disinterested girls, who are cherry and will not fuck. the mamasans would come around urging and helping with selecting the girls.

i went through a few cherry girls (the young, fresh, shy, pretty girls who are my favorites) then decided on eileen, a 20 yo tall, shapely girls with above average face, but definitely with a tall, lean, sexy, light-skinned body. the mamasan called her down. i took a good look at her closed up, feeling her hot body to confirm. paid 1500 p bar fine, negotiating with her and the mamasan for 9am departure next day.

took her back to the hotel. we were walking back on field ave, hand in hand, talking like lovers. when she got into the room, she immediately said she just texted her mom, and wanted to go right after 1 shot. i was pissed at her quick change in attitude, and told her straight out that she made a deal to leave at 9am next day and had to stay. we had sex. she had a nice, young, lean, hard body. her pussy was one of the tightest. she complained about pain in her pussy and wanted me to go slow. i barely moved my dick when she got mad, jumped out of bed, put on her clothes and left. she spent less than 10 minutes in bed with me.

next day i went to atlantis to complain with an aussie partner named troy, and mamasan weng. i was pissed. the management was apologetic but could not refund or grant credit. i bar fined another girl for the night. she looked good and tall under the stage light, but in bed, she was a short and skinny girl, soft body, without much sex appeal. her pussy was looser than i wanted. i screwed her a few times then let her go early. did not enjoy that session at all.

in retrospect, i should have lubed up eileen. i would at least get 2 or 3 sexy fucks out of her and bar fined another girl for the rest of the night. the moral here is not to strong arm the girls, as they can act up and management can do little to remedy the situation. many bars have banners looking for mamasans with 10 or more dancers. angeles city is really just a meat market.

the tourist police guy on the north side of field ave, to remain nameless for good reasons, personally delivered a girl to my hotel room around 5am one early morning, when all bars already closed. i took her in, then regretted that she was older with a pair of seriously small and droopy boobs. she wanted 1000 p for st. i laughed, told her 400 p max, which she quickly accepted. i got stuck fucking an older, not so good-looking girl for 400p. she hung around offering a second shot, but i just paid her and asked her to leave.

went to the food court at sm mall for some very good filipino and other ethnic foods. the mall is nice and clean, with a wide selection of foods and many good-looking girls. some of angeles' strippers are older, and some actually look hideous, crossed-eyed, missing teeth ect.

did not have a good time in angeles. the girls are mostly crude, short, darker, poor-looking farm girls with a few exceptions. just did not feel the girls are sexy and attractive enough for good sex and good company.

instead in manilla, found some very nice, sexy, good-looking girls, attractive in many ways, to have sex and to hang out with. will continue with one of the all-time best sexcapades in manilla.

[One Wing Low]

Arriving in Manilla in the afternoon, staying at the Riviera Mansion hotel in Ermita, near the Manilla Bay boardwalk, Manilla Bay Cafe and the Robinson mall.

Went to Edsa Enertaiment Complex and Ms Universal Bar near the Edsa highway, along ride from Ermita. Girls were mostly average.

Went back to MBC and took out a cute girl for $1500 for 4 hours. She was acting very passionate at the first fuck, but complained about pain in her pussy. Did her 4 times in 3 hours and let her go. She had bad breat.

The driver at the Riviera mansion suggested a few houses where filipinos go to pick their girls. The one in Ermita had about 20 girls costing 2000 Php all night. The house in Makati had 30 girls, many rating 8 or 9 for 3000 Php all night. Took a very cute, model-looking half Spanish girl. She was a 9, very beautiful.

More ot come.

[One Wing Low]

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1 down, 2 to go

Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson

[One Wing Low]

Every time one engages sex guides in Asia, they will pull many tricks in collusion with the KTV's to lift as much money from the unsuspecting clients as possible. They will also try to squeeze as much commission from the KTV's as they can. I am not surprised if they would even harass the KTV girls the next day, demanding kickbacks from them...

The sex guides can just simply tell the KTV managers to write up the bills in any amount he thinks he can get the clients to pay. That's easy. He does that every night.

These sex guides are a bunch of low-life bastards whom noone should trust or rely on as friends.

Even at the best KTVs in Southern China, the minimum costs for a room sitting 4 to 6 guys are about 500-600 RMB, sitting fees for the girls and DJ are extras. That means you must spend at least that much in drinks and food for that room. Divide that out to how many guys in the party and you will get the rough reasonable cost per head.

Then all KTV managers, bus boys and waitresses would pop in with their hands out for tips. Usually the KTV girls would try to curry favors with their mommies, therefore urging the clients to tip them. But they would rather the clients not tip every retard who pops in smiling, begging and save that tip money for them...

Paying 800-900RMB per head with dozen guys for a beer-drinking KTV party is a big rip off. Eventhough the differences may be small in foreign currencies, the bros should not let these con men rip them off and treat them like retards..

[One Wing Low]

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[One Wing Low]

Dear Mr. Westwind,

It's very inconsiderate of you to make this statement.

Have you ever thought that, instead of a chop stick, the guy may actually prefer to have a big seguarro cactus rammed up his ass??

OK I am only kidding. hehehe. I dont know this guy Lost99. I dont know what he did to deserve your violent proposal.

There are too many rough, rude, uncivilized guys in the China thread that I dont think you need to join them. Dont lose your cool on account of low-life losers. You would not look very good.

SE ASIA JERK did a lot of manipulating and bullying the newbies to steer pimping business to Big Swinging Dave, who charges them double the market prices. He likely splits the pimping gains with BS Dave every weekend, laughing how it's so easy to fleece the unsuspecting bros... The 2 low lifes even made it look like they were doing the bros big favors, making them feel guilty for not tipping B S Dave enough... What a crock of shit.

I am sick of these stupid, twisted, low-lifes making their living off the hapless prostitutes in Changping, while playing games posing as gentlemen in this forum. They are no better than pimps and runners in CP's prostitution neighborhoods.

Everyone has to make a living. It's honorable to make a honest living doing reasonable work for resonable pay. When someone resorts to dishonesty, lie, bullshit to make a living, then he/she is just a thief...

JETT, SKY RYDER, LOST99, BB and whoever else who is barking in behalf of BSD:

Before we start this truce though, I would like to say one thing to Mr. Lost99, I live in hong kong, you can come visit me anytime. Just let me know when you are coming down. And when we do meet, I am gonna stick a chopstick up your ass.
WEST

[One Wing Low]

I have never met BSD. But it looks like he has been gouging the ISG bros big time. Meanwhile his boyfriend SE ASIA JERK has been acting like a stupid, ugly asshole in ISG, abusing the newbies to steer them into spending money on BSD.

I have many friends in HongKong and Mainland China. All I can say is SE ASIA JERK and BSD are not acting like the typically good, gracious, friendly, honest-to-a-fault Chinese that I know.

There are good and bad people in any country. These 2 guys are just small time crooks, pimps, liars, cheaters. Their conducts in ISG showed it clearly.

For manipulating info and abusing people in ISG to gain profit, they should be permannently banned from the forum.

I applaud bro Westwind for posting good info about China for the benefits of other bros, and for pissing on the stupid manipulators who give all Chinese bad names...

[One Wing Low]

There were many good-looking BBS girls in CP. They wear street clothes and mommies would sometimes pull out their boobs to make the sale... They would stay the whole night and let you do all sorts of sexy, kinky things. I had many good sessions with them. I took one to dinner, then the show at Lion hotel, then a whole night having sex with her. She was delightful company...

KTV girls in CP are always shown in bulky dresses. You can see their faces but would never know what their bodies are like until you spend the hours in the KTV room groping them. I just dont like the bulky dress bullshit at the KTV. It's like a bait and switch tactics. The few KTV girls I took in CP were cruder than BBS girls. One even had a stinky pussy so bad I had to get rid of her quickly.

In ShenZhen the BBS girls around Seibu are only good for ST. If you take them over night make sure you negotiate speicifically how many times you can screw and come over how many hours, and what time they can leave...

I found some very beautiful and classy KTV girls in SZ and Dongguan. After the singing and drinking, it's a good idea to ask them to take you to their favorite eating places and treat them to some food before going back to the hotel. When they are full in their stomachs they can be tigresses in bed...

Some of these KTV girls in SZ gave me fabulous nights full of good sex and eroticism... I find Chinese girls a lot better-looking, gentle and classier whereas Thai girls tend to be cruder and more mercenary...

[One Wing Low]

It was the Lion hotel, a few hundred yards down the street from the Miraton.

Thanks for the correction.

Now I dont remember where the Lucky hotel is. I think it's across the street and down further. I can find it with a little walk.

Maybe he meant lion ktv? I think they used to have a show iirc

[One Wing Low]

Please confirm it costs around 300 RMB per head for all you can drink wines including the share of room, DJ and miscellaneous? I suppose sitting fees for the girls are paid separately by the individuals.

Not a bad deal considering you would more likely have to pay 600-900 RMB for 1 small room and have a hard time reserving the room when you want it.

This is One more good option for entertainment in CP, a good news. I may partake KTV parties next time I am in CP, just to check out the talents at major KTV's.

Since I dont sing much Chinese, I used to sit at Lucky KTV's open stage watching their show. Sometimes I would take along KTV or BBS girls. If you select the girls among those in house, they would have gone to change out their costumes and come back to sit with you in street clothes...

The girls love to sit, relax and watch some one else rather than being the entertainment themselves. We would drink beer, eat fruit plates, occasionally grope the girls and kiss their lips... hehe. It's not a bad way bad to spend the evening since there is not much to do in CP besides screwing and eating and screwing again...

Thanks for this good info. Will try to hook up when I am in CP.