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  1. #17403
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    First step: You got to be willing to let go. You have to negotiate from a position of power not fear of loss. That applies beyond FKK girls.
    Agree. One has to be willing to walking away. On non-peak nights, it may even be possible for the customer to put the WG in a position where she is the one who fears loss. If it is near the end of her shift, and she hasn't made her monetary target, and there are very few customers in sight, she may soften her demands. However, the customer has zero leverage at 8 pm on a Saturday night when a top star has just started her shift and she sees 50 pandas standing around you that she can hunt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    I had a Sharks superstar pretty much cut me off as I've scaled back. It works out though. This trip, not going with her freed up hours, hundreds of euros, and pops / finishes for new talent.
    If she is really that busy with much better paying customers, then good for her. Ideally, you've had her enough times that she is stale and the encounters have become boring. But there is always the possibility that she is deliberately ignoring you so you will react. She may be the one wanting to create a fear in loss in you, so you will scale back up.

  2. #17402
    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenKane  [View Original Post]
    She's been doing the same act at various Hessen clubs for about a decade or so.
    Hahaha, oh yes, the 'Egyptian' Angelique or Angelina or something like that. Horrible skin, pale complexion and very aggressive and persistent in her harassment of customers.

  3. #17401
    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenKane  [View Original Post]
    She's been doing the same act at various Hessen clubs for about a decade or so.
    We all know her, just a real nightmare.

  4. #17400
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo88  [View Original Post]
    I also was hassled by an Egyptian girl who, when I declined her kind offer, said "What, you don't like Egyptian pussy! And went storming off in a huff. Oh well.
    She's been doing the same act at various Hessen clubs for about a decade or so.

  5. #17399
    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheG  [View Original Post]
    Aphrodite is one of the most friendly girls at Sharks.

    Even if you had a preference for "egyptian pussies", you would have been deceived. "Pushy" Angelina is from Romania! Did she attack you under your towel?
    For sure and worked at World before, recommend you forget her if you don't want to ruin your day. More than 95% of the girls are from Roumania even they are saying Moldavia, Italy, Spain, it is the beginning of the cheating followed with no more 50 euro for 30 minutes, I don t care all those girls will come down to earth for sure and they are just prostitutes most of the time unable to do something else than to be f. The 10 to 20 times a day.

  6. #17398
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    The security at Sharks is actually next to the entrance. Outside, there is a door to the right of the main door. They left the door open once and I saw a couple of rough looking guys watching about 10 video monitors. Big brother is watching, and theyre ready to F you up, lol
    When there are fights at Sharks, they need to call Polizei. No fight Samya, or PHG, or VIP GT.

    Claimed story below, was at World, and I'm pretty sure I was the only member on that Saturday 27 June or 4 July 2015 night to see what happened: Just a drunk German who wanted and insisted with a girl, and she was right to refuse to go with a drunk guy. He just insisted a bit too much, so I went to her who was my weekly regular on June / July 2015 and he gave up with his beer glass.

  7. #17397
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo88  [View Original Post]
    Aphrodite is slim, with a pretty face, medium length brown hair, pointy nose, and very small boobs. She is very relaxed and quite affectionate in the room.
    Aphrodite is one of the most friendly girls at Sharks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo88  [View Original Post]
    I also was hassled by an Egyptian girl who, when I declined her kind offer, said "What, you don't like Egyptian pussy! And went storming off in a huff. Oh well.
    Even if you had a preference for "egyptian pussies", you would have been deceived. "Pushy" Angelina is from Romania! Did she attack you under your towel?

  8. #17396
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    And it looses them more rooms than they gain. I am doubting that this is positive for their wallets.
    No doubt. You are right for sure. But I do not expect Skarks management to sit idly by and put business in danger like that. Tides can turn very quickly for an FKK club with so much competition just waiting to take over the spot at the top.

    I am confident in Sharks soon being back to normal. I regret now that I didn't complain at all. At Oase I once did for the same reason but at Sharks I am more kind for whatever reason.

  9. #17395
    Quote Originally Posted by MonSooner  [View Original Post]
    That is what it mostly was. To put it into perspective. We are talking about the upscale girls like.

    Rebecca.

    Brenda and the whole group at that end of the bar.

    Estephania.

    Mickey.

    Lovely Adina who I have forgiven all her sins because of everything else she represents. Cuteness wins because I am a sucker for cuties like that.
    And it looses them more rooms than they gain. I am doubting that this is positive for their wallets. 100 e a session pretty much makes FKK mongering a no-go for me. There are better options elsewhere.

  10. #17394

    Monday night.

    Was in Frankfurt in transit from Asia to North America. Got at room at the holiday inn express just south of FRA.

    Hotel is only ok, but was not expensive. Taxi to Sharks was about 30-35 Euro.

    Walked in around 10 pm, crowd was ok, not packed, but a decent selection. Did not see as many stunners as last summer.

    Went for 2 sessions with Aphrodite (ROM) and one Dominika (Hun). Both were excellent, but were basic, 50 Euro half hour sessions. Neither tried to upsell or gave me an grief about 1 hour.

    Aphrodite is slim, with a pretty face, medium length brown hair, pointy nose, and very small boobs. She is very relaxed and quite affectionate in the room. Dominica has a stunning face, long dark hair, tiny boobs and a also a great body. She was initially a little less friendly than Aphrodite, and a bit more business like, but was excellent. She is only 20 years old. Fantastic.

    Overall the place really cleared out with a lot of girls leaving early, by 2:30 it was basically dead with only one or two lookers. Over the course of the evening I was also approached by quite a few large, unattractive chicks who seemed reluctant to take no for an answer. I also was hassled by an Egyptian girl who, when I declined her kind offer, said "What, you don't like Egyptian pussy! And went storming off in a huff. Oh well.

  11. #17393
    Quote Originally Posted by KenzoTange  [View Original Post]



    But do you get the same service at 50 euro vs 100 euro? I get kisses and sometimes want fuck their tits.

    Danke!
    To clarify, I meant cutting back time spent in the room. If a regular has been used to 1 hour+ rooms and I do a 30 minute room here and there, I generally get the same service. But perhaps you are talking about going back from 100 euro 30 minutes to 50 euro 30 minutes for the same service. I would guess that wouldn't work out well.

  12. #17392
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitumen  [View Original Post]
    Could your please explain more on the upsell?

    Is it the Mersi hu style of 100 euro for half a hour for suck, fuck, kiss and lick everywhere (so 150 for one hour).
    That is what it mostly was. To put it into perspective. We are talking about the upscale girls like.

    Rebecca.

    Brenda and the whole group at that end of the bar.

    Estephania.

    Mickey.

    Lovely Adina who I have forgiven all her sins because of everything else she represents. Cuteness wins because I am a sucker for cuties like that.

  13. #17391
    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamHuntley  [View Original Post]
    I would love to know your Monday experience. I'll be there on a Monday and Tuesday in a few weeks.

    What times were you there? Number of girls? Was it a buyers market LOL?
    I spent the whole day today from 3 pm until now.

    I estimate between 50 and 60 girls. Not well attended. Many girls claimed to be bored but that's what they usually say on any given day.

    There weren't many stunners. I would rate it a weak LU today. Sunday and Thursday were good but not great compared to today.

    When I just left the lady at the reception asked me if everything was all right and I mechanically lied and said "yes, sure".

    It wasn't as much a lie as it was a habit. Of course it was supposed to be all right or even great but it wasn't at all. By normal standards it was good but by Sharks standards and by taking my older experiences into consideration nothing was even close this time. Girls upsold every time. There was one single exception. Alexandra (it was the night before). All other girls I talked to wanted 100 for a normal room service. 50 now is just suck and sex, not even licking. If you ask me this is downright Amsterdam window style and bad form. Sharks was once amazing in that almost every session was good. Now it is not worth it to me anymore. Of course we are spoilt because of what we have in Vienna but Hessen used to be at least 1 level better. The variety of the clubs is still awesome but the overall experience is spiralling down. No doubt that this is a result of the no-condom-law. But in all seriousness, the condom is not the problem. It is the attitude and the price structure applied by the girls.

    Please know that this is not a rant. I love Sharks and being here.

    Also my last session with one Adina was a 9/10 session. The best on this trip. But why? Because she is a delight and nothing short of loveable. Of course she upsold too because that is what they do now. Little does she know that she lost money by asking 100 for half an hour. I would have stayed 2 or 3 hours with her for she was the best in Sharks by a landslide. At least for me.

    Such a sweet girl and intelligent as much as polite in every regard.

    I am positive that Sharks management will get this in order again sooner or later. From what I hear the law is actually being enforced.

    Whatever that means and however it is done I can only speculate.

    I am sure my experience sounds weird for the locals but I really couldn't believe the difference between my last stay here and now.

  14. #17390
    Quote Originally Posted by TankTank123  [View Original Post]
    The Kenzo Tange I met 30 years ago left negotiations to his son Paul.
    Very nicely spotted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    First step: You got to be willing to let go. You have to negotiate from a position of power not fear of loss. That applies beyond FKK girls.

    At the same time, if you've already set a precedent, I don't know if going backwards is even possible. I had a Sharks superstar pretty much cut me off as I've scaled back. It works out though. This trip, not going with her freed up hours, hundreds of euros, and pops / finishes for new talent.
    With haggling in markets I have no problems because I know the next vendor will sell me the same thing.

    Looking for FFK girls I think I get into critic mode and only want the creme de la creme. That makes walking away harder. But yes I should be willing.

    But do you get the same service at 50 euro vs 100 euro? I get kisses and sometimes want fuck their tits.

    Danke!

  15. #17389

    Explain the nature of the upsell

    Quote Originally Posted by MonSooner  [View Original Post]
    At the time I wrote it, there was maybe a 90% certainty. After last evening and the full experience taken into consideration it is a 99% certainty.

    Sharks is in full Oase mode.

    If I pay 100 for each session I am sure I will have a good time, though.

    One girl yesterday said to me (and I didn't even bring prices and services up at all) 50 is basic without kissing and licking.

    100 is still not very expensive so why do I complain. It's just sad to wave goodbye to the ease I once had in Sharks.
    Could your please explain more on the upsell?

    Is it the Mersi hu style of 100 euro for half a hour for suck, fuck, kiss and lick everywhere (so 150 for one hour).

    Or.

    Is it the case of 100 euro for one hour for kiss and lick everywhere but the reality is one hour is 40-45 minutes?

    Girls like 19 year old Helen insist on 1 hour for a minimum 100 euro for kissing to be included in the session for example.

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