FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Willyboy]

Yesterday, I was visit this club. End did control about time that girls going to room with costumers. In lees than 10 minutes room door again open. (4 different girl) One girl making 3 costumers ready in less than 30 minutes. Taxi for 11 euro return to railway. Going with bus to this club. Intercity hotel is good option (60 euro).

[Pessimist]

True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?

Even the prettiest girl gets rejected several times in an FKK. If rejection avoidance is the most important criterion a girl cannot work in FKK clubs.

In theory you are right that girls should stay as pretty and healthy as possible for business sustainability reasons. But many of them follow a different path and try to extract the maximum possible from uninformed, gullible mongers, especially of Asian persuasion as opposed to improving the "product".

[Gino02]

The product. Here, it's their body. More personal than any sales job selling an inanimate object or service, no?

True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?

[Sirioja]

Like dogs, 7 years for each year for us, and with cigarettes which are a drug. With my girls, when they smoke, I often take their cigarettes, sometimes even in their bag, then they ask me to give them back, they need so much, real drug, when no cocaine.

Very stressful and hard for body and mind job for girls who are around 20 . When they go with a new client, they don't know what will happen, so when they found a good client, they are welcoming to repeat. After problems with Ariana, Megan asked me to start her day with me, she knew it would be a safe start and she would pay her entry and night only with me. Maybe why some run for Asians, because usually easy and safe, when some girls prefer to avoid night clients and not only drunk. For some, like Kate, worst is to wait when no client go to her, fortunately for her, not often, she may be the busiest at GT. Some girls say: some days are good, some days are bad, as told me Melissa. Some girls even ask for advises when they trust us. Can be a little bit proud for how Megan or Kate trust me.

[Rocky V]

I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.

Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment..

Yes, I had the same feedback by talking to FKK girls about smoking and stress. In some extreme cases, they even get into serious eating disorders and they look very sick. Paloma. Ro, for example, used to be a great beauty but now she is skin and bones and I feel sorry for her. If she starts eating again, I'm sure she will be beautiful again.

Some top girls, like Melissa. Ro, they have very high budget targets around 1 k / day and I believe she reaches it most of the days. However, I keep seeing girls who very rarely get a sessions and I wonder if they have someone else paying their entrance fee.

Yes, the reasons why many girls start doing this job can be different. One girl once told me he has to support his father, so she regularly sends him money. Other girls with low education are drawn into the business by 'boyfriends' because that is a quick way to get money fast and maybe open their own business at some point.

Rock.

[Sirioja]

I believe Mr. Ho was only referring to the pounding. Which I don't really believe in.

But the smoking and sitting and waiting on the other hand. Some of my favourite girls seems to work less, but spend time at the gym instead. Like Eleny at Oceans and Lorena at Wellcum for example. I don't know how the economics of that works out, but I certainly prefer it. Too bad girls like are a drop in the sea. But maybe it only works out for some also.

Some turn around hunting, to stay fit with firm ass and beautiful legs, but they have pain in feet. Some make fat on ass, sitting smoking, rubbing ass on stool or couch but this is not a massage and blood don t move enough and teeth become yellow or dark. They lose their beauty for those who are pretty, making such money. Some spend their money for silicon, or Botox, or acid, or cocaine, and they will get lower business after like Roxana did, or will become monsters like at Wellcum, looking now like Sylvana daughter, when she was cute full natural with perfect firm small tits. A real pity, I was sad to see such look, and of course couldn't return with her, even I know the fire in bed she is, but after my visit at Globe on 1 August, I made a violent allergies to plastic = silicon, Botox.

[Ulver]

But how is it different compared to any other sales job?

Cause they sell themselves not a vacuum cleaner. If you reject you reject them as a person not their product.

[WorldPeaceNow]

But how is it different compared to any other sales job?

The product. Here, it's their body. More personal than any sales job selling an inanimate object or service, no?

[Gino02]

Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.

But how is it different compared to any other sales job?

[Sirioja]

The whole of the bar area is closed off which prevents people walking around the now demolished bar.

If you want a drink you must go outside.

Many girls left early bitterly complaining about the temporary set up.

However the girls who remained got a lot of business because of the limited availability.

There was no discount on Monday's entrance fee.

No 45 if you give discount ticket? And they give you back a new one for next Monday or Tuesday, when club is reduced by works. Where to prepare marathon if can't turn for 15 hours around the bar, looking for a so rare beauty. Sharks is good for club improvements since I discovered on beginning of 2014, but beauties are more important.

[Pistons]

Maybe this is why MR. HO said that their bones also get loose and their ass gets bigger! LOL.

I believe Mr. Ho was only referring to the pounding. Which I don't really believe in.

But the smoking and sitting and waiting on the other hand. Some of my favourite girls seems to work less, but spend time at the gym instead. Like Eleny at Oceans and Lorena at Wellcum for example. I don't know how the economics of that works out, but I certainly prefer it. Too bad girls like are a drop in the sea. But maybe it only works out for some also.

[Canary]

That's not good.

Anyone know which other parts of the club are closed off and if there are any discounts of the entry fee as result of the inconvenience?

Also anyone know if Brenda is still around?

Thanks. Howie.

The whole of the bar area is closed off which prevents people walking around the now demolished bar.

If you want a drink you must go outside.

Many girls left early bitterly complaining about the temporary set up.

However the girls who remained got a lot of business because of the limited availability.

There was no discount on Monday's entrance fee.

[Sirioja]

I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.

Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.

Like dogs, 7 years for each year for us, and with cigarettes which are a drug. With my girls, when they smoke, I often take their cigarettes, sometimes even in their bag, then they ask me to give them back, they need so much, real drug, when no cocaine.

[Kosher Kowboy]

I am every months in Frankfurt and also in the Bahnhof Viertel by night, but for sure you know better than I what is happening there. Just a small info, are you aware that every months the Turkish owner of the restaurant in this place are going to the mayor office to complain about what is happening in that place and how it is negatively impacting their long time business.

Are you talking about Mamaris or another Turkish place? The cash only place (tax vashing machine) with long lines often, tables full raking in the dough even during the day. I can only assume you are talking about another place as Mamaris just underwent an extensive remodel and business is booming; that remodel wasn't cheap at all. In fact 'business is so bad' they were able to afford to close down make no income for close to two months, stomach the hit and now business seems better than ever!

Stop in next time and take a peak when you pay at the cash register drawer when they give you change, every slot is overflowing with bills although the 100's they put in another spot. That owner isn't hurting one bit. FYI the owner is a German of Turkish decent. It is a family run business. Very nice guys. ' The owner of the Turkish restaurant' would be a much more proper way to phrase your thoughts.

I eat there quite often, any of the rift raft comes in that place or tries to sit at a table they are asked to leave and / or removed immediately, cops there in seconds. That place is a cash cow. Perhaps you should stop in and try their Lamb soup and mixed grill platter sometime, sometimes they even have Goulash the best I have had yet in Germany but business is 'so bad' they usually run out by 9 or 10 PM at the latest.

Places don't remodel when the long term outlook is bad. They relocate. Or close.

[Sirioja]

Dangerous? Any mongers here been robbed or hurt in the RLD? If so I missed the post. Perhaps you are just not one who deals well with folks blocking your path. Do like an American football player. When the defender blocks your path you spin right or left now you are 1-2 feet away from either side of them and continue forward. FYI sometimes it is best not to say ' not interested' as that acknowledges them, just ignore them if they get pushy verbally get pushy back. ' Man up' as they say.

Now I have seen a fight, usually always the junkies and how can you spot an ' immigrant'; how do you know they are not a German citizen second or third generation as German as the white man? That is quite a stretch to think because one has darker skin they are an illegal. This is like I looking at a Mexican in TX and racially profiling them as being an illegal alien when they are just as much a US citizen as I am some very hard working good people just raising a family in a land of opportunity..

I agree with you many Turkish are nice, like Samya staff, some are courageous, but not what I hear from girls in many clubs. Of course, if You speak to girls who work in clubs where Turkish clients make business, girls don t have choice, but many girls prefer to avoid them, with my little experience in FKK land.

I was also very surprised about Albanians I met in Zurich Polizei jail, they were there for dealing drug, waiting to be sent off Switzerland to Albania via Belgrad and were sad to lose their good business making good money with Swiss clients, especially in Zurich, but they were amazed to see a devil insulting Kantonal polizei or Swiss immigration polizei, sending them back my foods, so Albanians asked me: can we get your foods, they explained me go fast from Amsterdam through Germany and through Albanian holes on border. Switzerland learned me to ski when I was a child from 8 to 14 yo, Swiss administration learned me to learn from Albanian dealers, thanks to Swiss administration. Of course, I never made damage to anybody in Switzerland, I just will always refuse to be fucked by Swiss administration and I will always resist to them for my past GF Isabella. Ro they frightened at 6 am to make her pay 1200 CHF. I will never pay 2000 they ask me. Albanians were not, devil was French telling Swiss: I don t need your so small country for my life.