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  1. #19168
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny227  [View Original Post]
    If you managed Artemis, then sharks is much easier to manage. Same rules apply only less up sell by the girls and better service normally. Also depends in your spending habits.
    Never been because too far on a week end, from Paris, but I thought Artemis was a good level, big club, with good girls like Geraldine. Hu. My lovely friend Liz. De is ex Artemis. Upselling land?

  2. #19167
    Quote Originally Posted by Canary  [View Original Post]
    Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

    Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

    I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

    Thanks.
    Pretty much in the same way you were in Artemis. Take your time, talk to them before you go to room. Tuesday is slow day so you will have advantage there. Saturday can be busy day though.

    Have fun.

  3. #19166
    Quote Originally Posted by Canary  [View Original Post]
    Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

    Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

    I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

    Thanks.
    If you managed Artemis, then sharks is much easier to manage. Same rules apply only less up sell by the girls and better service normally. Also depends in your spending habits.

  4. #19165
    I am really flummoxed by all these people who are claiming that the girls are ending their sessions early because (1) this never happens to me and (2) I am quite puzzled as to how this is occurring in the first place since this can only happen if the man decides ahead to announce his intention regarding room time -- which naturally leads me to the following questions: (1) why would a guy communicate ahead of time a time cap to his girl? And (2) how does the guy know ahead of time that he isn't going to have such a good time that he isn't going to want to stay longer than his supposed pre-determined time cap?

    Me, I never know ahead of time how I long I want to stay in a room. Thank goodness FKK isn't a prepay system -- otherwise, I'd have to keep going out to my locker every half hour!

    In my experience, the girls I go with don't ever suggest leaving the room because (1) they want to stay in the room and keep earning money (or so I assume) and (2) they can't suggest when to leave because they have no idea how long we will stay in the room.

    And yes, I don't always use the full time up to the next half hour increment, but to be clear, this is because I choose to leave early, not because the girl has called time or imposed some sort of time cap.

  5. #19164
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    If a girl were to tell me that my time is up at 45 minutes, then she could potentially lose out on an 4 extra hours!

    How is the girl supposed to know how long I intend to stay in the room when I don't even know this?
    I agree that getting only 40 minutes on a 60 minute room is wrong.

    If a customer orgasms, I believe most WGs would expect that the customer will expect the customer to leave at the next 30 minute increment, especially if the customer is not much for small talk. So if a customer orgasms at the 35-40 minutes mark, the WG would probably expect that the customer will want to leave around the 50-60 minute mark. The WG would should ask the customer if he wants to go for round two or want a massage before "packing up" herself.

    For customers that don't orgasm, then the WG really can't know. She probably assumes that most customers will want to make the best effort to orgasm, taking as much time as they need, or retrying multiple times. Maybe fucking three hours with minimal rest break. Of fuck 40 minutes, rest 20 minutes, fuck 40 minutes, rest 20 minutes. Some customers like to just talk, drink, smoke or do drugs together.

    Some WGs, typically the younger ones, know long rooms will give them more money with less pussy pounding, but they really don't like being bored by customers who they might find creepy, old, annoying. The cultural or generational gap does not make things easier. So they might prematurely abort even on long rooms, setting a cap on the room. The older WGs who are older and outside of their peak-earning years know long-room whales may not come around as often as years past. They may also have learned "patience".

  6. #19163
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    I pay 40 for 30 min and I can have very good service in Aca, that's my argument. If you're paying 100 for 30 minutes without any extras, you're getting screwed.
    You can have 40 mn with Deria. Tu, my first Turkish girl, exceptional sensual, for 40 € at Aca on November 2015, if there was a ATM, I would have kept her until 5 am, and 2 hours at Globe for 560 with Isabella I like since February 2014 at Sharks, then World, then Globe.

    Ex Alice at Aca is now Beatriz at Globe, from 40 to 140.

  7. #19162

    Tips for Sharks.

    Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

    Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

    I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

    Thanks.

  8. #19161
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    I hear this comment a lot, but as I've commented before, I never understood it.

    I always stay in the room until I am ready to leave. The girls do not decide when my time is up. I decide this.

    Neither the girl nor I know when I am going to leave the room until the moment I say, "Ok, let's go!"

    So, a girl cannot tell me my time is up because she has no idea whether I will be in the room for 1 hour or 5 hours. If a girl were to tell me that my time is up at 45 minutes, then she could potentially lose out on an 4 extra hours!

    Frankly, all this talk about the girls cutting off time early makes absolutely no sense to me. How is the girl supposed to know how long I intend to stay in the room when I don't even know this?

    And even if a girl were to decide that time was theoretically up at the 45 minute mark, how is she going to get paid if I don't get up and follow her like a puppy dog to the lockers? Is she going to stand at the lockers while I hang out in the room? I've never had a girl try this on me.

    Every single girl I go with stays in the room with me until I tell them that the time is up. In fact, they cannot do otherwise, because they have no idea how long I plan to stay in the room.

    If guys are having their time cut-off so-to-speak, then in my opinion, those guys are doing something wrong.
    I am fully on line with you, I exactly behave the same.

  9. #19160
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    I think most people can attest that when you pay for 1 hour you more often than not get a full 1 hour. No need to exaggerate.
    This too has always been my experience!

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    I always stay in the room until I am ready to leave. The girls do not decide when my time is up. I decide this.
    My experience also. You know what you are about and have got game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    At Sharks, my standard room is a very full 1 hour, which is a bit short for my games, for 100, but not for 45 mn. At GT, 1 very full hour, which is quite short for all my foreplay, when I find a real GFE, then 1 hour won't be enough. Even GT busy superstar Kate, she knows what I like and works on my rhythm for sex, becoming more and more woman behavior for me, for 1 very full hour rooms, since 3 years on next September, for 100 and we never speak about money.
    Well done Sir! You also know what you are about and have game.

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    If you had offered 100 Euros for 1 hour, in most cases, you would have received just as good treatment from the girls.
    Agree completely!

  10. #19159
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad,
    I think most people can attest that when you pay for 1 hour you more often than not get a full 1 hour. No need to exaggerate.

  11. #19158
    I hear this comment a lot, but as I've commented before, I never understood it.

    I always stay in the room until I am ready to leave. The girls do not decide when my time is up. I decide this.

    Neither the girl nor I know when I am going to leave the room until the moment I say, "Ok, let's go!"

    So, a girl cannot tell me my time is up because she has no idea whether I will be in the room for 1 hour or 5 hours. If a girl were to tell me that my time is up at 45 minutes, then she could potentially lose out on an 4 extra hours!

    Frankly, all this talk about the girls cutting off time early makes absolutely no sense to me. How is the girl supposed to know how long I intend to stay in the room when I don't even know this?

    And even if a girl were to decide that time was theoretically up at the 45 minute mark, how is she going to get paid if I don't get up and follow her like a puppy dog to the lockers? Is she going to stand at the lockers while I hang out in the room? I've never had a girl try this on me.

    Every single girl I go with stays in the room with me until I tell them that the time is up. In fact, they cannot do otherwise, because they have no idea how long I plan to stay in the room.

    If guys are having their time cut-off so-to-speak, then in my opinion, those guys are doing something wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad, in fact it may be quite sensible as the girl, elated for being paid 100 euros for a half hour, will give him superb sex for a full 30 minutes.

  12. #19157
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad, in fact it may be quite sensible as the girl, elated for being paid 100 euros for a half hour, will give him superb sex for a full 30 minutes.
    Your experience, but not mine, maybe because I'm a slow guy in bed, taking all my time to kiss, to caress, to taste for how long need to drink her juice, because I know then she doesn't behave the same, she wants to please back and won't rush, but ask most of time if I don't want to stay longer, even when she is tired from sporty sex, but asking if I m not interested for a second round? If I really enjoyed her, usually I prefer to repeat about 3 hours later, if she is exceptional, then I stay to repeat with her.

    At Sharks, my standard room is a very full 1 hour, which is a bit short for my games, for 100, but not for 45 mn. At GT, 1 very full hour, which is quite short for all my foreplay, when I find a real GFE, then 1 hour won't be enough. Even GT busy superstar Kate, she knows what I like and works on my rhythm for sex, becoming more and more woman behavior for me, for 1 very full hour rooms, since 3 years on next September, for 100 and we never speak about money.

    When LR was GFE land in Germany, I had 1 h10 rooms for 100 , and 1 h45 rooms for 150 without extras asked.

    I m sure our behavior pay with girls, like money, in FKK land, even at Globe where 15 mn more are 70 CHF, offered by busy superstar Katalina, or Megan.

  13. #19156
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    If you had offered 100 Euros for 1 hour, in most cases, you would have received just as good treatment from the girls.

    Sure, for 100 Euros for half an hour, they really loved you. But, in general, the girls view 100 Euros for an hour as a much better deal than 50 Euros for half an hour.

    Heck, if you want to save a little cash next time, you could just split the baby and try offering 120 for an hour and I assure that almost every girl will treat just as special (but no CIM of course) as you were being treated for 100/30. But, even that is not necessary in my opinion, even with most high optic girls.

    Up to you of course.
    The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad, in fact it may be quite sensible as the girl, elated for being paid 100 euros for a half hour, will give him superb sex for a full 30 minutes.

  14. #19155
    If you had offered 100 Euros for 1 hour, in most cases, you would have received just as good treatment from the girls.

    Sure, for 100 Euros for half an hour, they really loved you. But, in general, the girls view 100 Euros for an hour as a much better deal than 50 Euros for half an hour.

    Heck, if you want to save a little cash next time, you could just split the baby and try offering 120 for an hour and I assure that almost every girl will treat just as special (but no CIM of course) as you were being treated for 100/30. But, even that is not necessary in my opinion, even with most high optic girls.

    Up to you of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I was not implying in my message that prices have gone up. I usually visit the FKKs once a year, and I typically select girls that are really eye candy, in my view. I consider myself very picky. Since I like eye candy, I noticed that at 50 Euros for 30 min, I don't get much in terms of service, but when I offer 100 Euros I get much better service. That is my argument.

  15. #19154
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    I was there a few weeks ago, and I paid 100 Euros almost every time. I think it's fair since I insist on specific services, such as BBBJ, DATY, kissing, and multiple positions. The attitude also tends to be better since they are making more money.

    On this trip, I tried also Globe in Zurich, and I found the eye candy and service to be much better there, but at much higher prices. I paid 95 CHF fior entry and 140 CHF for a 30 min session.
    For sure, Globe is higher level for looks and level in bed, but no upselling experienced at Sharks, 1 h 100 € for enjoyable GFE time is my standard there. I even found what I call a really top class girl on mid June, we had 3 1 hour 100 € rooms on 2 week ends, but she didn't want to be fucked with everything for 50 or even 100, so she didn't want to stay.

    I was surprised to see a quite slow business on mid June week end, when casting was really not bad. Even sexy Elen was not busy, sitting at the bar.

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