Other Swinger Clubs

[Dark Vader]

As you note, there can be good sex elsewhere, but have you had any one-on-one (or one guy and more than one girl) sex elsewhere which is as good as that at Mettmann? I suppose that at swinger clubs the girls enjoy it themselves since otherwise they wouldn't be there but have you ever had the attention which Ute has, that is a girl who, while enjoying herself, makes sure that you get the ultimate pleasure?

Well if you limit it to one-on-one then it's a tougher hurdle but Svenja (ex Sara PT) was pretty good as was Nicole (ex PT Krefeld). If you open it up to group play then you'd have no complaints with ladies like Zhuzha or Gundula.

[Myrrh]

I think if you ask any woman at a sex-party in Germany if she would like to do "Sandwich", she will think of two-in-both-holes. If you ask for DP, she will think about two-in-one-hole, if she understands it at all.

So let's blame all this on the language barrier and keep in mind that there are different understandings of the same terms in both languages with other terms too.

Two-in-both-holes? This is something I definitely haven't seen yet, but would like to. Although it would require the services of four very agile guys not minding that their balls were in uncomfortably close proximity to each other.

[SwingerLover]

Thanks, SvenFKK and DV for clearing this up in it's entirety. I had some trouble with the geometry too, but now it is clear. It hadn't occured to me that someone would do this kind of acrobatic position, which I have never seen even in any porn movies. Great stuff!

As to the DP-definition: I know now that in the english speaking world DP means what I understand to be a "Sandwich", one in the pussy and one in the ass. Which makes the term "Sandwich" obsolete in English as it pertains to sex. In every German porn movie, magazine or party announcement I've seen, one-in-pussy-one-in-ass was called a "Sandwich". The term DP or Double Penetration appeared only (if at all) for a Doppelstecker, meaning double vaginal; or Doppel-Anal = double anal.

I will continue to use "Sandwich" for the single peneration of two holes (puss&ass) at the same time and keep DP for two dicks in the same hole. Which I did only once until now with Nadine at Eva-Freundin myself and saw live only with Sexy-Susi and Lilyfick. So the use of DP for two-in-one is limited anyway by the lack of possibility to do it. There's no misunderstanding with "Sandwich" when used pertaining to sex. I think if you ask any woman at a sex-party in Germany if she would like to do "Sandwich", she will think of two-in-both-holes. If you ask for DP, she will think about two-in-one-hole, if she understands it at all.

So let's blame all this on the language barrier and keep in mind that there are different understandings of the same terms in both languages with other terms too. Like the abbreviation TG, which in German means TaschenGeld (=pocket money; pay for play) and in English means Trans Gender.

[SvenFKK]

So we start off with me on my back with my entire cock in her arse (ie. Balls deep) whilst she is sitting astride it in cowgirl. She then leans back and the other guy tries to get into her pussy by clambering over me to get there. Alles klar?

OK, I mis-parsed the first part, but "back, balls-deep" instead of "back balls deep" would have made it clearer. .

OK, I was assuming you were fucking her from behind, but in cowgirl, then I suppose the other bloke's balls could approach your face while he was clambering over.

There was some debate last month about the definitions of "DP" and "sandwich". I, in common with most porn sites that I've come across, adhere to your view that DP is the arse / pussy combination but Wikipedia (that well known arbiter of "truth") , takes the more pragmatic view that the precise combination doesn't matter and just so long as it's one person getting penetrated by two objects then that's enough to qualify. See:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_penetration

I tend to agree with you here; if one penetration is in the mouth and one down below then it's a spit-roast. One could debate whether double penetration implies two holes or could be two dicks in the same hole. I suppose that in most cases double penetration as we understand it implies sandwich but perhaps very flexible people could manage otherwise.

Ute was once lying on top of a guy at Mettmann, dick in her arse (I. E. Reverse cowgirl but leaning far back) and pussy open and looked at me and said she wanted a sandwich. I declined, however, not because I wouldn't mind a sandwich (never had one, though a few spit-roasts) but because I hadn't come yet that day and knew I would come too quickly. So, I let Ute finish him off then spent about 40 minutes with her for my first session with her that day.

Had I thought quickly I would have gone up front and asked for a sandwich and brought it back to her! Reminds me of a story where the manager of a rock band, backstage, said "the police are here", causing the band members to quickly flush all the drugs down the toilet. Then Sting and Stuart Copeland walk in. :-)

As you note, there can be good sex elsewhere, but have you had any one-on-one (or one guy and more than one girl) sex elsewhere which is as good as that at Mettmann? I suppose that at swinger clubs the girls enjoy it themselves since otherwise they wouldn't be there but have you ever had the attention which Ute has, that is a girl who, while enjoying herself, makes sure that you get the ultimate pleasure?

[Dark Vader]

We started off with me laying flat on my back balls deep in her arse]

You have two sets of balls, front and back? Or is that black balls? All the same, they were deep in her arse?

when her partner suggested a sandwich (DP) and so she leant back presenting her pussy whilst a fellow accomplice struggled to get a gummi onto his enormous cock and then tried to manoeuvre his way in. Much as I didn't fancy having his balls dangling over my face

If it's DP, then one of you is in her arse and one in her pussy. And his balls reached to your face?

I'm still struggling to understand the geometry.

So we start off with me on my back with my entire cock in her arse (ie. Balls deep) whilst she is sitting astride it in cowgirl. She then leans back and the other guy tries to get into her pussy by clambering over me to get there. Alles klar?

There was some debate last month about the definitions of "DP" and "sandwich". I, in common with most porn sites that I've come across, adhere to your view that DP is the arse / pussy combination but Wikipedia (that well known arbiter of "truth"), takes the more pragmatic view that the precise combination doesn't matter and just so long as it's one person getting penetrated by two objects then that's enough to qualify. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_penetration

[SvenFKK]

We started off with me laying flat on my back balls deep in her arse

You have two sets of balls, front and back? Or is that black balls? All the same, they were deep in her arse?

when her partner suggested a sandwich (DP) and so she leant back presenting her pussy whilst a fellow accomplice struggled to get a gummi onto his enormous cock and then tried to manoeuvre his way in. Much as I didn't fancy having his balls dangling over my face

If it's DP, then one of you is in her arse and one in her pussy. And his balls reached to your face?

I'm still struggling to understand the geometry.

[SwingerLover]

I only just got around to reading this extended descrption of a super party. I just RODed it. I particularly liked the detailed descriptions of the Spit-Roast-Sandwich-DP-whatever-you-call-it-Session. Too bad that those parties are pretty expensive for a SC (130 Euros for single guys) and only with Gummi. www.lecoq.de

When she was nicely lubricated I slapped on a gummi and fucked her. We hadn't exchanged a word throughout! This is one of the great things about swinger clubs in what other environment could you have this type of experience with a total stranger and non-pro?

To me, this is the regular way to meet women at Swingerclubs. First you fuck them without so much as a word, then you introduce yourself afterwards. Worked out 90% of the time for me this way.

One of the drawbacks of Le Coq is that the playrooms are spread out over three levels and so you always feel that you could be missing out on more exciting action somewhere else and so I try and make a habit of doing regular patrols and thus I happened to drop in on the S&M room in the basement and I'm so pleased that I did because it turned out to be by far the best encounter of the night.

Yes, this patroling around is something I know too well from Spermagames when they were in Reichelsheim. Here it was spread out over 3 levels as well, so you constantly have to move around to be on the lookout to what is happening where. The good thing about this: Everybody is always moving around, instead of just standing around in a corner like a stuffed dummy.

[SwingerLover]

Have visited it just the once a few months back now didn't think it was that great and also got very little action. May have been an off night.

Only know this place from hearsay. Seems to be okay; rumour has it that AO is possible and happening.

[Dark Vader]

I found this on CT dudes swingers club map.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...e71f5a5e&msa=0

http://www.biggis.eu

I immediately recognized the address: Hugo-Junkers-Straße 13, 41236 Mönchengladbach-Rheydt.

There have been a few different sex clubs at this address over the last 6 years since I have visiting the area.

I think this is a regular swingers club without hired women, and the price is 85 for a single guy, so its expensive enough.

Anyone know anything? Varenne?

Have visited it just the once a few months back now didn't think it was that great and also got very little action. May have been an off night.

[Dark Vader]

DV, I couldn't find your Eva report despite searching so I assume it wasn't worth submitting a report at all?

Not got round to writing it yet but SwingerLover has already done the honours.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1361703

[Myrrh]

After my mixed fortunes at Eva's I made the journey down to Le Coq in less than 2 hours thanks to a relatively clear autobahn.

DV, I couldn't find your Eva report despite searching so I assume it wasn't worth submitting a report at all?

[Dark Vader]

After my mixed fortunes at Eva's I made the journey down to Le Coq in less than 2 hours thanks to a relatively clear autobahn. On arrival I was pleased to find that the car park was quite full although once inside it seemed as if the Tardis effect was in operation because the club itself was relatively empty and those present were rattling around in the joint.

After changing I immediately went upstairs to take a shower and brush my teeth and was delighted to hear moans and grunts emanating from the attic signifying that action was already underway. Naturally I went up to see if I could lend a hand but unfortunately there looked to be a bit of queue which was unsurprising as the lady in question was a bit of a looker, late 20's and in good shape. As I waited for an opening another couple wandered into the bedroom below and so I took up a vantage point, alongside the guard-rail, which allowed me to keep my eye on both proceedings and I was now in the difficult although pleasant situation of deciding whether to stick or twist. If I went down immediately I would be first in line but of course there was no guarantee that they would be up for playing with the crowd whereas at least I knew that the girl in the attic was open to guests. These dilemmas come with territory when visiting swinger clubs and so after pondering for a while I concluded that a bird in the hand was worth two in the bush and I decided to stay where I was. Unhappily this turned out to be the wrong decision because after just two sessions the attic girl decided, much like the Eva girls earlier in the day, that she needed a break. Sod it but those are the breaks so I rushed downstairs to see if I could salvage something there.

Fortunately the downstairs group were made of sterner stuff and I was quickly rewarded with a doggie session to open my account. Afterwards, I washed my dick in the sink as there was no point taking a shower given that I'd barely worked up a sweat. I was going to go downstairs to get a drink but as I made my way to the stairs I saw that there was a MILF, with straggly blonde hair and wearing white bondage gear, leaning over the massage table in the small alcove next to the bathroom getting rodgered; so I stopped and admired the scene. Her partner was also watching on and beckoned me forward to participate. I wasn't quite up to it and so at first I declined and was gently chided as he stepped forward and showed me the way by shoving his dick in her mouth. Well obviously I didn't need a second invitation and as soon as he took a break I quickly swapped with him and soon her tongue was working its magic and stiffened me up. That was the prompt to flip round and take up the doggie action myself but it was difficult to get proper traction given the relative disparities in our height, she being far taller than me, besides I'm far too lazy these days to be able to fuck properly standing up. So she clambered up on to the table and laid on her back, with her head hanging over the edge of the table, whilst I climbed aboard and started fucking her in mish. This was much better and I pounded away whilst simultaneously groping her tits through the thin latex material of her dress and whilst supporting her head with my other hand. A tall guy with a big dick approached and she started tea-bagging him. When I was done I made way for someone else to have a go.

After that it was definitely time for a break and so I went down to the bar and immediately noticed that there was a new member of the bar team who was dressed in a delightfully clingy white string vest, minus bra and panties and which was barely covering her arse. A pity that those girls don't play.

When I wandered back up to the Stargate play-room there was an orgy taking place with a mass of writhing bodies intermingled in various couplings and barely a space to be had. I spotted a spare hole and so set about it with my tongue. The lady in question barely acknowledged me but I knew that I must have been doing my job properly judging by the way she was pushing her groin in my face and writhing around. I pulled her fanny lips back and sucked hard on her clitoris and then stuck my fingers in to massage her g-spot. When she was nicely lubricated I slapped on a gummi and fucked her. We hadn't exchanged a word throughout! This is one of the great things about swinger clubs in what other environment could you have this type of experience with a total stranger and non-pro?

This proved to be the start of a relatively fertile period for me as I quickly moved through a couple of similar encounters first with a good looking MILF in a leopard skin dress and then with a short bi-sexual blonde lady who is one of the regular attendees at these events and who is usually fairly wild. I fucked her standing up whilst she lay on the edge of the bed with her legs over my shoulders. The straggly haired MILF who I had fucked earlier in the evening was fucking someone else alongside us and she leant over to DFK my partner and play with her tits.

I needed a rest after that and so I went downstairs to go to the bar and get something to eat. The buffet was a little threadbare today, perhaps due to the reduced numbers but was still pretty good.

One of the drawbacks of Le Coq is that the playrooms are spread out over three levels and so you always feel that you could be missing out on more exciting action somewhere else and so I try and make a habit of doing regular patrols and thus I happened to drop in on the S&M room in the basement and I'm so pleased that I did because it turned out to be by far the best encounter of the night.

There was a small group of black and white guys gathered round a small, slim fairly ordinary looking lady with pert B-cup tits. She must have been late 20's / early 30's and was crouching on the floor on her knees sucking and wanking off the guys. I thought it was going to turn into a bukkake session and so I joined the group and took my cock out and soon she was slipping it into her mouth. We then moved to the hard black massage table and her partner put a towel down on the table and she knelt on the towel and started getting spit-roasted with a guy doing her in doggie whilst she sucked off a guy stood in front of her. The guy fucking her stopped and spat on his fingers and cock. A curious onlooker asked the natural question if he was going to fuck her arse and he nodded his head. He tried to ease his cock in her arse but he was too big and couldn't get it in so he gave someone else a go. By now she was sat astride a guy and there was an attempted DP session (or sandwich as some prefer) but it just wasn't working so we moved over to the hard backed chair and she stood on the floor and bent over using the arms of the chair as support. Her partner stood on the chair and she sucked him off whilst I took the opportunity to fuck her up the arse myself. Whilst the rest just jostled round and groped her tits and stroked her thighs and arms. She could take a hard pounding for such a small girl and seemed to be enjoying herself. These types of ladies are the prized finds at swinger clubs ie. Genuine nymphomaniacs for which no position is too much trouble. We then moved back to the massage table and she lay on her back with her head hanging over the edge of the table and her arms down by her sides and her partner fucked her. Whilst she was in that position I just couldn't resist the temptation of wanking off into her mouth and was glad to see that she drank it down like a trouper.

After this we decided to move proceedings upstairs to somewhere more comfortable and so she led a small posse of us, all stark bollock naked, up the stairs like a modern day Pied Piper. Fortunately, the Cialis was kicking in and so I was still able to keep the tent pole up and what followed was a stellar session which must have lasted for well over 1 hour.

We started off with me laying flat on my back balls deep in her arse when her partner suggested a sandwich (DP) and so she leant back presenting her pussy whilst a fellow accomplice struggled to get a gummi onto his enormous cock and then tried to manoeuvre his way in. Much as I didn't fancy having his balls dangling over my face I was game for it but it was pretty obvious that it was not going to work so after changing my condom we tried a different approach. I switched to her pussy and she leant over me presenting her arse to the world. I could feel her rock hard nipples pressing into my chest which attested to the fact that she was enjoying it. The other guy now eased his cock into her arse but such was his size that he almost immediately pushed me out. It's these problems which frequently make DPs such a hassle although we weren't helped by the fact that she was trying to maximise her sensory overload by trying to rub her clit at the same time. We had another couple of go's at it and at one point we had a double vaginal before we concluded that it wasn't going to work and so he withdrew and we tried again this time with her hubby, a small moustachioed white guy, doing the arse duties. His smaller cock did the trick and we took turns with first him fucking her arse whilst I stayed still and then me thrusting up from below into her pussy whilst he stayed motionless. I find that it's only when you manage to get this kind of cooperation that a DP session really works. She was still gagging for it and so her partner motioned for the original guy to come back over and stuff his cock in her mouth although it was slightly unsettling to have his cock whistling past barely inches from my nose. I will leave others to debate whether this is a DP spit roast, or a sandwich with relish, or a common-or- garden fuck but all I know was that it was a fantastic experience! When hubby had dumped his load, naturally he was doing her bareback, we swapped to a solo session and she rode me like a bronco rider whilst I grabbed hold of her tits to keep her in the saddle. A couple of guys who had been part of our group earlier on came back and I could see that they were surprised that we were still at it. Out of the corner of my eye I could see another guy getting increasingly pissed off as he stroked his cock trying to maintain stiffness whilst awaiting his turn. Now it's generally not good etiquette at these parties to monopolise a girl for so long and I realised that I was being a bit greedy but I was having such a good time that I was forgetting my manners. When I finally broke off I was drenched in sweat but I'd obviously done a good job as she gave me a post coital kiss in thanks before I went to take a shower whilst she continued her work with the other guy. Truly insatiable!

After this mega session things dwindled off a bit as the less committed drifted off and the male surplus became increasingly evident. I did several rounds of the playrooms looking for openings but merely encountered a raft of couple's intent on doing their own thing or otherwise known as time wasters and I often wonder why such types bother coming to these type of events unless they get some kind of perverse pleasure from frustrating the single guys.

There were a couple of marauding fatties one of whom, who must have been in excess of 120kg, was making it plain that she was looking for action and although I'd fucked her in the past I wasn't quite ready to go there just yet as there were a few more enticing prospects.

I stopped to watch as another one of the regulars, a larger girl with black boots whose laces were entwined around her legs, who was getting a seeing to from her partner and who was forcefully thrusting his cock into her whilst she lay there with two massive cocks in either hand. When he was done he started fisting her whilst one of the guys unloaded a large load of cum over her tits. The other guy was trying to do the same but couldn't quite manage it.

In the rear bedroom another lady was getting serially fucked by a group of guys and seemed to be enjoying the experience as soon as her mouth became free a snuggled up alongside her and she soon reached out to grab my cock and started giving me a BBBJ. She was still getting fucked at the time and so to make things easier for her I crouched over her face so that she could just open her mouth and I could thrust in and out. When the other guy finished I swapped over and fucked her.

I couldn't believe my luck when the nymph settled down besides me and I was hoping for a repeat session. However, no such luck as she seemed to have suffered a Damascus road conversion and had now turned all coy and just had attention for only one guy who, perhaps coincidentally, happened to be a friend of her hubbies and her hubby warned off approaches from anybody else. Fortunately the guy's partner was not so particular and she was still open to playing with the crowd and so I managed to get a quick doggie fuck with her before finally having to turn to the fatties.

I decided to start with the largest one first and as I said I've fucked her before on a previous visit and her pussy is actually quite tight but the challenge of course is to find it beneath the layers of lard! It is situations like this that the phrase a 'paper bag job' was invented for but of course you would struggle to find a paper bag big enough to fit her. The benefit of all her blubber is that she can cope with quite brusque handling and can take a good pounding and so I roughly handled her tits and arse whilst trying to maintain both traction and erection.

Her friend was looking on and she was a more palatable 92kg and so as soon as decently possible I disengaged from the fattie and approached her friend who was wearing a loose fitting dress and panties and was sitting in a gynie chair. She was pretending that she didn't want to do anything and gently shook her head as I approached but not too vehemently and the way she did so made it clear that she was 'persuadable' and so I continued my approach and gently played with her nipples through her thin dress and felt them stiffen with my touch. I eased my hands down to her groin and slowly ground the heel of my hand into her pussy and then slowly eased my fingers into her knickers and gently prodded my fingers into her pussy. By now she was beginning to get wet and so despite her continued faint protestations I eased her knickers off completely, with her assistance, then knelt down to begin licking her out. It was an expert job, even if I do say so myself and soon she was writhing around with all resistance ended and grinding her pussy in my face. When I reached back up to her tits she hastily pulled her tits out from her dress allowing me to grab hold and twist her now rock hard nipples. I wanked her off for a bit until she was literally begging me to fuck her which naturally I did and took great satisfaction from a job well done. When she had had enough she disengaged and slumped down on the bed to rest.

Her friend had been watching over us and when we'd finished she reached down to feel my cock and was surprised to find that it was still hard fortunately, or perhaps that should be unfortunately, the C was still doing its job and so she climbed up on the chair for her turn. I made a cursory job of it but not too enthusiastically before calling it a day.

Verdict

Well despite the rather disappointing end I have to say that all in all it was another excellent evening and a great event with which to finish my mongering year. A comparison of the two parties, Eva's and Le Coq, made this a clear win for Le Coq especially if you factor in my discounted entry price and particularly given that there was far more sex going on at Le Coq.

I had such a good time that I've juggled my diary and booked some new flight tickets to make sure that I can make it back here for their January B&W party. I can hardly wait!

[Dark Vader]

Been re-reading DV's reports about LeCoq, sound great, but on a B&W night do white single males get much attention?

Difficult to say really. Naturally with a B&W event then most of the ladies (or more often their guys) are specifically looking for the ladies to play with black cock but on occasions they are open to play with whoever's around. For example, at last weekend's party it looked as if the white guys were getting a fair crack of the whip but as ever with swinger clubs YMMV.

What I particularly like about Le Coq though is that the ladies who turn up tend to be much more liberated and are far more open to multiple serial encounters and/or true gangbangs with multiple participants.

[Jerboa]

Been re-reading DV's reports about LeCoq, sound great, but on a B&W night do white single males get much attention?

[SwingerLover]

Swingerclub Number One in 65428 Rüsselsheim, Karlsbader Straße 43a is opening up again on Friday, November 16th from 20:00 to 2:00 with a Dessous-Party.

This place was closed for a long time. They are starting over now with a new website and propably a refurbished place as well. Maybe with a new management too? When I had been there last, it had become more like a private venue for the owners and some befriended couples, where the single guys paid for everything and got one or maybe two alibi-fucks. No other external couples had been there anymore.

Hopefully things will start up freshly and they find back to former greatness again.

www.swingerclub-number-one.de