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  1. #22708
    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos  [View Original Post]
    Dear Friend,

    With all due respect: If you drink a lot of alcohol, wine or whatever, and it doesn't affect your performance characteristics in the room, then you are either in the 2% statistic (no, I did not make a scientific study, just guessing) or maybe in denial. But that's great for you: all the power to you!

    ..............
    Ortos, when I was in my twenties my problem was that I came too fast and having alcohol in me helped me to last longer. Fast forward to forty years later I can last as long as I want to without alcohol.

  2. #22707

    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by Vitrea  [View Original Post]
    I went there after the Autoshow visit around 4 PM. It was busy but not over crowded like reports from Palace.

    I stayed at Hotel Pallas next to Rewe. Nice clean place for $70.

    At Sharks the first one was Estrella (star) 100 E for one hour including BBBJ, DATY, 69, fingers etc (this is the list she spouted off). She is good looking and I was happy with her performance.

    I did 4 other sessions. Three of them were 50 E for 30 min. Two of those three were BBBJ. I also did my last one with the tall gorgeous blonde (most veterans here know her) Melissa or Milana? For 100 E for 30 minutes. Surprisingly, her service was good given that she was busy that day.

    Overall, I found decent options. I left happy. I no longer do destination trips just for FKK but this is totally worth it as a stop over.
    This was helpful. Will be there soon, and will try and follow your lead, but certainly don't have your endurance. WOW!

  3. #22706

    Drinks anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    They also like guys who buy them drinks!
    I'm down with everything you said, including this part. I will never forget how the beautiful Melissa at Scandalos in Malaga gave me a BBBJ after she told me she absolutely, 100% would not do that. So we get to the room, and she proceeds to suck me raw! I asked her why she did it, and she said that she thought that I was a nice guy, and that she liked the fact that I bought her a drink. Women! I will never really fully understand them!

  4. #22705

    Hard but Hard

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Interesting discussion. My two cents: Firstly, I love to have a few beers when I'm out mongering. Why is that? Well, it undoubtedly lowers inhibitions. I don't just mean what you do in the room. I mean your behaviour around the girls in the bar. I really don't like to be in the presence of drunken guys (or girls) so I don't get to that position myself either. But a couple of glasses of wine make for a lot more confidence. It is also very social. I particularly like buying the girl a drink and sitting to discuss possibilities whilst we are enjoying a glass together.

    In so far as Delta Indigo indicates longer endurance. I get it. I've had it myself that I take longer to cum after three or four drinks. But I also very much agree with Ortos that the smell is not only bad but puts people off. I therefore take mints to every FKK I go to. I take them to every room, offer them deliberately. It is a statement of hygiene and smell being important. Which girls hugely appreciate. I will have some mints before and after eating and in between sessions. There is just no excuse for bad breath or hygiene and if you drink you do risk bad breath.

    Do the girls shy away from a guy buying drinks? It is all about balance and moderation. The girls like a confident guy, but not cocky and being drunk. They like guys who will loosen their own minds about how much they are spending. And the inclination to spend more and think less about the cost is greater if you drink. They also like guys who buy them drinks!

    As for impact on performance, it is undoubtedly the case that alcohol is more likely to dampen ability than enhance it. Even with viagra / Kamagra / Cialis in the blood, they then have a battle with the effects of the booze. But again, it is about moderation. During a long day and night at Sharks I might have x2 wines and x3 beers. I'm hardly rolling around on that in a 8 hour stint and I'll have eaten, slept, fucked etc in that time. I find a girl watches the clock just a bit less if she has had a wine or two.

    So pluses and minuses. I don't like to drive to an FKK. I prefer to have some beers. But to be sensible about it, not overdo it, and to have thoughts for the impact on sessions and breath.
    Yeah I pretty much agree with this. I think with no Viagra too much alcohol can affect ability to get hard as you are older. But if you are taking Viagra getting hard is not an issue. The primary issue is making it harder to cum. This can be good for your first couple sessions, but at the end of back to back sessions or a long week alcohol can make it hard to cum inside even and hour session for me. So far no straight up fails but definitely causes me to have to fall back to a self finish (her masturbating or BLS) more often.

    Nonetheless I truly enjoy my experience more as a full experience, including drinks as a part of it. So these side effects are just the cost of doing business! 😄.

  5. #22704

    The pros and cons of beers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos  [View Original Post]
    Dear Friend,

    With all due respect: If you drink a lot of alcohol, wine or whatever, and it doesn't affect your performance characteristics in the room, then you are either in the 2% statistic (no, I did not make a scientific study, just guessing) or maybe in denial. But that's great for you: all the power to you!

    So many girls have told me they steer a wide path away from such guys. So clearly we have a divergence of opinions on this subject. However: again, all the power to you.
    Interesting discussion. My two cents: Firstly, I love to have a few beers when I'm out mongering. Why is that? Well, it undoubtedly lowers inhibitions. I don't just mean what you do in the room. I mean your behaviour around the girls in the bar. I really don't like to be in the presence of drunken guys (or girls) so I don't get to that position myself either. But a couple of glasses of wine make for a lot more confidence. It is also very social. I particularly like buying the girl a drink and sitting to discuss possibilities whilst we are enjoying a glass together.

    In so far as Delta Indigo indicates longer endurance. I get it. I've had it myself that I take longer to cum after three or four drinks. But I also very much agree with Ortos that the smell is not only bad but puts people off. I therefore take mints to every FKK I go to. I take them to every room, offer them deliberately. It is a statement of hygiene and smell being important. Which girls hugely appreciate. I will have some mints before and after eating and in between sessions. There is just no excuse for bad breath or hygiene and if you drink you do risk bad breath.

    Do the girls shy away from a guy buying drinks? It is all about balance and moderation. The girls like a confident guy, but not cocky and being drunk. They like guys who will loosen their own minds about how much they are spending. And the inclination to spend more and think less about the cost is greater if you drink. They also like guys who buy them drinks!

    As for impact on performance, it is undoubtedly the case that alcohol is more likely to dampen ability than enhance it. Even with viagra / Kamagra / Cialis in the blood, they then have a battle with the effects of the booze. But again, it is about moderation. During a long day and night at Sharks I might have x2 wines and x3 beers. I'm hardly rolling around on that in a 8 hour stint and I'll have eaten, slept, fucked etc in that time. I find a girl watches the clock just a bit less if she has had a wine or two.

    So pluses and minuses. I don't like to drive to an FKK. I prefer to have some beers. But to be sensible about it, not overdo it, and to have thoughts for the impact on sessions and breath.

  6. #22703
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Alcohol really does not affect my erections, in fact if anything it gives me prolonged endurance.

    At the risk of exposing myself I almost exclusively drink red wine in clubs, which isn't bad for my breath unless it has gone bad.

    Alcohol makes me forget things because I do drink an inordinate amount of red wine, I feel a bit less and last even longer.

    I want to drink less when I visit these clubs, but it certainly does not affect my erections adversely, at least for me.
    Dear Friend,

    With all due respect: If you drink a lot of alcohol, wine or whatever, and it doesn't affect your performance characteristics in the room, then you are either in the 2% statistic (no, I did not make a scientific study, just guessing) or maybe in denial. But that's great for you: all the power to you!

    As for it not having any bearing on your breath: Ah, no one of us (me, you or anybody else) is in the best position to assess the qualities and characteristics our own breath. It's something that OTHER PEOPLE can assess, not ourselves. The character of a guy's breath is something girls immediately pick up on, especially girls who might come close for an intimate conversation or kissing in the room or (in the "old days" at least) outside the room. That is my opinion, at least.

    About the point that girls see guys spending tons of money on alcoholic drinks at the bar (wait: somebody said the drinks were not expensive! ha) and therefore assume they are good targets for corralling into the room because they'll spend for extras, etc.: I can't tell you how many times over the years visiting FKK clubs that so many girls have told me they absolutely hate it when they smell alcohol on guys breath, even if they are not kissing, they get close enough in various positions. So many girls have told me they steer a wide path away from such guys. So clearly we have a divergence of opinions on this subject. However: again, all the power to you.

    But the original point made, now a page or two back, I suppose, was about guys who make long and detailed posts about girls' amazing performance in the room, they remember and post every detail, but then conveniently "forget" the names. Using the alcohol thing as an excuse is just that: a lame excuse. Either you get the point I was trying to make, or you don't. Enough said.

    Thanks.

  7. #22702

    Just one point

    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos  [View Original Post]
    I don't know what Planet you are living on, mate, but there are some pretty obvious discrepancies and points that cry out for clarifications in your list above:

    A) Alcohol affects each person differently. But I believe in the universal principle that consuming alcohol will NOT be good for you erection activity. Period. Some people get drunk after one or two beers. And some guys have an allergic reaction to any alcoholic beverage.

    B) Chewing gum and tic-tacs? Give me a break! Pathetic.

    C) In Sharks drinks containing alcohol is not expensive? Oh, paying, (what is it?) 6 euros for a small glass of beer = not expensive? I wouldn't know too much about that because I simply don't drink alcohol in the clubs, but I a few years ago I did buy another male guest a beer because he did me a great favour and I seem to remember it was 6 euros. And if you want something stronger than a beer.
    Alcohol really does not affect my erections, in fact if anything it gives me prolonged endurance.

    At the risk of exposing myself I almost exclusively drink red wine in clubs, which isn't bad for my breath unless it has gone bad.

    Alcohol makes me forget things because I do drink an inordinate amount of red wine, I feel a bit less and last even longer.

    I want to drink less when I visit these clubs, but it certainly does not affect my erections adversely, at least for me.

  8. #22701
    Quote Originally Posted by Ortos  [View Original Post]
    I don't know what Planet you are living on, mate, but there are some pretty obvious discrepancies and points that cry out for clarifications in your list above:

    A) Alcohol affects each person differently. But I believe in the universal principle that consuming alcohol will NOT be good for you erection activity. Period. Some people get drunk after one or two beers. And some guys have an allergic reaction to any alcoholic beverage.

    B) Chewing gum and tic-tacs? Give me a break! Pathetic.

    C) In Sharks drinks containing alcohol is not expensive? Oh, paying, (what is it?) 6 euros for a small glass of beer = not expensive? I wouldn't know too much about that because I simply don't drink alcohol in the clubs, but I a few years ago I did buy another male guest a beer because he did me a great favour and I seem to remember it was 6 euros. And if you want something stronger than a beer..
    I come from my real life experience. No problem with erection when I drink, unless I drink real lot. Chewing gum helps if I think my breath is not good. 6 EUR for drink is not expensive for club (I have no idea if it's 6 or 8, anyway I never ever paid more than 70-80 EUR for drinks consumed at the exit in Sharks). 60 EUR for taxi to or from Frankfurt is not much.

    My average cost of visit to Sharks is 500 to 1000 EUR per day. Sometimes a bit less, sometimes a bit more. Do you still insist I should care if drink at the bar is 6 EUR or 7 EUR? LOL.

  9. #22700

    Really??

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexEurope  [View Original Post]
    A) You should consume A lot to have such an effect.

    B) Use some tic-tac or chewing gum if you think you have a problem with your breathe.

    C) In Sharks alcohol is reasonably priced. No real need to check drinks menu before ordering.

    D) Taxi. No problem at all. Even taxi to Frankfurt if not expensive.
    I don't know what Planet you are living on, mate, but there are some pretty obvious discrepancies and points that cry out for clarifications in your list above:

    A) Alcohol affects each person differently. But I believe in the universal principle that consuming alcohol will NOT be good for you erection activity. Period. Some people get drunk after one or two beers. And some guys have an allergic reaction to any alcoholic beverage.

    B) Chewing gum and tic-tacs? Give me a break! Pathetic.

    C) In Sharks drinks containing alcohol is not expensive? Oh, paying, (what is it?) 6 euros for a small glass of beer = not expensive? I wouldn't know too much about that because I simply don't drink alcohol in the clubs, but I a few years ago I did buy another male guest a beer because he did me a great favour and I seem to remember it was 6 euros. And if you want something stronger than a beer. ?

    D) Taxis to central Frankfurt from Sharks one-way: at least 60-65 euros these days. (By the way, some guy recently posted paying that same rate to or from Frankfurt Airport, which is wrong. If it's 60 from Sharks to central FFM by taxi, it must be at least 20-25 euros less to / from Airport and Sharks, right?) Considering you can rent a car in most cases for 25-30 euros / day, going to / from clubs by taxi is very, very expensive indeed.

    So, to be honest, Alex, I really don't know where you are coming from with your points. But thanks for the contribution, anyway.

  10. #22699
    Quote Originally Posted by GunningPeter  [View Original Post]
    Be ready for some veterans here to proudly proclaim that 50 will get you all you want and that we don't know any better or that we are all "newbies". You just confirmed what I experienced last night and other recent visits: most if not all of the good looking ladies, such as Melissa or Evie or several others whose names I have forgotten, are banking on 100 per half hour if you want BBBJ and DFK. Never mind CIM or Anal, which will cost more. I've been going since 8 years or so to Sharks. Changed climate. Maybe better to go to Austria?
    Very difficult for my eyes to find pretty girls in FKK land, but sometimes I succeed. Really difficult at Sharks since Megan turned to blond for Asian business on end of 2016, even found Florentina, Madi2 and, long black hair with blue eyes, with charm Tamara, a very rare top class in FKK land. Among the very few a bit pretty now, I confirm Melissa ask for 100 for 30 mn and 150 for 1 hour, reason why I didn't return to her on my last visit and preferred have no room, even she is higher level to chat than average and nice, but didn't have wow fire in bed nor high sensuality with her. Red hair to shoulders on my last visit. Another quite pretty, Angela just said she was not interested for only 30 mn, I answered I don t like to rush with a girl to dream, no upselling, 1 h30 in VIP room, with foreplay in jacuzzi, for 150, really nice, asking when I would come back, but not woman look enough for me and her arching back while doggy, pain in small pussy, made me feel guilty about her. Too average casting for beauties for me at Sharks. Oase have more pretty faces, even disappointing on this end of IAA compare to Saturday 14. Sometimes, I m happy to find a beauty.

  11. #22698
    Quote Originally Posted by GunningPeter  [View Original Post]
    Be ready for some veterans here to proudly proclaim that 50 will get you all you want and that we don't know any better or that we are all "newbies". You just confirmed what I experienced last night and other recent visits: most if not all of the good looking ladies, such as Melissa or Evie or several others whose names I have forgotten, are banking on 100 per half hour if you want BBBJ and DFK. Never mind CIM or Anal, which will cost more. I've been going since 8 years or so to Sharks. Changed climate. Maybe better to go to Austria?
    I failed to mention that at least on this Saturday, the room was stinky smelly.

    And don't waste your money on the massage by the female masseuse. Too weak. Waste of time Euro 30.

  12. #22697

    Same Price More Trimmings

    Quote Originally Posted by HungryStud101  [View Original Post]
    This seems to be the direction things are going. You can still get a 50 Euro session/30 min. About a 1/3 of mine were last year but many of the girls that I wanted to see were insisting on 100 E/30 min.
    I had good luck to get 50/30 from a second tier girl (who was awesome BTW) but one real hottie was sticking to her 100/30 ask. But when I said no, she threw in CIM at the 100/30 price. Which is honestly old school pricing. So maybe if a girl won't move off 100 see if she will include CIM. For me it was a win win for both.

    P.S. I know you know this HS but maybe for others wrestling with the issue.

  13. #22696

    Friday at Sharks.

    I went there after the Autoshow visit around 4 PM. It was busy but not over crowded like reports from Palace.

    I stayed at Hotel Pallas next to Rewe. Nice clean place for $70.

    At Sharks the first one was Estrella (star) 100 E for one hour including BBBJ, DATY, 69, fingers etc (this is the list she spouted off). She is good looking and I was happy with her performance.

    I did 4 other sessions. Three of them were 50 E for 30 min. Two of those three were BBBJ. I also did my last one with the tall gorgeous blonde (most veterans here know her) Melissa or Milana? For 100 E for 30 minutes. Surprisingly, her service was good given that she was busy that day.

    Overall, I found decent options. I left happy. I no longer do destination trips just for FKK but this is totally worth it as a stop over.

  14. #22695

    Cool line.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I will not proclaim that 50 will get you all you want but it will get me all I want.
    What you want is what matters. Nicely said.

  15. #22694

    Amazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I will not proclaim that 50 will get you all you want but it will get me all I want.
    You must have very high standards.

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