FKK Mainhattan- Frankfurt

[Hessen Bub]

Romania and Bulgaria weren't EU members at that time, were they?

Of course they were not. They joined EU in 2007 without full member's privileges.

In 2004 at Atlantis in Altenstadt among 100 girls there were less than 5% Romanian and Bulgarian girls. Most girls came from Germany, South America, Caribbean, Baltic Countries, Asia, Africa, Poland, Hungary, Czech, Russia.

HB.

[Akibono]

They are neck and neck. So if Romania is poorer than Bulgaria, it is not by much. Maybe the average Bulgarian makes 10 EUR per month more. Negligible. Still doesn't explain the disparity. Actually me sayin that Romanians outnumber Bulgarians by 5 to 1 is generous. That number is much higher. Especially at some clubs like Samya and Acapulco which are definitly 80-90% Romanian. Oase (haven't looked at Szyzgies list), World, and Mainhattan are also pushing 80% probably, despite the fact that many will claim to be Italian or Spanish.

Romania also has a much bigger population than Bulgaria.

[Dutedrac]

I'm sure culture can play some role in this, but even in Saudi Arabia you have prostitutes. Once saw a documentary with interviews with a streetwalker in a burka (more sad than funny). The reason: she needed money to feed her children.

Romanians are in no way specifically different than other Europeans (let alone Eastern Europeans). Comparing "poverty" in Italy and Spain to the situation in parts of Romania is nonsensical. Note also that many Romanian girls are quite prudish and when they start out think everything is "perverted". It happens that girls start out not willing to give blow jobs or receive daty, as it's 'disgusting'. Just as many girls claim they would never do this work "at home", even if they could make a decent buck. Ask anyone who has been to Romania and tried to find working girls: not easy and it definitely isn't a good place for sex tourism. This doesn't really fit a "culture" that accepts prostitution. If anything it is a culture where parents choose to believe girls can make thousands working in restaurants and not to ask too many questions.

Too reitereate: it's the economic conditions. If Romanian GDP gets up to the level of countries like the Czech republic, you'll struggle to find a Romanian in the clubs.

Sorry pal, this is one of the most nonsensical comment I have ever read.

Unless you really think that you have to teach us that a girl is in prostitution because she needs/likes money (geez, who would've said that, thanks professor).

You have any insight of romanian, spanish, italian, eastern european society and culture?

I mean, apart from reading smart internet sex-forums or chatting with some WG while waiting for a room to get free?

It looks like not.

I do, for many reasons, and I can tell that the number and percentage of romanian girls getting in the business of course has economic reasons (eureka) but has also A LOT to do with the (low) level of education and the (low) values of the society they grow up in (money and appearence clearly in first place).

So, I suggest you do some more homework before you rate BS something that you apparently do not really know much about.

And if you need some tips for non-prudish paysex in Romania just give out a call (looks like you need them).

Oh and by the way the fact that prostitution is officially illegal in Romania has really no meaning. It is illegal in some way also in Thailand and in Cuba, you know that?

[PussyLiccker]

Romania has higher population.

[McAdonis]

I don't disagree. It is all about economical reasons. Years ago Poland, Czech, Hungary were the poorest countries in EU and there were quite a few girls from these countries. Now there situation improved and the girls disappear.

Bulgaria and Romania are the youngest and poorest EU members and that is why the majority of girls come from there. That's it.

I don't see too many cultural reasons or differences in Romanian girls to other nationalities. Roma are a different ethnicity, spread over various countries.

HB.

Romania and Bulgaria weren't EU members at that time, were they?

[McAdonis]

Depends on your source I guess, I see Romania poorer per capita over Bulgaria on many sources online.

They are neck and neck. So if Romania is poorer than Bulgaria, it is not by much. Maybe the average Bulgarian makes 10 EUR per month more. Negligible. Still doesn't explain the disparity. Actually me sayin that Romanians outnumber Bulgarians by 5 to 1 is generous. That number is much higher. Especially at some clubs like Samya and Acapulco which are definitly 80-90% Romanian. Oase (haven't looked at Szyzgies list), World, and Mainhattan are also pushing 80% probably, despite the fact that many will claim to be Italian or Spanish.

[Hessen Bub]

I don't disagree. It is all about economical reasons. Years ago Poland, Czech, Hungary were the poorest countries in EU and there were quite a few girls from these countries. Now there situation improved and the girls disappear.

Bulgaria and Romania are the youngest and poorest EU members and that is why the majority of girls come from there. That's it.

I don't see too many cultural reasons or differences in Romanian girls to other nationalities. Roma are a different ethnicity, spread over various countries.

HB.

[Free Dude]

Also depend on the distribution, in Romania there is a big difference between the cities and rural populations. About 40% still lives in rural areas whereas Bulgaria is more urbanized. Bucharest really doesn't seem that poor at all. But most girls in Germany are not from Bucharest or Constanza, but from rural areas in Transylvania (Sibiu, Brasov or smaller places) or near the Moldovan border (Iasi, Brailla, Tulcea).

[PussyLiccker]

According to this Bulgaria is poorer than Romania: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/1...9BB0DT20131212.

Depends on your source I guess, I see Romania poorer per capita over Bulgaria on many sources online.

[McAdonis]

According to this Bulgaria is poorer than Romania: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/1...9BB0DT20131212.

[PussyLiccker]

I'm going to have to go with FD. It's economic for sure. You can speculate other reasons, but they are to make money like the girls from other countries came before them.

[Free Dude]

HB, that's why there is far less German girl working. Few of them think the money / work ratio is worth it compared to Romanians.

Bulgaria is less poor than Romania, but yes they are still poor, that's why the second largest group of girls in the clubs is Bulgarian. Plus that there are about 3 times as many Romanians. Hell, prostitution is illegal in Romania (unlike Bulgaria).


Note also that there is a differene between Romanians and Roma, who might have a differen culture with regard to just about everything. But Roma can be found in Hungary, Slovakia and Bulgaria as well.

[McAdonis]

I haven't been exposed to Spanish culture too, outside of 2-3 holidays there. I agree with Serenda Lover the girls in Spain do not turn heads. Italian and Eastern European women will put on high heels, make-up, and designer clothes to go to the super market. Spanish girls seemed to care less or perhaps about their looks. And had some punk-type, alternative look to them that I didn't find appealing.

Italy is in serious economic trouble right now and many young Italians struggle, but they still have parents and grandparents that can take care of them. So the Italian girls are too pampered and spoiled. Romanians don't inherit any family money. Also, Romanian families over the last few decades have had more than the 1. 2 children that is common in most Western European countries, so even if grandpa had some money, it still would not trickle down to all his unemployed grandchildren. The moral of the story is that Romanians often have to fend for themselves.

Disagree with Free Dude. It extends more beyond than just economics. Bulgaria is also a country that joined EU around the same time, and they just as poor as Romania, but I'd venture to say the Romanian FKK girls outnumber Bulgarian girls by 5 to 1. Culturally, Romanians are just "hustlers". Romanians working abroad over the last twenty years has just become normal. Romanian kids nowadays are raised by their grandparents because one or both of their parents is working in Italy / Spain.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...work-abroad-eu

[Hessen Bub]

Technically also a spoiled German girl who is working as a prostitute to get the latest iPhone is working for economical reasons as well.

HB.

[Free Dude]

Plus Lack of education. There seems to be a never ending supply from Romania. It is not only economic reasons, it is also that there are people who have found out that there is a high demand for young girls in Western European pay sex industry and they are willing to satisfy that demand because there's big money in there for them.

HB.

Technically: also economic reasons. And the reason this works 'more' with Romanian girls, is that they'll jump on a chance to move abroad for a job (even in the cases where the job is different than they expect, which doesn't happen as often as is thought in my experience).