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  1. #723

    Shock39

    Visited on a Sat around 10 pm. 400 be Entry with 1 drink. Honestly, I don't know why people visit this club.

    1) The place is too pushy. I am one of those who never sit without a drink (e. G. , typically consume 2 beers in first 15 minutes and then at least 1 over next 15-20 minutes). This time the bartender lady would come to me even when I had two beers with me to buy more for her, her friend and then tip her. I politely asked her to fuck-off (had tipped her post getting my 2nd drink) Once I had finished one, she would just come and stand beside me dancing and showing heart. So annoying.

    2) The girls (or ladies?) are old and usually MILFs. You can get better stuff at Grace, perhaps? (I visited around 10 pm, maybe the quality is better later, but I failed to find even a single lady I would want to take home).

    3) I am an Indian by birth. I don't know why even Indians visit it. Right or wrong, we have the reputation to pay less? This is one of the most expensive places to get your drinks. 400 B + 220 be for your beers (other drinks are more expensive) + Lady Drinks + Bartender will push you for tips. Compare with Grace restaurant - 1 vodka, coke + Corona + Coffee = 500 B. And you can see your russians in full light. Or go to RG if you are into russians?

    Couldn't bear the old age and annoying bartender so came out in 15 minutes. Would seriously discourage.

    Safe Mongering,

    LC.

  2. #722

    Grace 2 : Carolina

    As Yulia thing didn't work well, revisited the place around 12:30 - This time took a petite russian blonde. Has a trademark style of wearing a cap and jacket without putting her hands in. Usual ST - 1500 bucks for the duration. Nothing much to say.

    Safe Mongering.

    LC.

  3. #721

    Grace 1 : Yuleia

    Was at Grace around 10:30 - the path to lobby didn't have many great lookers so went inside lobby. Not much crowd even for a Sat night. Had a good chat with an Uzbek girl for 15-20 minutes, who was there without make-up. Said she usually hangs out at Hyatt but today wasn't feeling so, therefore is here. Has been in Thailand only for 11 days, and hasn't picked the tricks of the trade yet, perhaps. Didn't look like other pros with huge tits and make-up. I was too drunk and just had a casual chat with her and wanted to call it a night. But she said she is out of cigarettes (and money) and really wanted to go with me. Didn't want FS with her so talked about BJ for 30 minutes for 1 k which she agreed. Went to my hotel nearby.

    Overall good chat. Covered BJ for 10-15 minutes. Couldn't cum. But she tried hard spent 30 minutes and shared numbers.

    Damage - 1 k.

    Safe Mongering,

    LC.

  4. #720
    Quote Originally Posted by Erect  [View Original Post]
    Saddened to see such criticism about indians, we bring business and tourism and export lot of service to other nations. Not sure how to cope or respond to such posts. I never saw or been discriminated being Indian film the last 15 years multiple visits to Bangkok Pattaya and Phuket etc.
    I mean no criticism of Indians as a people, one of my homes in the USA Is a very Indian area due to high tech industry and I love the food, and the people. They are always polite, law-abiding, hardworking and family-orientated. Those who have chosen to remain in the US are extremely patriotic. My sister's next door neighbors are from Mumbai. Their teenage kids were born in the US, John and Jenny. Nothing beats a barbecue on the 4th of July when Granny, who doesn't speak in English, starts cooking.

    But sorry dude, the Indians that I saw in shock 39 and another places don't know how to act in clubs when they start drinking. Maybe it's the fact that I am used to higher class Indian people in the US, I don't know, but if they acted that way in a club in the United States, they get tossed.

  5. #719

    Behavior issue sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    I was in Shock 39 a week or so ago. Indian guys really don't know how to behave in a club. Maybe they can't handle alcohol.
    Saddened to see such criticism about indians, we bring business and tourism and export lot of service to other nations. Not sure how to cope or respond to such posts. I never saw or been discriminated being Indian film the last 15 years multiple visits to Bangkok Pattaya and Phuket etc.

  6. #718

    Africa.

    Are the African girls still on Sukumvit road now?

    I go there over 2 week.

    Greeats.

  7. #717
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    .

    In Bangkok taxi drivers get a commission if they takes passengers to 'Shock89'. So they take Western tourists there seeking a dance club. Its an Indian Club. Again the Indians can't tell the difference between working and non-working. Saw one little Indian groping an Aussie girls butt right on the dance stage. Her boyfriend just pushed him head first off the stage. Sorry I laughed.

    .
    Did Shock39 change its name to Shock89 or are they different clubs?

  8. #716
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickc  [View Original Post]
    If you just read the ONE post before yours it tells you.

    Last visited Pattaya 3 years back. Been some changes since. Still Russian Tourists bringing money to Pattaya. NB All the Russian dancers are strictly above board, no take outs )

    What was noticeable is there's now 3 or 4 quite substantial Indian clubs right on Walking st. The biggest is Nashaa which has 2 PR areas where some Western girls hang out. Loud Indian Music and Indian men dancing wildly on stages. Just a few working girls. Not my scene. Those Indian Clubs would pack out maybe 2 thousand Indians every night. With these clubs theres a noticeable influx of Indian Tourists. Many, many more packing out Walking st. Some of them come with problems.

    Saw one drunk fat Indian grope a Thai Girl and then when she responded he tried to slap her. All this was right on Walking st. Wow. I couldn't believe it. 3 Thai Mamas came from no-where and he took some real kickboxing to the head and body. These women could really fight. He just wouldn't walk away and drunkenly stood there with his fists up so they did him again and again. What a dumb fuck. His Indian mate was trying trying to join in, I stopped that, I just pushed him away..
    I was in Shock 39 a week or so ago. Indian guys really don't know how to behave in a club. Maybe they can't handle alcohol.

  9. #715

    Walking st

    Quote Originally Posted by XioCat3  [View Original Post]
    I'm visiting Bangkok in October 1st week. Where can I get Russian or Eurasian girls for short time? Grace or Rajah hotel are not having? Please share the information.
    If you just read the ONE post before yours it tells you.

    Last visited Pattaya 3 years back. Been some changes since. Still Russian Tourists bringing money to Pattaya. NB All the Russian dancers are strictly above board, no take outs )

    What was noticeable is there's now 3 or 4 quite substantial Indian clubs right on Walking st. The biggest is Nashaa which has 2 PR areas where some Western girls hang out. Loud Indian Music and Indian men dancing wildly on stages. Just a few working girls. Not my scene. Those Indian Clubs would pack out maybe 2 thousand Indians every night. With these clubs theres a noticeable influx of Indian Tourists. Many, many more packing out Walking st. Some of them come with problems.

    Saw one drunk fat Indian grope a Thai Girl and then when she responded he tried to slap her. All this was right on Walking st. Wow. I couldn't believe it. 3 Thai Mamas came from no-where and he took some real kickboxing to the head and body. These women could really fight. He just wouldn't walk away and drunkenly stood there with his fists up so they did him again and again. What a dumb fuck. His Indian mate was trying trying to join in, I stopped that, I just pushed him away.

    Theres a cultural conflict there. The Western 'volunteer' police should be addressing this. I repeatedly saw Indians making nasty comments and harassing girls right on Walking st. Its not the Russian's or Expats causing a lot of problems. Maybe they need a Indian 'Volunteer' policeman ))

    Indians complain all over Thailand they don't get into a lot of Clubs. Now I can understand why they don't let them in) LOL. MIXX Bangkok rarely lets them in. MIXX Pattaya is sometimes that way to. Was in MIXX Pattaya last week, theres a mix of non-working tourists there. Saw three Indians who just couldn't understand there were just Russian tourist girls on a night out and kept harassing them. The bar staff actually had to push off the Indians to the other side the venue. And then they had a big angry sulk.

    In Bangkok taxi drivers get a commission if they takes passengers to 'Shock89'. So they take Western tourists there seeking a dance club. Its an Indian Club. Again the Indians can't tell the difference between working and non-working. Saw one little Indian groping an Aussie girls butt right on the dance stage. Her boyfriend just pushed him head first off the stage. Sorry I laughed.

    Excuse my rant, its just cultural. Thailand is not India. They need to understand that

    Cheers Nickc.

    I do have some PM info regards some non-Thai girls if interested).

  10. #714

    Russian or Eurasian girls for Short time.

    I'm visiting Bangkok in October 1st week. Where can I get Russian or Eurasian girls for short time? Grace or Rajah hotel are not having? Please share the information.

  11. #713
    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMontbarron  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I'm going back to Bangkok in 2 weeks. I heard about the crackdown on foreign girls recently. Anyone know if the Uzbek girls are still at Royal Garden Home and the African freelancers still work around Sukhumvit?

    Is there anywhere else I can find white and black girls working?
    Last time I was there 3 years ago they were at Rajah Hotel. This time I had heard about Royal Garden.

    I couldn't find Royal Garden hotel so went to Rajah and asked where the girls went to) the lady wasn't to happy about that. She said 'I not know or care'. So I kinda gave up.

    I'm Staying Grace Hotel so was walking up Sukhumvit 3 to Shock 89 and just by chance recognised the agent man from 3 years ago in a window over the road.

    And lo and behold it was Royal Garden Home Hotel. That was FATE. I carried on to Shock 89 = nothing there for me so back to RG.

    Good selection, great time, lovely girls. Thank you. Nickc.

    P.S. Theres a lot to be said for walking around).

  12. #712
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Sadly, I have found very few stunners in my almost 19 years of residence in LOS that provide an experience worth paying top dollar for. Ideally there'd be 9s and 10th that provide a complete PSE including A+, rimming, CIM, MSOG, etc; if one was willing to pay. Sadly so many punters, especially the newer ones and those from this hemisphere just really don't put a premium on performance. It is all about putting the "stunner" notch in the belt. If punters demanded performance, the gals would deliver. Most don't, so they get away with poor service and the scoff when a dude actually expects them to put on a good show.
    The "stunners" or near "stunners" simply don't have to provide a Pornstar performance to get sufficient customers. It is not exactly natural for Thai girls to aspire to be a pornstar style girl either. There is definitely a premium for their looks too. In a bar they can refuse a deal that is not good enough and simply wait for a better one. One of my favourite lookers, never went without a customer for more than 20 minutes, and she was disinterested in plenty of arrogant guys and probably disinterested if the guy was too stingy. So she had the power to decide what she wanted. Was a student and only worked part time. Very pretty and great slim body, plus quite good sensual dancer.

    Having a looker is not really a notch in the belt. One could brag, but no one necessarily believes or even agrees she was stunning. For some of us, a very beautiful girl is a big turn on. Makes a difference to our enjoyment markedly even if she could not do a good BJ due to braces. I can't be bothered to pay money to fuck fat or plain girls, no matter what their pornstar skills are. That is just me. My dick could easily droop quickly if the girl is not visually hot.

    Naturally I would prefer a stunner with amazing skills as well, however I think we all compromise in different ways. I will compromise on the price and also her skills if she is really good looking and has a good attitude to fun. Looks with no fun does not work for me. I had dud Stunners in the Soapies like that. Some stunners expect the guy to like her automatically due to her beauty. However those girls can be a disappointment. I think of an Emannuelle Soapy girl, who was skinny but her looks were almost a 10 for me including the face, tits very nice. Yet she was completely hopeless in the room. Not just unskilled, but reticent and avoiding, and no fun, certainly no kissing, no fingering (obviously), no DATY, possibly no BJ or so pathetic as to be worthless (can't remember every detail now). I wondered exactly what was going to get me hard. LOL. Possibly does not like Farangs. She claimed young Asian guys had no issues with her.

    I even find I prefer to repeat with girls with a very beautiful pussy. That could easily be tie breaker, over a girl with a messy pussy. So beauty in face ass, thighs, pussy and tits combine to be a large turn on for some guys, more so than special abilities. I don't repeat the girl with great abilities if she is not well above average for looks too. So it is clear we all have different selection criteria. I don't mind a somewhat puffy pussy offering some cushion for the banging. LOL I hate the feel of banging against skin covered bone.

    You can't expect everyone to follow you and put a premium on performance, and I am sure years of experience here is not that relevant to preferences other than we all get more fussy than before most likely. If the girl has looks and makes it good fun, it is enough for me. The extra skills are a bonus, but really I don't get much truly deep throat, no rimming, rarely get anal nor ask for it (can't recall having an ass offered to me this year), etc. Did not even get anal from a girl who used to give me that 2 or 3 years back (most girls are not really into it big time). Now she gives me what she enjoys. Still a face and pussy man. Just different requirements.

    Did I ever meet a really stunning porn-star girl in Thailand? Nope! Or even a 9 out of 10 girl pornstar? Who would that be? Can't think of anyone. Even 20 to 30 years ago I never met any porn-star type girls here. Thai girls were conservative somewhat.

    I would say that on average Farang hookers (in Europe) are more skilled (at least those with good looks that I would potentially try) but Thai girls on average have a better fun attitude once the chemistry is working (although this fun attitude seems to have reduced to fewer girls over the years). I like experienced girls or very enthusiastic newbies. Happy to pay extra for extended time with a really heavenly Farang girl in Germany on occasion, but standard of Foreign girls here seems mostly weak (I am probably in the wrong venues). A dimly lit disco with cacophony is not for me.

  13. #711

    Back to Sukhumvit in September!

    Hey guys,

    I'm going back to Bangkok in 2 weeks. I heard about the crackdown on foreign girls recently. Anyone know if the Uzbek girls are still at Royal Garden Home and the African freelancers still work around Sukhumvit?

    Is there anywhere else I can find white and black girls working?

  14. #710
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes we have to stop looking at things in terms of classical prostitution. The beer bars in Thailand are more a case of women contriving to have males hotter than thelselves delivered to their doorstep via the tourism industry. Those MILFs shag men who are most of the time the better-looking by far of the two. Never mind the money changing hands. Women are clever and often get what they want or what is good for them while men continue to see themselves as the abusers / oppressors.
    Its been that way as far as the sex trade existed. In pre-British empire times, elite level females were sold directly to high status males. The best bred were taught and trained by their mothers or head slave without losing virginity as she had to be sexually elaborate and virgin at once in order to get the best sale. The lesser females were sold at low cost, most were resold at discount or profit depending on who was the buyer, the least attractive slaves (or ill mannered) were sold more frequently. The highest quality short encounter was what you will get from a down on his luck slave merchant or hotels serving merchants and pilgrims. The quality of the females working increased with the status of the Hotel, elite level merchants rented villas or palaces and usually had their own slaves with them. Of course slaves (Military and Women) usually held a higher status than the peasant / citizen, who were basically a lower status slave of the state that had to take care of their own living expenses and pay tax if they have anything worthy.

    When the British Empire rose, they demonized slavery to shake the old order & ensure that the vast subjects of its empire are tax paying citizens. Nowadays elites retain the top shelf females via modelling contracts and executive 6 figure under desk jobs for attractive females in their prime. But of course this is the very big picture. If you want to do Kate Upton right before you die you have to go the Arnold Palmer way.

  15. #709
    Quote Originally Posted by JoseNosay  [View Original Post]
    If you are savvy shopper the deal-seeking pattern will carry on into mongering, if you don't mind buying at Top price, then you will have less time to worry about price.

    The same way an unattractive guy can pin-down a stunner.

    A repulsive hag can pull a Stud. Sometimes there is more to it than the logical assumptions.
    Sadly, I have found very few stunners in my almost 19 years of residence in LOS that provide an experience worth paying top dollar for. Ideally there'd be 9s and 10th that provide a complete PSE including A+, rimming, CIM, MSOG, etc; if one was willing to pay. Sadly so many punters, especially the newer ones and those from this hemisphere just really don't put a premium on performance. It is all about putting the "stunner" notch in the belt. If punters demanded performance, the gals would deliver. Most don't, so they get away with poor service and the scoff when a dude actually expects them to put on a good show.

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