FKK Mainhattan- Frankfurt

[Optimist]

The only thing I am sure of is that there will never be any total agreement on which clubs are best for which taste. Just as an example, I really really don't like Sharks optics. I don't ask anyone to agree or disagree. Although if I meet a member in person I would explain why.

Some members say that people who go to certain clubs go just for reasons imputed to them by the writer. These statements are often worded in ways which carry implicit criticism. I would hope that we could all accept points of view as being of equal status, not as something to be psychoanalysed. Each to his own. Everybody have fun

[Sirioja]

From your post I suspect that you had a bad experience at Sharks. I find it very difficult to rate Mainhatten, Oase, Palace and World ahead of Sharks, they are all in the same class as far as I am concerned and I have had good and bad experiences in all. I would agree, however, that, generally, the girls in the small lesser frequented clubs provide better service than those in the mega ones and even though my experience in the former is limited my opinion is based also on the fact that I have never had bad experiences there.

I like Sharks for the club, foods, garden, but real lack of beauties compare to Oase at the moment.

[Turgid]

LOL It's useless to discuss this with tourists like you, claiming to be insider bc spend some weeks every year at German FKK clubs.

How many times were you at Bahama, Atlanta, Diez or Mainhattan? I wait for your answer und your connection with your reports?

Only for a really small club like Bahama. Ever heard about Justin, Sophie, Bianca, Misha? Quite sure: No! But spaming this board with your opinion and claiming these are facts.

And compare Diez and Mainhattan same level. Sorry you have zero knowledge of the German FKK scene.

Sharks is only a fuck factory, full of smoke and bad air and many mediocre girls and guys with low level behaviour and expectations.

For first class sex with top girls at a decent club atmosphere I always prefer Palace, Mainhattan, Oase and World instead of crap pound.

From your post I suspect that you had a bad experience at Sharks. I find it very difficult to rate Mainhatten, Oase, Palace and World ahead of Sharks, they are all in the same class as far as I am concerned and I have had good and bad experiences in all. I would agree, however, that, generally, the girls in the small lesser frequented clubs provide better service than those in the mega ones and even though my experience in the former is limited my opinion is based also on the fact that I have never had bad experiences there.

[ExpatLover]

I remember such beauty Alina at Bahama, or Dany and Georgiana at Atlanta, I would run for them now at Sharks which is a good club for me, but not anymore for beauties. Also no more Megan ex Sara Mainhattan level of look, nor Marina Mainhattan, at Sharks. Oase is higher for looks, World didn't seem to me lower. For sure Dietzenbach is just for cheap AO sex and Finca almost worth for cheap sex, not for high level, when I m really surprised by new Oase I discovered and really enjoy.

May be better than Shark but always the same girls around, I don t like fucking girls who are for many years in the job and got fucked 10000+. I don't pay for those kind of girls.

[Takedown]

You are right. The mainhattan optics is not as low. I was not clear but I intended to imply that for my standards, Mainhattan only has a couple of hot girls versus zero to maybe only one at the other clubs. The bigger clubs undoubtedly has more.

Oase also has a non approach relax area. From my experience, Mainhattan's upselling is the same as World and Sharks, not quite Oase / Palace level.

With respect to girls, it is a big big difference between Mainhattan on the one hand, and Atlanta, Dietz, Bahamas on the other hand.

I was at Mainhattan three days this week and the line-up was better than ever. Not comparable with the other clubs you mention.

Slim, normal and curvy bodies whatever your preferences are.

Mainhattan has a large advantage compared to mega clubs like Sharks, Oase and Palace.

A relaxed and calm athmosphere. Up-selling very rare.

Non-approach in the relax area.

I really appreciate this, since I prefer to have sex with girls in combination with a spa visit.

I have a very pressing job with respect to productivity, financing, profits. Therefore, the worst thing I know when I visit a club is people running around pressing me and trying to get me to a room as fast as possible and start offering extras, etc.

[Takedown]

Takedown,

I think you write a good counter to the mega club bashing as you call it but you start out here with a very obvious personal slap at myself and although you may think you veiled it you didn't. If I am reading it wrong my apologies but it certainly looks like a personal jab at myself and no problem; I can take a jab. Taken much worse. I'll take the high road as I have too much respect for you as a poster and the contributions you have made to get in to any mud slinging. You're a good honest guy so let's just cut out the personal jabs here and focus rather on the content which you do get to after the beginning.

to went for what we feel is better service, a more relaxing atmosphere and prices too.

If we are going to remain objective (which beats jabs and insults) let's at least cover the whole spectrum from optics, service levels, price, AO or no AO as standard, and so on. I will also add a lot of guys love to go to Sharks to hang out with their buddies and maybe fuck or not point being they aren't going just for optics. I'll also add there is nothing wrong with going to Sharks or Oase etc to be social and not fuck or fuck a million times likewise neither is there anything wrong with going to Dietzenbach and knowing just about every regular in the club and their story; I love the RTC clubs just not for the AO as everyone assumes about RTC guys but the entire small family atmosphere and watching girls walk out with towels between their legs and guys fighting over who can be next. Cheap prices. Listening to girls all howling and guys blowing their nuts. The list could go on and on..

Sure thing man, respectfully.

I think you openly declare your love for the lesser optics girls out there, a fact that you do not indicate as a point of shame. As such, my reference to guys who tolerate lower optics should not be taken as a personal insult to you but rather a reiteration of your own openly declared tastes. That being said, I'll reiterate that many mongers absolutely require higher optics. Those optics requirements just simply are not met at Bahama, Hanau, and Dietz.

Regarding why we visit specific clubs, the best service in the world would not tempt me to go with a girl that does not meet my optics standard. That being said, even if there are more service land mines at mega brothels, my best service at Finca was no better than my best service at Sharks, Oase, or Palace. However, I've met a hundred girls at Sharks who have met my specs and about 6 at Finca, and that's being generous.

I agree with you that boots on the ground is invaluable. Your local boots, knowing your preferences send you to AO clubs and small clubs. My boots on the ground that share my tastes prefer clubs with higher optics.

[Takedown]

LOL It's useless to discuss this with tourists like you, claiming to be insider bc spend some weeks every year at German FKK clubs.

How many times were you at Bahama, Atlanta, Diez or Mainhattan? I wait for your answer und your connection with your reports?

Only for a really small club like Bahama. Ever heard about Justin, Sophie, Bianca, Misha? Quite sure: No! But spaming this board with your opinion and claiming these are facts.

And compare Diez and Mainhattan same level. Sorry you have zero knowledge of the German FKK scene.

Sharks is only a fuck factory, full of smoke and bad air and many mediocre girls and guys with low level behaviour and expectations.

For first class sex with top girls at a decent club atmosphere I always prefer Palace, Mainhattan, Oase and World instead of crap pound.

If I find Finca and Acapulco to be good clubs warranting dozens of visits then I'm confident that I know the difference between a tourist experience and in depth knowledge.

You seem to have the impression that I visit a few weeks per year visiting mostly Sharks. I spend 25% of the year in or around FKK land, making 50 club visits per year, mostly at clubs not named Sharks. That's more visits and more variety than 99% of locals. If my experience does not warrant insight into the FKK scene, then I bow to your expertise and requirement of having permanent residence in Northern Europe in order to have sauna club knowledge.

Are you really going to commit to the assertion that aforementioned clubs do not have optic levels at minimum 1-2 points below Sharks, Palace, and Oase? Am I wrong to say that these clubs only have 1-2 truly hot girls working there? If so, then I bow to your expertise.

It is true that I do not visit those smaller Hessen clubs; however, my local friends who share my optic preferences find nothing there worth checking out. These guys are in my demographics of younger guys who require high optics so I trust their opinions over older hardcore guys. I get it, optics standards change as you age. As my senior, I assume that your optics standards have become more lenient over time. Expectedly, they are justifiably different than mine.

I did not mean to imply that Mainhattan is on the same level as the other clubs. I know that it is not.

Since, you listed Oase, Palace, and World as sources of "first class sex" then it would seem that you share in my opinions since I mostly used the term, mega brothels.

Obviously the opinions of older mongers who visit niche clubs have merit. But what is more useful information to the average ISG reader is where to find hot prostitutes. I dare say that it is more appropriate to direct the average reader to the optics and services provided at Sharks, Oase, and many NRW clubs rather than directing them to Bahama, Atlanta, or even Dietz. Imagine a veteran monger who has never explored FKKs going to Bahama and Atlanta. That monger's going back to Colombia, Brazil, or Thailand.

In case you cared, Yvette was at Sharks tonight taking a break from Palace before she returns later this week.

[Sirioja]

LOL It's useless to discuss this with tourists like you, claiming to be insider bc spend some weeks every year at German FKK clubs.

How many times were you at Bahama, Atlanta, Diez or Mainhattan? I wait for your answer und your connection with your reports?

Only for a really small club like Bahama. Ever heard about Justin, Sophie, Bianca, Misha? Quite sure: No! But spaming this board with your opinion and claiming these are facts.

And compare Diez and Mainhattan same level. Sorry you have zero knowledge of the German FKK scene.

Sharks is only a fuck factory, full of smoke and bad air and many mediocre girls and guys with low level behaviour and expectations.

For first class sex with top girls at a decent club atmosphere I always prefer Palace, Mainhattan, Oase and World instead of crap pound.

I remember such beauty Alina at Bahama, or Dany and Georgiana at Atlanta, I would run for them now at Sharks which is a good club for me, but not anymore for beauties. Also no more Megan ex Sara Mainhattan level of look, nor Marina Mainhattan, at Sharks. Oase is higher for looks, World didn't seem to me lower. For sure Dietzenbach is just for cheap AO sex and Finca almost worth for cheap sex, not for high level, when I m really surprised by new Oase I discovered and really enjoy.

[Kosher Kowboy]

I know it seems like it's the cool thing to point out the negatives of mega clubs because going to small clubs makes one feel like a cool hipster finding boutique places off the beaten path. It may even make one feel like a connoisseur. Unfortunately for this discussion, the fact remains that if you prefer high optics, you're not going to find more than a couple, if any, model level optics at Mainhattain, Dietz, Atlanta, Bahama etc. With the one or 2 higher optic girls at Mainhattan, I get sick of doing the same 2 hot girls over and over again. At least a club like Sharks gives optics minded mongers an opportunity to pull good service from a variety of hot girls. As for food quality, tasty food is pretty high on my list of life's great pleasures; and after vacationing in Italy immediately before hopping over to Germany, the food is certainly not "terrible" as many posters often claim.

The point is, this mega club bashing is only pertinent for mongers who are content with significantly lower optics standards. Everyone has the freedom to patronize the club style that fits their preference, but let's keep some objectivity here.

Takedown,

I think you write a good counter to the mega club bashing as you call it but you start out here with a very obvious personal slap at myself and although you may think you veiled it you didn't. If I am reading it wrong my apologies but it certainly looks like a personal jab at myself and no problem; I can take a jab. Taken much worse. I'll take the high road as I have too much respect for you as a poster and the contributions you have made to get in to any mud slinging. You're a good honest guy so let's just cut out the personal jabs here and focus rather on the content which you do get to after the beginning.

Although I may bash the Sharks food Lord knows how many times I have also bashed the food at Mainhatten too and much more in fact, joked of the shit sausages at Dietz, the food at BC is just average but I am not there for the food anyway. I certainly can relate to your comment about fine food being high on the lists's of the greatest pleasures in life and agree with you. I am sure you ate well in Italy as I did when I visited the country and hope you had a good time there.

I am sure given the massive number of gals in say Sharks vs Mainhatten there will be more optics and for discussion purposes let's just say Sharks has the greatest optics on earth. I do agree with Arnold that the LU in Mainhatten has been top notch and it has for the last year been better than it ever has been but ok, so the Sharks has the best optics on planet earth for the purposes of this discussion. I think despite some jabs I might take at Sharks or the attitudes there etc. I have also mentioned something to the tune ' as long as everyone is happy' and if Sharks provides you the optics you desire than all the power to you, pound away and enjoy the company of the Sharks. There are some beautiful ones, I tend however to roll more with service and the clubs themselves. Just me. My way is no better than your way or Arnold's way or Joe Blow's way and so on. Something for all of us.

You are right we all have the right to patronize the clubs we like best but I'd like to counter one statement you make that mongers who bash mega clubs are content with lower optics. I think you miss a big point here. I do not enjoy the mega clubs not because I prefer low optics but for a slew of reasons one being IMHO and in my experiences I find service levels much higher at the RTC and smaller locals clubs. I originally was taken to the Bahama Club by a Dietz guy. He is (was) an attendee of Sharks for years who went to Dietz for his AO. I mentioned once when Dietz had to close for a day why don't we go to Sharks and he said ' Let's go to Bahama Club, much better service and less attitudes. ' Of course that is his opinion but the attraction to the BC for him and myself or the placing of Sharks on the back burner is not because he and I wanted lower optics but because we went for what we feel is better service, a more relaxing atmosphere and prices too.

If we are going to remain objective (which beats jabs and insults) let's at least cover the whole spectrum from optics, service levels, price, AO or no AO as standard, and so on. I will also add a lot of guys love to go to Sharks to hang out with their buddies and maybe fuck or not point being they aren't going just for optics. I'll also add there is nothing wrong with going to Sharks or Oase etc to be social and not fuck or fuck a million times likewise neither is there anything wrong with going to Dietzenbach and knowing just about every regular in the club and their story; I love the RTC clubs just not for the AO as everyone assumes about RTC guys but the entire small family atmosphere and watching girls walk out with towels between their legs and guys fighting over who can be next. Cheap prices. Listening to girls all howling and guys blowing their nuts. The list could go on and on.

Although I am a fly in I got tired of hanging out with just tourists and I really took a liking to the locals and visa versa. I have learned more about my own likes, myself and IMO mongering as a whole by for lack of better words ' shutting my trap' and letting the locals steer me. Everyone often says the Germans are asssholes and the Turks scumbags however I find both them to be good folks (although I detest seeing pictures of the Gypsies boyfriends eating five star meals on my money) and I feel I personally fit in (although I may not be one) with the locals or perhaps there is a local mentality I relate to more. I am not knocking your style. I actually at one point of my life would only fuck the hottest girls in the clubs (Mexican Clubs, different place same theory) but over time I transitioned a tad as I threw much more than optics in to the mix. Maybe I think of mongering more like a pair of dice than a coin with just a head or a tail (optics and service only). So much more out there than those two determinants.

Your style is your style, the last thing I am going to do is take a personal jab at you, one can defend their position without shitting on another. If you want to shit on Dietzenbach as a club feel free but no need to shit on the guys who go there or the BC or Atlanta etc. I actually find them much more down to earth guys than I meet in Sharks or other clubs but I find good people everywhere. I will also add you have a lot of passion and put a lot of efforts and invest a lot of money in to your travels as I do and in a way I can relate how you may have taken offense to defend the turf you enjoy the most and I can in a way understand where you are coming from but the knee jerk reaction slam wasn't needed. Than again someone trashes my Gypsies I might do the same

Now back to some food talk. I was at Arabella and I was fucking starving. It was on a day everything was closed but fortunately my friend had some food on him he had bought at Rewe. He said he had some bread and fish, sounded a little odd to me. He handed me two packs of this small square brown bread in a red wrapper, shit was hard as a rock and crumbled. The fish was a large container of pickled herring in globs of a cream sauce. Somehow I was able to down two sandwiches than I fucked a Gypsy. You know what? I wouldn't have traded that Gypsy and disgusting pickled herring in for a free entry at Sharks and a 50 Euro BBBJ 30 min session with the hottest girl in the club. Just me.

To each our own. But if you want to remain objective and or opinionated let's do so w / o the slams and look at everything that goes in to this game, if one looks just at optics and just at service and ignores all the other factors IMHO they aren't seeing the whole picture, I will repeat IMO.

Respectfully.

KK.

[Craiova]

I know it seems like it's the cool thing to point out the negatives of mega clubs because going to small clubs makes one feel like a cool hipster finding boutique places off the beaten path. It may even make one feel like a connoisseur. Unfortunately for this discussion, the fact remains that if you prefer high optics, you're not going to find more than a couple, if any, model level optics at Mainhattain, Dietz, Atlanta, Bahama etc. With the one or 2 higher optic girls at Mainhattan, I get sick of doing the same 2 hot girls over and over again. At least a club like Sharks gives optics minded mongers an opportunity to pull good service from a variety of hot girls.

The point is, this mega club bashing is only pertinent for mongers who are content with significantly lower optics standards.

LOL It's useless to discuss this with tourists like you, claiming to be insider bc spend some weeks every year at German FKK clubs.

How many times were you at Bahama, Atlanta, Diez or Mainhattan? I wait for your answer und your connection with your reports?

Only for a really small club like Bahama. Ever heard about Justin, Sophie, Bianca, Misha? Quite sure: No! But spaming this board with your opinion and claiming these are facts.

And compare Diez and Mainhattan same level. Sorry you have zero knowledge of the German FKK scene.

Sharks is only a fuck factory, full of smoke and bad air and many mediocre girls and guys with low level behaviour and expectations.

For first class sex with top girls at a decent club atmosphere I always prefer Palace, Mainhattan, Oase and World instead of crap pound.

[Pessimist]

Generally, I agree. I said many of the same things in a prior comment below.

I like to think members who point out some negatives about mega clubs or praise the smaller clubs are doing so simply because that's how they genuinely feel, and not for the sake of appearing to be hip and cool. Let us hope not. We are all here to write about our genuine likes and dislikes, and this anonymity provided courtesy ISG allows us to express our opinions honestly. There is no reason anyone should fudge their real views, at least no logical reason.

But yes, smaller clubs will have their specialized traits and will attract their share of specialist devotees with their particular needs. But it is the mega clubs which have a hundred girls a day, more than a couple hundred in a week, and have the most number of high optic, young and slim girls. While some mongers will have more tailored needs, majority of guys are looking for mainstream things which include some kissing, a bit of BBBJ and fucking with good looking girls.

I said this in another post a few days ago. In the long run, the mega clubs will consolidate and will become bigger catering to the majority of mainstream club goers and specialist, smaller clubs will have their smaller fan bases. It is the middling, medium sized undifferentiated clubs which are in danger of being out competed and losing business and eventually shutting down.

I know it seems like it's the cool thing to point out the negatives of mega clubs because going to small clubs makes one feel like a cool hipster finding boutique places off the beaten path. It may even make one feel like a connoisseur. Unfortunately for this discussion, the fact remains that if you prefer high optics, you're not going to find more than a couple, if any, model level optics at Mainhattain, Dietz, Atlanta, Bahama etc. With the one or 2 higher optic girls at Mainhattan, I get sick of doing the same 2 hot girls over and over again. At least a club like Sharks gives optics minded mongers an opportunity to pull good service from a variety of hot girls. As for food quality, tasty food is pretty high on my list of life's great pleasures; and after vacationing in Italy immediately before hopping over to Germany, the food is certainly not "terrible" as many posters often claim.

The point is, this mega club bashing is only pertinent for mongers who are content with significantly lower optics standards. Everyone has the freedom to patronize the club style that fits their preference, but let's keep some objectivity here..

[Arnold15]

I know it seems like it's the cool thing to point out the negatives of mega clubs because going to small clubs makes one feel like a cool hipster finding boutique places off the beaten path. It may even make one feel like a connoisseur. Unfortunately for this discussion, the fact remains that if you prefer high optics, you're not going to find more than a couple, if any, model level optics at Mainhattain, Dietz, Atlanta, Bahama etc. With the one or 2 higher optic girls at Mainhattan, I get sick of doing the same 2 hot girls over and over again. At least a club like Sharks gives optics minded mongers an opportunity to pull good service from a variety of hot girls. As for food quality, tasty food is pretty high on my list of life's great pleasures; and after vacationing in Italy immediately before hopping over to Germany, the food is certainly not "terrible" as many posters often claim.

The point is, this mega club bashing is only pertinent for mongers who are content with significantly lower optics standards. Everyone has the freedom to patronize the club style that fits their preference, but let's keep some objectivity here.

With respect to girls, it is a big big difference between Mainhattan on the one hand, and Atlanta, Dietz, Bahamas on the other hand.

I was at Mainhattan three days this week and the line-up was better than ever. Not comparable with the other clubs you mention.

Slim, normal and curvy bodies whatever your preferences are.

Mainhattan has a large advantage compared to mega clubs like Sharks, Oase and Palace.

A relaxed and calm athmosphere. Up-selling very rare.

Non-approach in the relax area.

I really appreciate this, since I prefer to have sex with girls in combination with a spa visit.

I have a very pressing job with respect to productivity, financing, profits. Therefore, the worst thing I know when I visit a club is people running around pressing me and trying to get me to a room as fast as possible and start offering extras, etc.

[Takedown]

I know it seems like it's the cool thing to point out the negatives of mega clubs because going to small clubs makes one feel like a cool hipster finding boutique places off the beaten path. It may even make one feel like a connoisseur. Unfortunately for this discussion, the fact remains that if you prefer high optics, you're not going to find more than a couple, if any, model level optics at Mainhattain, Dietz, Atlanta, Bahama etc. With the one or 2 higher optic girls at Mainhattan, I get sick of doing the same 2 hot girls over and over again. At least a club like Sharks gives optics minded mongers an opportunity to pull good service from a variety of hot girls. As for food quality, tasty food is pretty high on my list of life's great pleasures; and after vacationing in Italy immediately before hopping over to Germany, the food is certainly not "terrible" as many posters often claim.

The point is, this mega club bashing is only pertinent for mongers who are content with significantly lower optics standards. Everyone has the freedom to patronize the club style that fits their preference, but let's keep some objectivity here.

Sorry to [CodeWord116] on the [CodeWord116] on Sharks party.

[Kosher Kowboy]

She is Laura? Does she still working at Mainhattan or other FKK? Very nice girl.

Hello,

I miss Mainhattan from last August, but I have been a regular there for a long while.

I was tempted to go in these months but I didn't yet. I would go only if LU has really changed with respect one year ago.

Did anybody get any news about Donna? The queen of the club that retired in September.

Thanks in advance.

Jolokia,

The girl commonly called ' I'd like to try her vagina' that Siri has mentioned is indeed named Laura. She is a fun girl but I have not seen her in the club the last few times I have been there.

Roverto,

Sorry I missed this post kind of drifted down but Donna has been there this year but I personally have not seen her myself only been told by other club regs she has surfaced but very rarely, even comes for one or two days and is gone.

Let us know if you make it to Mainhatten and I hope you are lucky to find Donna. If not IMHO the best blowjob in Mainhatten now is served up by Karrina and she really is a great girl not be missed. If you do make it here feel free to return the favour to the forum and contribute a review of this venue.

There is also another very beautiful girl who goes back and forth between here and the Palace by the name of Helena. Although her oral services are not as good as Karrina's she is total eye candy and has the tiniest pussy. She is also tiny and one can easily cup her fanny in their two hands.

[Ulver]

Aurelia from Romania has black hair in ponny tail. Half curry body. 25 years, 160 cm. Nice tits, but not extremely large. She will probably work in June, since she has apartment in Frankfurt.

Thank you. I think this is the Aurelia I was looking for. Haven't seen her for years.