FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[The Cane]

We'll have to agree to disagree on the first point, (that you are more likely to meet someone who is not "PC" in a FKK / brothel (ie FKK Palace) as compared to a "classy establishment" (ie. Buckingham Palace).

Really? I cannot believe you just went there! Seems you don't follow the news my friend. Buckingham Palace "classy" on the matter? Not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbtDybAjXAI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6kiIDBbm64

[BobNSuzy]

They matter! And although they may not hurt anybody physically, people are human beings not robots. That means they have emotions and feelings which can't always be suppressed (and shouldn't always be if you ask me). I know of one mean-spirited person who felt like it was OK to say whatever she wanted because she literally couldn't make a person feel a certain way (people are in control of their own emotions). That's true, but that doesn't recognize the way that life really works (we don't operate in a vacuum without reacting to other people), and it's just the rhetoric of people who don't want to be held accountable for their own behavior and the impact they can have on other people. One thing I've noticed in life. When somebody else is slighted, it's easy for other people to say they should just let it go. Let it slide. But then when it's them who feels slighted, all of a sudden they're not following their own advice and get all indignant. Yep, it's not so easy to let it go when it's you who's the target of somebody else's offensive words.

It is also easier to say "let it go" when someone else is the person physically or financially harmed. This could be more about financial harm and being taken advantage of as much as being called a name. That would be the case for me. The name calling would be adding insult to injury. I'm just breaking it down. I think my posts are being rather good. I'm not feeling like the offensive boogy man. I am out more money than this gentleman's situation for being slightly taken advantage of myself. I take responsibility for it and the woman was amazingly good at it. Some of the woman's job is to entice people. I want a woman enticing me. I do congratulate him for standing up to something inappropriate if that actually happened. I think it helps to realize that a bouncer is paid to be intimidating. They are managing a situation. Apparently, they were not siding with this gentleman. Personsally, I suspect the scenario is fabricated because I don't believe everything I read on the internet. That doesn't stop me from analyzing a scenario. I am a hypothetical. I am not a person saying offensive things because words don't matter.

[Sirioja]

I was surprised how shit the loud music was and how bad the show was, wasn't surprised by how busy it was.

Pornstars on party are always really not pretty and not only at Sharks.

[Saturn11]

Perhaps because you seemed totally surprised that it's a big sausage fest during a weekend when there is a party.

I was surprised how shit the loud music was and how bad the show was, wasn't surprised by how busy it was.

[The Cane]

Also, it's an FKK, not a classy establishment. The chances of encountering someone that is not "politically correct" is much much higher. Paying for sex like this isn't exactly "politically correct" to start with (regardless of what politicians actually do).

First of all, I don't believe that's true. That you're more likely to meet somebody who's no pc just because it's an FKK. You're letting hypocritical puritan society control how you think about it. That prostitution is always bad. I don't agree. And second, the fact that one is paying for sex has no bearing on how two people choose to treat one other. They can choose to be respectful towards each other or not. The Golden Rule. Treat people how you yourself want to be treated. It works.

[The Cane]

One thing that I don't think is over thinking it is that a bouncer's job is to intimidate. He probably adjusts his insults to the individual. I kinda think that children that did not learn that words don't hurt people were given a disservice. The bouncer knows sticks and stones hurt people but words do not. Whether or not to respond to an insult can be situational. If you are a mob boss and a subordinate insults you that may be grounds for acting. If your boss insults you whether or not you respond could depend on societal support or how much you need your job. If you are a mechanic and someone calls you a liar you probably only get upset if you are one or you don't value your costumer. It is really kinda ridiculous if you over think it.

They matter! And although they may not hurt anybody physically, people are human beings not robots. That means they have emotions and feelings which can't always be suppressed (and shouldn't always be if you ask me). I know of one mean-spirited person who felt like it was OK to say whatever she wanted because she literally couldn't make a person feel a certain way (people are in control of their own emotions). That's true, but that doesn't recognize the way that life really works (we don't operate in a vacuum without reacting to other people), and it's just the rhetoric of people who don't want to be held accountable for their own behavior and the impact they can have on other people. One thing I've noticed in life. When somebody else is slighted, it's easy for other people to say they should just let it go. Let it slide. But then when it's them who feels slighted, all of a sudden they're not following their own advice and get all indignant. Yep, it's not so easy to let it go when it's you who's the target of somebody else's offensive words.

[Prelude141]

I think he is referring to the little Romanian girl, the locals have warned me about her.

The club is full of little Romanian girls.

[BobNSuzy]

Apparently the bouncer addressed him using a racist term. If someone calls him a "chink" or whatever, that's a racist act virtually by definition.

One thing that I don't think is over thinking it is that a bouncer's job is to intimidate. He probably adjusts his insults to the individual. I kinda think that children that did not learn that words don't hurt people were given a disservice. The bouncer knows sticks and stones hurt people but words do not. Whether or not to respond to an insult can be situational. If you are a mob boss and a subordinate insults you that may be grounds for acting. If your boss insults you whether or not you respond could depend on societal support or how much you need your job. If you are a mechanic and someone calls you a liar you probably only get upset if you are one or you don't value your costumer. It is really kinda ridiculous if you over think it.

[The Cane]

Apparently the bouncer addressed him using a racist term. If someone calls him a "chink" or whatever, that's a racist act virtually by definition.

A lot of the eastern European girls are uneducated and ignorant (why they're prostituting in the first place) and won't hesitate to use racist language. Being "politically correct" never took hold in the east like it did in the west. Thing is they may say something and not even realize they're being offensive to the other person.

[BbfsOnly]

Any girl you accept to pay such a price for only 30 min will immediately understand that you are an easy pray. She will therefore not deliver and will be pretty much certain you will still pay the ridiculous price. I would advice indeed to stay away from the club and let people who don't overpay have fun. Thank you.

I think he is referring to the little Romanian girl, the locals have warned me about her.

[BbfsOnly]

Very pretty, wears red and sit at the end of the bar? 2 pigtails, she is very cold to speak to.

I spoke with her and decided she was bad to go with. This was back in August, it will be a few years before I head back, need to recoup some money.

[HammerTime96]

How have you come to the conclusion I'm a beginner?

Perhaps because you seemed totally surprised that it's a big sausage fest during a weekend when there is a party, and that this party usually sucks big time? Come on, everybody knows that FKK parties suck: long waiting times for rooms, many men in a very crowded main room, packed and dirty locker room, many mediocre women trying their luck. During the summer it's bearable because you can escape into the garden, but during the winter time it's pure masochism to visit, LOL!

There was a party last Saturday in Sharks with some German model / porn star Micaela Schfer. It was particularly bad, there was a DJ playing shit loud music then she did a "show" at the top of the stairs on the back which was her playing some more loud music and taking her top off.

The loud music I have noticed before during 'normal' weekends a few months ago, when they play some horrible heavy bass rap music. It made the whole club incredibly lethargic, but the incredibly slow bar staff seemed to like it. Thankfully this hasn't been repeated.

[Sirioja]

What happened with that law?

My first visits were before the law. The good old days. Then, I remember reading the law. I'd ask every girl I was interested in about BBBJ (and CIM) and some would do it and some would not. Some for extra, some not. (I usually want CIM because their tiny thick condoms never work out for me. But in times I didn't need it, some would only charge me the base rate).

Then, it was like every girl did it again and would be like "ofcourse" when I asked.

Did the law get repealed?

2017 law was just a joke, go to Aldi Dietz. Only registration work: No Russian, nor Ukrainian, nor from real Moldavia, just fallen from Tupolev can work in FKK, when some believe so much and think so few. Of course, some girls may feel Moldavian from roots, but what is written on ID, to get registration which is only for EU.

[Long420]

I am sorry this happened, but you cannot accuse them of racism. Did you see how many Asian people are welcomed and having a good time every single day? It's not your race, but your behavior was the problem. If you said 200, you have to pay full price. Bring a watch and discuss what 30 minutes means before the session. Some girls think 30 minutes starts from the lounge and end at the wallet locker, so it's like 15-20 min in the room (This really depends on girls, that's why you should discuss). Also, every guy knows that most girls overstate the level of their "GFE" service, but it's part of the game. Finally, this is a brothel, not a 5 star hotel. Most girls and employee are very poorly educated and they may use the words filled with prejudice. If you don't like this type of environment, you shouldn't visit here in the first place.

I want to tell you, its not about the money. You would know what am I talking about if you look different in a community and you are insulted and hated the way you look. The racism is not acceptable at all.

[Sirioja]

They only want to pay 50/30.

Can you blame us?

For 15 years, from 2002, when brothels were legalized, until 2017 when the German Gov't passed the "Gummi" law all basic service at the 5 clubs around Frankfurt.

Cost 50 Euro for basic service (BBBJ + sex in 2-3 positions) and most of the girls allowed pussy licking, some kissing, etc.

Between 2017 and Dec 2023 the girls doubled that price because the 2017 "Gummi" law states that you can't have the club set any price for your service as your an independent contractor not working for the club and you can't provide service without a condom! This allowed the girls to upsell a BBBJ for an extra 50 Euro as a separate service because BBBJ is now "illegal"!

If the prices for BBBJ + sex in 2-3 positions increased only moderately to 60-70 Euro, you wouldn't have that many of us complain about the prices. But some girls now want 50 Euro for each and every little extra.

And no need for the other members (Siroja) of this forum to mention clubs outside of Frankfurt that still have 50 Euro rates or the girls that will still work in Sharks for 50 Euro for BBBJ + sex. I'm an active participant of both, but it's now much more limited where you can still get these prices.

Til 15 March 2020 , usual rate at Sharks including BBBJ, DATY, better fkissing than most little Romanians now, fucking, was for 100/30 and was still very usual on 2021 , with Sena, Daisi. De. 2017 law was just a joke, except for registration, but still fkissing, BBBJ, even AO, on business. Rates really exploded at Sharks on 2022 , now the place to fuck tourists and bad value for money with going down quality for looks. Pity when staff made a lot of works to improve, but much better values for girls elsewhere in Germany and even around FRA. I thought these higher rates would attract top girls from escorting which is not so good in Germany, but same than at Globe since few years, no escort profiles except Sofi, but average girls coming for big money, many mostly warming ass with slow business, when not tourist in mind won t pay more expensive for lower quality.