Prices

[Putologist]

EU and the US are extending the sanctions. IMO this will have -unfortunately- a bad impact into to the Russian economy. But what does it means for specific mongering? On the one hand I think the prices, in general, will somehow go down, because for example less imported products will invade the country; in Moscow sometimes I have the feeling I am living in West Europe, because in some shops I only see western European products for sale, the same products, the same brands just more expensive, craziness, where are the Russian industry, where are the Russian cars? (but sometimes you don't have other option than to buy the imported stuff).

Real state prices will go down, but this could be just a short term wave.

In a long term perspective, would it be -financially speaking- good or bad for foreigners / expats / touris looking for paid sex in Russia?

[Excepticus]

I was quoted 30 000 rur for "a meeting" with a 9/10 young brunette.

Who pays that kind of price seriously?

Moscow. Amazing Moscow. I guess some kind of oligarc would pay that. But she needs to be more than a 10)

If to spend that amount. I would go for the experience of Jake993 in the sauna. I have to recognize I feel intrigued.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1201301

[Passepartout]

I was quoted 30 000 rur for "a meeting" with a 9/10 young brunette.

Who pays that kind of price seriously?

[Alta Reclan]

I can summarize you the cheapest prices for saloons in Saint Petersburg and Moscow. Compare it.

Sankt Petersburg: 2000R.3000 R. (Saloon Mercedes, Nevsky 92, Salon ChaCha, Caramel etc.)

Moscow: 4000R.4500 R. (Charmel and Fantasys)

There's no difference of quality of girls in these two cities. In Sankt-Petersburg English is little bit more common and also I could see also some latin letters in the metro. I could communicate with the saloon in english to find the adress althoug it was little bit hard. The prices for the hotels look same, transportation is easier in Petersburg since it's smaller than Moscow (we can say it's cheaper). In conclusion I can say that if you look only for saloons, I think Petersburg is a better choice.

[Yson44]

I could have written every word of that. Totally agree.

I'm also totaly agree.

[Prosal]

The difference, IMHO is that the Russins are not shackled so the same sense of "Middle Class Morality" that seems to have infested the West when it comes to semi-casual sex.

Russian women tend to follow their almost childishly naive instinct and the passion of the moment without thinking twice. For them, emotions and passion predominate over logic or reason. It's part of the "Russian Soul".

There is a deep feeling, specifically Russian, of contempt for everything conventional, for everything that most Western people consider as "good" (in a moral sense),"reasonable" or "politically correct".

The female characters in Russian classics (Natasha Rostova in "War & Peace", Aglae Epantchine in "The Idiot", ect) are totally representative of this frame of mind BTW.

[Prosal]

Jake, all girls in Moscow are hungry for sex. Many want husbands but most will settle for some good sex and to be treated nicely."

I'd say that all Russian girls are hungry for emotions. IMO sex is important for them, but still secondary. They are excessively emotional.

[Jake993]

Been on the board for few months now. I am starting to travel to Moscow this September and will make several trips over the next two years.

I would like to meet five. Eight ladies with who I can then meet consistently. I find that there are a lot of fake ads.

I do not speak Russian so I prefer english speaking ladies.

Any help?

Thanks

The ads are almost all worthless.

Come to Moscow, get in the game, have fun. Repeat.

IMHO the most consistent and professional ladies are on.

www.rusdosug.com

But that's just me.

With each passing year, English is becoming more prevalent on the streets and clubs and Moscow. Don't worry about it. Trust me. If you are in the company of Moscow Pro or Semi-pro who is interested in you, she will find a way to communicate. I have been coming to Moscow since 2005 and living here full time for a few months. The best way to describe the situation is to quote a young lady that I know here. Just for context, I am not currently sleeping with her but we are still fiends and she is NOT a sex professional but a professional in finance."Jake, all girls in Moscow are hungry for sex. Many want husbands but most will settle for some good sex and to be treated nicely."

[Il Duca]

Been on the board for few months now. I am starting to travel to Moscow this September and will make several trips over the next two years.

I would like to meet five. Eight ladies with who I can then meet consistently. I find that there are a lot of fake ads.

I do not speak Russian so I prefer english speaking ladies.

Any help?

Thanks

[Excepticus]

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1133723]Who indeed?

I am SURE I am not the only one on this board that has a stable of girls that he sees on a rotating basis. What a LOT of Russian girls DO like is the way Western men tend to treat women. Of course, many of us consider that a flaw in and of itself, but the fact of the matter is that some of the girls I sleep with regularly tell me that they are "done" with Russian men. What does that mean? Who the fuck knows? What I do know is that there are about a half dozen girls in Moscow and the provinces who like to meet with me regularly for sex. Suffice it to say that more than an insignificant number of Russian girls have a itch they like to have scratched by a Western guy. And, lucky for many of us, have NO PROBLEM with a 15 to 20 year age difference.

Do any of these girls think that I am having sex with them on an exclusive basis? Not for one second. But they do like the occasional dinner out with a small gift from duty free, maybe a little dancing and then a night of wild sex. What's wrong with that? Not a damn thing wrong with that at all. Like ALL women, Russians like to be made to feel a little bit special and to be transported to a different place (figuratively speaking). The difference, IMHO is that the Russins are not shackled so the same sense of "Middle Class Morality" that seems to have infested the West when it comes to semi-casual sex.

[Passepartout]

I am SURE I am not the only one on this board that has a stable of girls that he sees on a rotating basis. What a LOT of Russian girls DO like is the way Western men tend to treat women. Of course, many of us consider that a flaw in and of itself, but the fact of the matter is that some of the girls I sleep with regularly tell me that they are "done" with Russian men. What does that mean? Who the fuck knows? What I do know is that there are about a half dozen girls in Moscow and the provinces who like to meet with me regularly for sex. Suffice it to say that more than an insignificant number of Russian girls have a itch they like to have scratched by a Western guy. And, lucky for many of us, have NO PROBLEM with a 15 to 20 year age difference.

Do any of these girls think that I am having sex with them on an exclusive basis? Not for one second. But they do like the occasional dinner out with a small gift from duty free, maybe a little dancing and then a night of wild sex. What's wrong with that? Not a damn thing wrong with that at all. Like ALL women, Russians like to be made to feel a little bit special and to be transported to a different place (figuratively speaking). The difference, IMHO is that the Russins are not shackled so the same sense of "Middle Class Morality" that seems to have infested the West when it comes to semi-casual sex.

I could have written every word of that. Totally agree.

[Jake993]

i see a lot of them (now ****d) wore from a bitching way to a emo / punk way, i heard there are some (hidden) contests in italian discos with girls doing blowjobs as many as possible to occasional visitors, i heard they are ready to give their ass just for pleasure.

maybe is that a new hope for the western world?

you may have a point there. girls of a certain age are not "out there" and "available" just for the fun of it. they weren't during the "glory days" of moscow and kiev and they aren't now in other locations. the phenomenon of cheap pussy is driven by economic necessity. period. a 21 year old gorgeous girl does not wake up in the morning and say,"gee i think i'll go fuck some westerner all night long for $75." never did. never will. behavior like that is driven by needs. my need for pussy and her need for money. when my need is stronger than her need, the price goes up. and that's not just for pros either. girlfriends, wives, mistresses whatever.

the phenomenon you refer to in italy? same thing is going on in london and (if you can believe it) nyc. as girls have gotten better educated and have gotten more credible jobs, so too has their access to visas to the eu and to america.

so maybe the girls have not changed; they have just changed venue?

[AColonizer]

jack993, your report is right;

also it is right what prosal wrote after your report: "agree, but still, a russian woman expects a man to be manly, uncompromising and direct, a behaviour in which russian men excell, but that is totally unthinkable for many western men. but you're right, when you combine those qualities with the qualities of the western male (romantism, emotional generosity, witt, refinement, ect) , then she is all yours.";

also it is right what hecker wrote some years ago (if i don't remember bad) : slavic women are made for slavic men in a slavic country because they are the same species in the same environment;

at the last of all of our words, i always see something similar to darwin's law: it is not important who fucks or how to fuck, but it is important to have sex as much as possible in all variants (pussy, mouth, ass, [CodeWord140], fisting, bondage, etc.).

in my opinion:

- the main difference between a successful fucker and an unsuccessful fucker is the first one fucks every living pussy, so he fucks also beautiful young girls because of the law of large numbers, and he doesn't mind any girl and girls like him because he is a lovely bastard, so he gets more opportunities also for long relationships;

- the history has changed, and nowadays the famous beautiful russian girls usually choose wealthy russian men, and breadcrumbs are left to hungry westerners.

i see the history is changing again both eastern and western europe. while we are discussing about russian (and ukrainian) girls because of their past fame, i see, for example, the new generations (now ****d) of italian girls are gorgeous and piggish as much as the famous beautiful russian girls, and moreover they are in a nicer place.

i see a lot of them (now ****d) wore from a bitching way to a emo / punk way, i heard there are some (hidden) contests in italian discos with girls doing blowjobs as many as possible to occasional visitors, i heard they are ready to give their ass just for pleasure.

maybe is that a new hope for the western world?

who indeed?

but that said, i think the thing that many on this board are missing is the tremendous opportunity in the amateur market. ok, i will stipulate that a lot of guys do not want the hassle of having a girlfriend preferring the simplicity of the professional transaction, but the conditions have never been better for finding russian girls to date. i am not necessarily talking about a one night stand pick up, but girlfriends you maintain a relationship with for sex and companionship.

i am sure i am not the only one on this board that has a stable of girls that he sees on a rotating basis. what a lot of russian girls do like is the way western men tend to treat women. of course, many of us consider that a flaw in and of itself, but the fact of the matter is that some of the girls i sleep with regularly tell me that they are "done" with russian men. what does that mean? who the fuck knows? what i do know is that there are about a half dozen girls in moscow and the provinces who like to meet with me regularly for sex. suffice it to say that more than an insignificant number of russian girls have a itch they like to have scratched by a western guy. and, lucky for many of us, have no problem with a 15 to 20 year age difference.

do any of these girls think that i am having sex with them on an exclusive basis? not for one second. but they do like the occasional dinner out with a small gift from duty free, maybe a little dancing and then a night of wild sex. what's wrong with that? not a damn thing wrong with that at all. like all women, russians like to be made to feel a little bit special and to be transported to a different place (figuratively speaking). the difference, imho is that the russins are not shackled so the same sense of "middle class morality" that seems to have infested the west when it comes to semi-casual sex.

so while the market for paid sex has most definitely changed for the worse, the dating scene has too and not necessarily for the worse (i am finding). these girls have better jobs now, have a better education, better clothes, etc, etc but still live in country where they vastly outnumber the dudes. it takes a little more work, but by-golly it's there. and i dare say it's worth it. please don't confuse this with the sponsor relationship as was very nicely addressed by our friend dogger a few days ago.

where to find these girls? well, that's a whole different issue. dating is dating. no different in moscow than anywhere else. got to put yourself out there just like anywhere else whether it's on mamba, the bar scene, the ice cream shop, or the night clerk at the hotel (doh! did i say that out loud?)

happy hunting.

ps. after stepping off my soapbox, i just realized that this is a pricing thread. i supposed this should have been in the "dating russian women" thread. my bad.

[Prosal]

What a LOT of Russian girls DO like is the way Western men tend to treat women.

Agree, but still, a Russian woman expects a man to be manly, uncompromising and direct, a behaviour in which Russian men excell, but that is totally unthinkable for many Western men. But you're right, when you combine those qualities with the qualities of the Western male (romantism, emotional generosity, witt, refinement, ect) , then she is all yours.

[Jake993]

But for the casual tourist, it simply isn't possible. The good old days of mongering in Moscow really are over. This doesn't mean there aren't still opportunities out there, they just aren't going to walk up and slap you in the face (or kiss you on the cheek). Success will require some thought, some planning, a little imagination, a little savvy and a lot of determination.

Strav, I guess you have gotten right to the crux of the situation. For the casual sex tourist, Moscow is an expensive proposition.