Thread: Racism against foreigners in Brazil
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07-21-11 13:49 #47
Posts: 4053Dona
Right, "Dona" is used in a meaning as a sign of respect. You can use it when you want to be polite to older people or when you want to kiss kiss someone's ass.
E. G: Let say you want to rent an apartment from "Maria". If you want to give her a good impression you address her as "Dona Maria".
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07-20-11 01:03 #46
Posts: 178Originally Posted by Amerioca [View Original Post]
It is complete and utter bullshit tho. Also, it shows you got issues.
"Dono" as you put it, means "owner"; plain and simple.
If you own some shit than you're the boss of it and that's it.
Bless.
P. S / This might easily be the most amusing thread ever seen on ISG. Keep up the good work I say!
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07-19-11 23:08 #45
Posts: 15918Originally Posted by Amerioca [View Original Post]
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07-19-11 22:57 #44
Posts: 6420Racism In Brazil
Like in many, many other countries around the world, racism is alive and well in Brazil. There's a reason why the blacks and the dark browns populate the majority of the lower rungs of the socioeconomic order, while the lighter ones hold the majority of the higher economic status. That said, I have to say that I have never experienced any racism perpetrated towards me by a Brazilian in any way, shape, or form. That happens to be one of the many reasons why I love the place. I can be in some other land only half a day and not feel comfortable!
I do realize that going down there as a free-spending tourist and staying out of trouble while keeping my nose clean certainly makes a difference in how I'm treated. But then again, there are some countries where you can go where your money won't mean a damn thing. You'll be treated like less than something equal, and that's that. I don't go to those countries! I think I could be quite happy being an upper-middle class Brazilian. Come to think of it, I would be quite happy being an upper-middle class anything! Hahaha!
The other thing I have to realize is that even if I have been to Brazil many times, you're only going to see so much as a tourist versus somebody who lives and works there every day. I know some people like that (white Americans) who have told me that racism in Brazil can be quite overt and extremely ugly, with the view getting uglier and uglier the more you travel to the South of the country. I've also heard that it can be pretty bad in the far Northeast where people of color make up a large majority of the population, but are still discriminated against and feared as criminals, et cetera by many whites.
I think Rio has the reputation of being the most egalitarian big city in the country, and indeed one of the most egalitarian places in the world. I still haven't decided if the "marvelous city" exactly deserves that reputation or not. I'll just leave it like this. Rio has been very, very good to me! LOL!
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07-19-11 22:37 #43
Posts: 688What is Socially acceptable?
I notice that you amended your post subsequent to my response. In my experience, the use of the 'en' word is repugnant to most people of all races. While Chris Rock and Chris Brown may use this word in their performances, I hope society in general does not view the political incorrectness of these performers as models for what is socially acceptable.
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07-19-11 19:33 #42
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Rock Harders [View Original Post]
Mix it up with Brasilians who spent alot of time in the USA the last four years and see if they don't get a read on who you are and where you are on the food chain, then see how much respect you merit.
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07-19-11 19:03 #41
Posts: 688Originally Posted by Amerioca [View Original Post]
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07-19-11 18:43 #40
Posts: 307Originally Posted by Poucolouco [View Original Post]
With your example, using literal translation,"Owner, here is your order, just as you requested." In most developed countries (English speaking) , the waiter or waitress would be offended should one advise and / or instruct to be addressed by such. Explaining that the title is no different than "sir" and is "polite" would likely be met with anger. Certainly, I would expect a nasty lugie in your dish.
Perhaps, the societal interpretation and usage of dono may have changed in recent times, much like the use of "nigger" in the U.S. It is all too common to hear "[Racial Epithet Deleted by Admin]" being used in modern American society to address an individual/person (of any ethnic background). What we are witnessing is a definition transformation into one of social acceptability.
Historically, I would not consider our most recent affair with slavery, in the mid-19th century, to be "ancient."
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07-19-11 17:20 #39
Posts: 688Class Discrimination
Originally Posted by Amerioca [View Original Post]
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07-19-11 07:59 #38
Posts: 307Originally Posted by Rock Harders [View Original Post]
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11-08-10 23:55 #37
Posts: 578Originally Posted by Golfinho
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11-08-10 20:36 #36
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11-08-10 04:11 #35
Posts: 140Mongers-
I've spent alot of time in Brasil the last four years and probably have a more thorough experience than most guys with significant time in Brasil because of age, language ability, looks, profession, etc. I can tell you one thing for sure: SOCIOECONOMIC CLASS is the number one indicator of how a person is viewed in Brasil. Brasil has a caste system so rigid that it almost rivals what goes on in India. The public education system in Brasil is horrible and functions as a Catch 22 in many ways (the best Universities are public and free, but passing entrance exam to the University is basically impossible to someone who attended public schools). Race really comes secondary although the darker the skin color in Brasil the lower the socioeconomic class is assumed (this is because there is absolutely no socioeconomic mobility). Hard racism in Brasil is absolutely illegal in Brasil (calling someone a slave or black will get you locked up) and nobody will blink an eye when people of different races are seen out together.
In my experience I have never encountered even the smallest amount of discrimination for being a foreigner. Again some of this may be based on my personal situation; a young nice looking fit guy hanging around with young nice looking fit girls. I have been around most areas of Brasil (Amazon, Bahia, Rio, Buzios, Floripa, Foz, SP, Belo Horizonte, Ouro Preto) and have never been even slightly disrespected. Brasilians have always been very un-arrogant and welcoming.
Sorte,
Rock Harders
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11-07-10 22:49 #34
Posts: 2306Originally Posted by Alex Deuce
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11-07-10 22:15 #33
Posts: 4053Originally Posted by Alex Deuce