FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[HappyTour]

Sena are not German.

Really? Different Sena? See below your post not while ago.

I knew Sena is 30+ yo service oriented woman with large tattoos. Not exact my type but might be your type.

Tara 30+ yo lady with silicone bra. Not natural but service-oriented women too.

As I remember you dislike tattoos and silie in your posts. Didn't you changed your taste?

But I always respect ladies. I know Tara and Sena. They are friendly.

Sena, blond white skin German ex Palace were for 100/60 for full GFE on 2021 after covid.
I had many times Katalea for 150/60 , the only one on 2021 . Rate really increased on 2022 . Supermodel 1,85.. . . .

[HappyTour]

I have 6 days visits in October and November. So my lineup and price information in my reports more or less provided current status at Sharks.

I agree with David1266 that anyone could share his top girls list if it is different from mine.

Further more, anyone could also disclose the names of girls in my list who quote me 200/60 but offer him 150/60. Then next time if I meet these girls again I would show evidence to these girls that they still accept 150/60. It would help all of us to keep price down and avoid surcharge. Otherwise. . .

I doubt some guys have not visited clubs for long time but still tirelessly engaged in posting to argue with others.

So I have to agree with Shark16 that Too many fake handles around ISG.

My answer was about this affirmation: "They all quote at least 100/30 200/60". I don't see what is subjective in this.

Too many fake handles around here.

[David1266]

First, we don t all have same eyes. Katalea, Kity, Kloe are quite pretty but many others on his list are not pretty for me when I m not into little Romanians looking like schoolgirl. I m much more excited by woman images and behavior in bed. Kloe appeared too professionnal for me. Katalea is now limited for sex, Kity is not interesting for sex, other than when she says she doesn t work like others. All 3 are too expensive for their potential for my GFE, when asking 200 or more for FK for 1 hour which is higher quality for me than 30 fast minutes. I m a foreigner, but for everything in my life, I m only interested by quality and I don t think they are highest quality at Sharks, compare to Sena. Ro or Tara. Ro who are for less expensive and so far higher level in bed, with really great BJ for one when she wants to please You back. Matter if You play tourist just hugging, or a bit professionnal like at job and a fucker, when I hate to waste my money for only average level. At GG, I get more elegant and higher GFE for less than 150 for 1 hour in the most beautiful rooms in FKK land. Why would I pay more expensive to get lower quality at Sharks or Globe. 0 room on my 2 last visits at Sharks, on Saturday or Sunday party. 0 room on my 2 2023 Globe visits, but I m more picky and demanding, from my past girlfriends, than most in FKK land. For example, I almost can t find anymore attractive escorts among Ukrainians and Russians in Paris, so I let You imagine for little Romanians at Sharks or Globe. On the other hand, I see some pretties at Oase, Nadia, Andra, 3 I don t like much behavior. At Sharks, seem now best quality is not among most expensive, when I doubt little Simona can compete in bed with Sena, as I doubt I could enter in her.

Thanks very much Siri for sharing your philosophy. I now understand your English (I call it Siriojan) very well. I think Top 4 should be Katalea / Catalea, Kitty, Maria, Kloe / Chloe. I never met 3 of them, so it look forward seeing them.

It's interesting that we have different view on service value. When I go to a massage or dentist, Yes, I value them by their skill and the length of experience. But for this FKK service, it's very different. I actually prefer a girl who is fresh and amateurish and has very little experience (this makes sense from evolutional point of view). But this is just a difference in personal preference.

[David1266]

Girls' quote is subjective too. They change price depending on customers (rich travelers vs local people, for example), or how busy it is.

But in general, top girls always quote me at least 100/30, 200/60 also, although I never met Catalea or Maria.

Thanks for providing names, this is very helpful. I never heard of Ayleen before. She is different from Julia who is a Romanian who speaks fluent Austrian, right?

My answer was about this affirmation: "They all quote at least 100/30 200/60". I don't see what is subjective in this.

If we speak about Optics Top 3, yes that it's something else and it can change everyday, depending on my mood. But I tend to be agree with Happytour on this subject : Maria (ukr), Catalea (ro), Kitty (ro) or Ariana (sp) are beautiful. I can add Ayleen (Austria) for her sex appeal, Kendra (ro) for her pretty teeny look. The same for Ginger. Melissa, Senna or Stacy have also something special and attractive. This is what I think today. Tomorrow I can have a total different choice, depending on my subjectivity.

[GuyFromParis]

Happytour is specifically using a phrase "I believe", which means that it's his subjective opinion and he is NOT stating that as "universal fact" as you claim. "Beauty" is always subjective.

But these three girls are also mentioned by many others as top girls.

Anyway, can you also share your Optics Top3 if it's different from Happytour's list? Optics, not sex skill top 3.

My answer was about this affirmation: "They all quote at least 100/30 200/60". I don't see what is subjective in this.

If we speak about Optics Top 3, yes that it's something else and it can change everyday, depending on my mood. But I tend to be agree with Happytour on this subject : Maria (ukr), Catalea (ro), Kitty (ro) or Ariana (sp) are beautiful. I can add Ayleen (Austria) for her sex appeal, Kendra (ro) for her pretty teeny look. The same for Ginger. Melissa, Senna or Stacy have also something special and attractive. This is what I think today. Tomorrow I can have a total different choice, depending on my subjectivity.

[Sirioja]

Valeria. It at GG for 140/60 . Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro at Sharks for 150/60 . I keep my best for me when she is old Germans superstar. Zayra. Ro and Melisa. Ro at Freubad.

Zayra who is ex Imperium refuse public sex, maybe why she left Imperium, but Valeria. It seems now to perform in kino, for sure losing elegance even elegant glamourous look.

[Sirioja]

This Happytour list is very helpful for newbie like me. I noticed that You (Siri) judge girls based on their "sex skill", you are very demanding like "Sex Connoisseur". But Optics and "sex skill" are different. I am curious, if you pick Top 3 girls purely on "optics", without considering sex skill on bed, who would be? For majority of people, I believe optics is more important than sex skill.

First, we don t all have same eyes. Katalea, Kity, Kloe are quite pretty but many others on his list are not pretty for me when I m not into little Romanians looking like schoolgirl. I m much more excited by woman images and behavior in bed. Kloe appeared too professionnal for me. Katalea is now limited for sex, Kity is not interesting for sex, other than when she says she doesn t work like others. All 3 are too expensive for their potential for my GFE, when asking 200 or more for FK for 1 hour which is higher quality for me than 30 fast minutes. I m a foreigner, but for everything in my life, I m only interested by quality and I don t think they are highest quality at Sharks, compare to Sena. Ro or Tara. Ro who are for less expensive and so far higher level in bed, with really great BJ for one when she wants to please You back. Matter if You play tourist just hugging, or a bit professionnal like at job and a fucker, when I hate to waste my money for only average level. At GG, I get more elegant and higher GFE for less than 150 for 1 hour in the most beautiful rooms in FKK land. Why would I pay more expensive to get lower quality at Sharks or Globe. 0 room on my 2 last visits at Sharks, on Saturday or Sunday party. 0 room on my 2 2023 Globe visits, but I m more picky and demanding, from my past girlfriends, than most in FKK land. For example, I almost can t find anymore attractive escorts among Ukrainians and Russians in Paris, so I let You imagine for little Romanians at Sharks or Globe. On the other hand, I see some pretties at Oase, Nadia, Andra, 3 I don t like much behavior. At Sharks, seem now best quality is not among most expensive, when I doubt little Simona can compete in bed with Sena, as I doubt I could enter in her.

[Zumboit]

Actually Ramona is 25. Tight great bod, small perky tits. Sweet, willing, delicious. 100/30. Hangs out standing at the white piller between the stairs and the bar. Yes!

[David1266]

Not all the girls of your list. Sorry, but once again, your experiences are just your experiences. You cannot say it will be the same for everybody.

Happytour is specifically using a phrase "I believe", which means that it's his subjective opinion and he is NOT stating that as "universal fact" as you claim. "Beauty" is always subjective.

But these three girls are also mentioned by many others as top girls.

Anyway, can you also share your Optics Top3 if it's different from Happytour's list? Optics, not sex skill top 3.

[David1266]

This Happytour list is very helpful for newbie like me. I noticed that You (Siri) judge girls based on their "sex skill", you are very demanding like "Sex Connoisseur". But Optics and "sex skill" are different. I am curious, if you pick Top 3 girls purely on "optics", without considering sex skill on bed, who would be? For majority of people, I believe optics is more important than sex skill.

I just listed girls working at noon /1 pm, when I was never with the 3 , but for sure Russian help with Maria, even too hurricane for sex for me. Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro star of Mainhattan, both full natural with almost no tattoo, are so far higher level for sex than too expensive for their value Kity or Katalea. Fact on this crowded Saturday party was both were not busy and Katalea was working at 2. 30 am, when You should know she usually goes to bed around 1 am, when she needs to sleep to rest her skin. Sharks girls rates are for tourists, when Kloe or Simona ask even more than 200/60 for kissing, when Kity ask 150/30 to light kiss Asians. Those who know a bit the business don t pay so low value for quality and go and enjoy higher quality and better value for money elsewhere. Sharks is like Globe now, more expensive for lower quality than elsewhere.

[GuyFromParis]

I believe, at Sharks, in November 2023, the top three girls optic wise should be: Catelea (22), Kitty (22), Maria (20, Ukraine). Ariana could be the 4th one.

They all quote at least 100/30 200/60.

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Not all the girls of your list. Sorry, but once again, your experiences are just your experiences. You cannot say it will be the same for everybody.

[Sirioja]

Ok, Brenda, Alina, Sabina are your (Siri) top three at Sharks.

Yes, if in 2015, it was correct. Today, it might be different. Although I still respect all these women.

I believe, at Sharks, in November 2023, the top three girls optic wise should be: Catelea (22), Kitty (22), Maria (20, Ukraine). Ariana could be the 4th one.

They all quote at least 100/30 200/60.

If you think too expensive, then try other alternatives such as some old or tan or fat or heavy tattoos or Botox lips women.

Even if at 1 pm, Kitty is in Club already. Catelea comes usually around 3-4 pm.

If someone disagree, please list your top three here. If someones have not visited Sharks for long time, please do not post wrong information to mislead others.

I just listed girls working at noon /1 pm, when I was never with the 3 , but for sure Russian help with Maria, even too hurricane for sex for me. Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro star of Mainhattan, both full natural with almost no tattoo, are so far higher level for sex than too expensive for their value Kity or Katalea. Fact on this crowded Saturday party was both were not busy and Katalea was working at 2. 30 am, when You should know she usually goes to bed around 1 am, when she needs to sleep to rest her skin. Sharks girls rates are for tourists, when Kloe or Simona ask even more than 200/60 for kissing, when Kity ask 150/30 to light kiss Asians. Those who know a bit the business don t pay so low value for quality and go and enjoy higher quality and better value for money elsewhere. Sharks is like Globe now, more expensive for lower quality than elsewhere.

[Sirioja]

Yes, I'm also very interested to hear the names of those girls. We keep on reading posts about beautiful girls with great service in NRW or girls with great service in Sharks, but strangely enough we never read any names of those girls and NRW clubs.

Valeria. It at GG for 140/60 . Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro at Sharks for 150/60 . I keep my best for me when she is old Germans superstar. Zayra. Ro and Melisa. Ro at Freubad.

[PayForIt]

300460? Do you have "Tourist" stamped on your forehead? Funny how this never seems to happen to most other people.So here we have another tourist (PayForIt) who claims to 'know it all' about prices and service, yet it's totally clear that he doesn't regularly read this forum and that he is clueless about prices and price negotiations.

LOL, another complete miss!

Oh for sure I don't doubt that the girls don't see me as a regular. But many in the club do know me of old. I cannot speak of what happens to other guys. I don't believe I have ever claimed to "know it all" about prices (or service). It is nonsense that I don't read the forum (not only do I but I regularly contribute particularly when in Germany / attending FKKs). But as Shark16 sensibly wrote. Many girls do "try it on" and know that some guys will just pay what they ask.

I didn't succumb to silly demands or requests. If 2 years ago I had predicated that a LOT of girls were demanding 200/ hour for standard service, I suspect you would have been one of those to write that I don't know what I was talking about (or had "tourist" stamped on my head). But that would have been a very accurate prediction in this club.

Read back 4 or 5 pages (you seem quick to tell me I don't do so. In which case you won't mind me telling you to take your own advice) and you will see that it is fast becoming the norm for a lot of the girls seeking 200/ hour. Some didn't. Some went straight from 100/60 to 150/60 - but not many. You say I'm the only one who got quoted higher. Not so if you read back. And yes I did get quoted 300/60 for an hour but it included an extra which I would expect to pay more for. Even then. It was far too high and I rejected it on the two occasions that was put to me.

Contrary to your misconceived and totally unsubstantiated or corroborated notion, I am far from clueless about prices and particularly less clueless about negotiation which is 95% of my professional life. What is more obvious to me is that you are the one who does not have a clue about the approach / viewpoint / rationale of tourists to FKKs. We are a different breed to those who are lucky enough to live close. Those who can attend weekly or more often, who can easily drive a hard bargain without any concern, knowing full well that if the negotiation doesn't play out as planned it matters not. Tomorrow, next week will be another day / another chance. If you are coming to FKKs twice a year it's VERY different. You don't want to waste the opportunity. So when you narrow down your preferences to a few girls, and find that they (being perhaps some of the most popular) are driving the hard bargain, your choice is to walk away because you feel you are being squeezed for 50 extra, or you have the mentality that you won't be back here for maybe 6 months so to hell with it. And go with it provided it ain't too unreasonable. I think many of the girls are sharp enough to know that that is the case. With guys they see weekly they probably chance their arms less. Knowing that this is a very regular punter who they are better of snaring for 150/60 with a chance of many repeats than cashing on a twice yearly visitor who they are less worried about alienating.

So perhaps before you start bandying about bullshit about people being clueless about prices / negotiation or mis-quoting about "knowing it all" you might want to consider things from a different angle.

Oh and by the way, when a guy (a tourist) who is attending a German FKK without being able to speak a single sentence in German, its really not difficult for girls to see "tourist" stamped on his head! That's because it is very obvious from the off………that he is just that……. A tourist. He doesn’t need the stamp on the head.

[Shark16]

It's true that it's possible today to find girls who charge 100 for 1 hour. About my experiences, 3% of girls still continue to charge 100/60, less than 10% charge 200/60 and the large majority still ask 150/60, even among the most popular girls. But the truth is that there are no rules. The same girl can charge a guy for 150/60 included blowjob without condom, french kiss, and to another guy it will be 150/30 blowjob with condom. It's why it's not relevant to name girls, especially those who accept 100/60. Also, some girls don't like to stay 1h in a room, it's why they try to charge more than it should be.

+1. Very well put.

Let me just add that "a quote" is not the same as "going rate". So, so many girls try their luck. Some (very few) because they can (less than a handful IMHO), but most of them simply because they get away with it. You will be surprised how many hot "200 E quote girls" that happily accept 150 E /60 with no lack of perfomance. I hate to say this, but if you choose to ignore the fact that certain FKK clubs these days have some similarities with a Turkish bazar, then you lose and need to pay an overprice.

But I clearly understand that this is not easy to comprehend for an occasional visitor. Or, the ones considering themselves as "premium guests". The last wellwritten reports from wellknown punters show this.