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  1. #29077
    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude141  [View Original Post]
    You can be certain that if some girls start asking 200/60 now, it's not going to take 5 to 10 years for the new normal to become 200/60. It's probably a matter of months..
    Haha! Nah ... slow down a bit, will you. LOL.

    The first time I heard girls quote 100 E /30 was in late 00's (at Palace during the big fairs with huge crowds). It did not take months but rather more than a decade before 100 E /30 was the going rate at the major Hessen clubs. In the meantime 50 E /30 survived the 2008 financial crises, the "schwein flu", the 2017 law and partly covid.

    It was not a sudden change, but a slow "painful" journey (as far as I, at least, was able to observe):

    - In 2005 half hour for 50 E would give you excellent sessions (BBBJ / DFK / DATY / CFS) with the majority of girls. Negative reports were few and mainly about girls who would not french kiss properly or would not partake in public sex in the kinos.

    - Then there were reports about a minority of girls not kissing at all (or only in extended sessions).

    - Then there were reports about shortchange of time (30 mnts sessions lasting only 15- 20 mnts) among a minority of girls and / or on crowded nights. The majority of girls remained good providers (at least in a 60 mnts session).

    - More girls started to demand minimum 60 mnts sessions for GFE service (more difficult to get that in a 30 mnts session).

    - Then there were more and more reports about girls increasing prices during the big exhibitions at several clubs. A disease that had started at Palace spread to other clubs like Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan.

    - Then there were numerous reports about girls exploiting firsttimers with no clue about rates or standard performance, in particular demanding huge tips from Americans and double fees from Asian visitors with no English skills.

    - Still after the 2017 law 50 E sessions were possible, but an increasing number of girls asked for 50 E extra for the "GFE package" (I. E. 100 E /30 and 150 E /60, usw.).

    - Then during corona the locals visited the FKK girls at brothels with rates at 100 E /30 - 150 E /60 for GFE sessions. Thus this become the norm at the FKK clubs when the clubs reopened in 2022 after corona.

    - If you are not able to get great 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 sessions in 2023, I'd say you are doing something wrong. I suggest trying to play a little smarter rather than giving in.

    I never understood the doom and gloom speculations. It is not very helpful.

  2. #29076
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFinTuna  [View Original Post]
    Friday July 14th was a good day at Sharks, the weather was good and I arrived at around 7 PM.

    The lineup was as good as the weather with a plenty of girls, mostly Romanian lineup as usual but there were a few good ones even for my taste. There was BBQ going on in the garden. I helped myself to a burger and a few beef slices, it was ok but not on par with the great BBQ from my visit last summer. That time it was actual BBQ prepared by an external company who knew what they were doing.

    I only had one session, with a slim and very pretty brunette, Romanian yes but more Ukrainian than gypsy-looking. She had a very beautiful smile but a bit cold and business oriented once in the room, even tried upselling. Forgot the name. It was surprisingly difficult to cum, not sure it was a case of too loose pussy with respect to my cock, or too much lube. Perhaps a bit of both. In the end she finished me off with her hands and mouth. I rate the session as 4 out of 10. At best. I almost fell asleep after the first session due to an intense week of hard work and poor sleep, so I decided to leave early at around 10-11 pm. Before I left I noted that there were some new arrivals and the lineup was even better than when I arrived. All in all, better than I had expected.

    Saturday July 15th was a bit slower than the Friday, somewhat fewer girls and guys. I was looking for a particular girl I saw Saturday before I left but, as she was not showing up, in the end I went with a 23-year old Romanian by the name Miko or something. I was a bit surprised by my own choice as she is theoretically not my type. Anyway, I went with her because she simply made me horny. Turned out to be a good choice, she was very sweet and I came nicely in her lovely puss. 6 out of 10. The bar service was a bit better than usual, so I actually managed to place several orders before the bar went back to normal. Perhaps management stepped in when they heard that a customer had received too efficient service, because I had to wait like 20 min for my last Pils, and once it arrived it had turned into a Weissbier due a change of beer barrel. They also forgot I had paid for it, but we got it sorted out.

    There was some commotion at one time, apparently a girl had had an epileptic seizure. Hopefully everything went well with her.

    Girls were complaining a little about too few sessions, I think I need to back soon again to help them out!

    Tuna.
    The Guy at bar is good. I was told usual slow Saturday afternoon and not crowded Friday. Some girls are for 80/30 and 130/60 , many ask 200/60 or more and I doubt for wow in bed for most of them. Just have to find the few high level, but at least some better looks and more fresh flesh than at Globe. Some really beautiful naturals versus silicone.

  3. #29075
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    "New normal" means a "normal" working girl could charge that and that's false.

    Now for a WG like Brenda, she could get away with it, but it's certainly not "normal.

    In 5-10 years will it be the new normal? History says yes. Inflation affects the price of everything.
    You can be certain that if some girls start asking 200/60 now, it's not going to take 5 to 10 years for the new normal to become 200/60. It's probably a matter of months.

    The major problem in this industry is that men are just money pigs and happy to pay. Very few would boycott and even those who claim to boycott would probably lie when talking on forums like this one but still visit and pay. This is exactly what happen when the 30 min rate have doubled 1 year or 2 ago.

  4. #29074

    Frida & Saturday July 14,15th

    Friday July 14th was a good day at Sharks, the weather was good and I arrived at around 7 PM.

    The lineup was as good as the weather with a plenty of girls, mostly Romanian lineup as usual but there were a few good ones even for my taste. There was BBQ going on in the garden. I helped myself to a burger and a few beef slices, it was ok but not on par with the great BBQ from my visit last summer. That time it was actual BBQ prepared by an external company who knew what they were doing.

    I only had one session, with a slim and very pretty brunette, Romanian yes but more Ukrainian than gypsy-looking. She had a very beautiful smile but a bit cold and business oriented once in the room, even tried upselling. Forgot the name. It was surprisingly difficult to cum, not sure it was a case of too loose pussy with respect to my cock, or too much lube. Perhaps a bit of both. In the end she finished me off with her hands and mouth. I rate the session as 4 out of 10. At best. I almost fell asleep after the first session due to an intense week of hard work and poor sleep, so I decided to leave early at around 10-11 pm. Before I left I noted that there were some new arrivals and the lineup was even better than when I arrived. All in all, better than I had expected.

    Saturday July 15th was a bit slower than the Friday, somewhat fewer girls and guys. I was looking for a particular girl I saw Saturday before I left but, as she was not showing up, in the end I went with a 23-year old Romanian by the name Miko or something. I was a bit surprised by my own choice as she is theoretically not my type. Anyway, I went with her because she simply made me horny. Turned out to be a good choice, she was very sweet and I came nicely in her lovely puss. 6 out of 10. The bar service was a bit better than usual, so I actually managed to place several orders before the bar went back to normal. Perhaps management stepped in when they heard that a customer had received too efficient service, because I had to wait like 20 min for my last Pils, and once it arrived it had turned into a Weissbier due a change of beer barrel. They also forgot I had paid for it, but we got it sorted out.

    There was some commotion at one time, apparently a girl had had an epileptic seizure. Hopefully everything went well with her.

    Girls were complaining a little about too few sessions, I think I need to back soon again to help them out!

    Tuna.

  5. #29073
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaolegao366  [View Original Post]
    Ever since last year every time I looked at the the forum I thought the girl called Sabine / Sabina in Sharks also with a sister called Alina was the girl I met couple of years ago called Sabine who is Moldavian. You guys could see the description about her from the post I quoted from couple of years ago. Every time I came to Sharks and couldn't find Sabine I was disappointed same time I was confused because people just talked about her couple of days ago at the forum. Now I just gained better understanding about the girls since I just met the sisters at the club today. Just wondering does Sabine with bigger tits from Moldova still works at Sharks or she moved to somewhere else.

    Thank you.
    Blond tall Sabina with no tattoo and blond Alina, both ex World, are at Sharks. Amazing what can read here and better not to trust all writings, when because of new rates, Sharks attract some girls and is the best potential for rare girls in whole FKK land, when I found 4 fresh, who would refuse Globe rules, but I prefer their freshness when I don t need rules. Sofi. De, Kloe, Katalea if she put less heavy make up, Valentina, would make riots at Globe where papy towel would book them whole day. At Sharks, just have to go on days for rare girls, open eyes to detect beyond mass of little Romanian and then make the job like a man with a woman, when I prefer to pay 200 for fresh beauties than 300/60 for average looks at Globe, Swiss Dietikon being a better value. I don t ask, but for those who don t like surprise of discovery, better to ask for service and rate before going. As Western European, I m fully sure freedom make quality and GG with less rules is higher quality for me than Bruggen under rules, when rules there or at Globe kill freshness for behavior.

  6. #29072
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaolegao366  [View Original Post]
    This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?
    And of course you didn't tell the girls that it was your first trip in 9 month?! Girls are always ready to tell "truths" to naive men. Agreed prices before room, for example tell girls you paid 150 euro / hour "last week with that girl", instead off 9 months ago I paid.

  7. #29071
    Quote Originally Posted by LifeIsTooShort  [View Original Post]
    Hello people,

    I got a question about a girl I booked on Friday 1 November at shark.

    I really find her really pretty, she was sitting at the first small table just to the left near the entrance of the food court. She is blond, 26 years old, she has tiger tattoo on her right leg, a dog tattoo on her left leg, a lotus tattoo on her belly. She also have a piercing on her belly. She told me that she is Moldavian.

    She got natural boobs, pretty big for me since it's not silicon.

    She seems pretty popular, an Asian wanted to book her when I took a glass water before going up with her, and she told me that guy wanted to book her since two days. (Bullshit?

    First I would like to know her name since I might not have heard very well, I think it was Sabina not sure at all.

    She gave me a really good GFE experience, the service was really good for me, I met Megan at globe and I can say that they are similar in level of service provided. The things is she set the price at 150 for 1 hour all inclusive then 50 eu every extra 30 mn, and she told me that's the price for everyone with her. I also saw that she refused some clients. Since I found her face really pretty, I was thinking maybe she is a star at shark and I don't know.

    So to say what I would like to know is:

    -What's her name?

    -Is she a star?

    -150 euros for 1 hour at start, really?

    BTW I'm not sure but I might have seen Adelina from Oase (Cameron diaz look alike). Maybe I'm wrong but if it's not her, that girl really look alike her.
    Ever since last year every time I looked at the the forum I thought the girl called Sabine / Sabina in Sharks also with a sister called Alina was the girl I met couple of years ago called Sabine who is Moldavian. You guys could see the description about her from the post I quoted from couple of years ago. Every time I came to Sharks and couldn't find Sabine I was disappointed same time I was confused because people just talked about her couple of days ago at the forum. Now I just gained better understanding about the girls since I just met the sisters at the club today. Just wondering does Sabine with bigger tits from Moldova still works at Sharks or she moved to somewhere else.

    Thank you.

  8. #29070

    Just boycott Sharks

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaolegao366  [View Original Post]
    This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?
    But but but, I thought that the new rate was going to be 80430? / sarc.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Extremely retarded counter logical behavior. Refuse to give in.
    Agreed, but perhaps better yet: spend your money elsewhere and boycott Sharks, boycott Germany or even boycott Europe. Especially if you travel all the way to Germany from overseas just to fuck some overhyped WGs, then it really shouldn't be too difficult in selecting a different country or perhaps even an entirely different continent.

    Instead of going for a large quantity of girls who provide very questionable and mediocre 'service' for stratospheric prices, perhaps it's now time to look elsewhere?

    For example: Switzerland is more expensive (although with the increased rates and deteriorated 'service' at Sharks, this price gap has significantly narrowed), but then go for far higher quality sessions and make a compromise to go with perhaps fewer girls, instead of continuing to pay more and more for shitty service in Germany? When spending approximately 500 Euros / CHF would you rather have 3 great GFE or PSE sessions in Switzerland, or 5 mediocre sessions in Germany?

    When counting all the money you lose on shitty sessions in Germany, perhaps Switzerland is just as expensive (or cheap, depending on your viewpoint) as Germany, but without the hassle?

    A simple calculation assuming a 30 minute standard session and assuming 1 CHF = 1 Euro, which isn't exactly true, but for rough calculation it will suffice. In Globe you fuck 5 random optically attractive girls at 150 CHF which costs you 750 CHF but in return you get 5 great GFE or PSE sessions with real kissing, fingering, licking etc. In Sharks you fuck 5 optically attractive random girls for 100 Euros each for a total of 500 Euros, but 3 provide a ice cold mechanical service with no kissing, no fingering, just a Laufhaus fuck & suck with too much lube making it hard to cum, 1 girl provides a reasonable service with some very light kissing (no tongue) and no fingering, and 1 girl provides service on the same level as Globe. Basically you're paying 250 Euros / CHF per session at Sharks for service that is either reasonable or service that equals that of ANY random girl at Globe. At Sharks you're basically throwing away 300 Euros on shitty sessions in order to find the 2 girls that provide a reasonable to good service.

    Sure, reports here about girls can help, but as always: YMMV, and the very few good girls are sometimes more difficult find or book, or worse, they might not even be working that particular week when you're visiting. I think most regular visitors of Sharks agree on two things: 1) it's becoming more and more expensive, and 2) consistently good service is more and more difficult to find.

    I can't (yet) speak for other clubs in Switzerland, and sure, Globe has a lot of strange rules and policies, but so far I've always have had a 100% satisfaction rate with randomly picked girls (purely by optics) when visiting Globe. I can't say the same for Sharks where you're more or less playing Russian Roulette when picking a random girl you don't know and haven't fucked before.

  9. #29069
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaolegao366  [View Original Post]
    This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?
    "New normal" means a "normal" working girl could charge that and that's false.

    Now for a WG like Brenda, she could get away with it, but it's certainly not "normal.”

    In 5-10 years will it be the new normal? History says yes. Inflation affects the price of everything.

  10. #29068
    Quote Originally Posted by David1266  [View Original Post]
    This is correct. It really depends on club. At Samya, they are trying to enforce 50 E /30 min rule, so many popular girls demand 30-50 E for touching or kissing breast. You have to ask what's included in at the beginning.
    Unfortunately, Samya became upselling land. You get nothing interesting for 50 = CBJ and Turkish or Asian fucking and all is for extra. I like friendly staff, but level is now not for me.

  11. #29067
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    This is not true, but times are tough for the girls since they jacked the price up to 100/30 and 150/60. The prices have to come down a bit to 75/30. But instead some girls are trying to compensate for bad business by jacking up prices more. Extremely retarded counter logical behavior. Refuse to give in.
    Really kissing is not so standard for 100/30 or 150/60 , or have to grocer, what I refuse, I prefer not to insist and save my money from disappointment of average, when I want only excellence and I sometimes found at Sharks since October. One extreme GFE twice for 100/40 when all went so fast with her. One lowered down 150/60 after our 200/60 discovery when she could judge and wanted we repeat. One didn t care about time, under my way to take care of her, so really fresh GFE. Beyond the mass, few rare at Sharks. Sofi. De from Rhur escorting is back, for sure I would have repeated with her for 150/60 , but not her rate.

  12. #29066
    Quote Originally Posted by David1266  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know an Ukrainian girl named Lerira or something (I believe she is Romanian because Russians / Ukranians at FKK are usually Romanian), brown hair with pale skin, slim, A-cup, who sits at the left side of the bar from front near restaurant? Does she still work at Sharks? She is not listed in the FFM96 list above, so she may not be regular. Thank you.
    A real Ukrainian speaking Russian and tornado hurricane in bed, even 2 with her friend, but both not slim and other names. On the other hand, pretty, full natural, immaculate Kiti was never Russian but Romanian.

  13. #29065

    Not true

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaolegao366  [View Original Post]
    This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?
    This is not true, but times are tough for the girls since they jacked the price up to 100/30 and 150/60. The prices have to come down a bit to 75/30. But instead some girls are trying to compensate for bad business by jacking up prices more. Extremely retarded counter logical behavior. Refuse to give in.

  14. #29064
    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenKane  [View Original Post]
    Ah Germany; where the customer is a mere inconvenience...
    From extensive experience with Germans and Germany: the restaurants should be forced to have process descriptions for how to do service. Then you would have a valid claim that this was violated.

    They won't understand that the customer was inconvenienced but they understand that they broke the rules.

  15. #29063
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    I lived for 10 years in Germany and this happened to me in Germany as well plenty of time. Basically you (= the customer) has to beg to pay, and beg to leave your money with them. It's an upside down world, but this is what decades of socialism (strong labour rights) and government micromanagement has achieved: there is ZERO incentive for employees to be nice to the customer and many business owners have adopted a similar mentality because the bureaucratic and fiscal hurdles for a competitor to open a competing business are so high.
    Ah Germany; where the customer is a mere inconvenience...

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