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  1. #25913
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    I personally think Sharks beats Oase hands down. Five years ago it was sometimes fun to visit Oase, they had better looking girls on average, the service used to be better at Sharks on average. However in my opinion there is no contest now. I would not bother with Oase.
    I have to agree. I've been to both Sharks and Oase, and Sharks wins easily. More women, more room to walk around, stand, or sit, easy system to buy drinks, accessible ATM, etc. The only issue is maybe parking and some women are picky.

  2. #25912
    Quote Originally Posted by BobNSuzy  [View Original Post]
    Peyronies / not contagious / I got it in my thirties about 20 years ago. That doesn't usually happen. I think maybe one in ten get it in their lifetime later in life. I think it affects people of European decent at a higher rate. I have always had good health. I am on no medications. My heart rate is still something like 60. I can still jog or run a sprint.
    Oof my sympathies.

  3. #25911

    Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Why "excuse me"? My comment had nothing to do with you personally. There are people who take pride; perhaps some have gratitude. There are many reasons people do hourly sessions, which are their business. It does not matter. The central point of my comment was something else and was spelled out.
    You could have made your point without throwing that gratuitous comment in there. Oh wait, yes you call yourself "Pessimist". Happy Holidays?

  4. #25910
    Quote Originally Posted by Jmioffe  [View Original Post]
    How does this happen? Reduced blood flow to the organ? Are you like, only a partially inflated balloon now?

    Good attitude though. I hope to be the same when time catches up with me.
    Peyronies / not contagious / I got it in my thirties about 20 years ago. That doesn't usually happen. I think maybe one in ten get it in their lifetime later in life. I think it affects people of European decent at a higher rate. I have always had good health. I am on no medications. My heart rate is still something like 60. I can still jog or run a sprint.

  5. #25909
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Prices have been creeping for a while, they always do. Inflation does not happen in steps, it is a continuous process through the economy. But inside the clubs, prices were held down with ceilings, so we have been seeing a gradual decline in the service standard instead. It is true that the 2017 rule change was a step change. Many girls used it as a bargaining chip. It is true many other girls still provided BBBJ w / no extra charge but you had to commit to an hour. I know many guys take pride w / "I never take 30 minutes anyway" but that is their personal choice and besides the point (akin to saying "yeah, prices went up at Walmart for low-end goods but I always shopped at Macy's" That demand for an hour session or no BBBJ is an implicit price increase. The fact that at least some of the girls refused to provide BBBJ unless 50 E extra was thrown in (regardless of the session length) was another implicit price hike because it reduced the pool of the girls available to a visitor.

    In the first half of the decade, one never had to discuss these things; BBBJ was a redundant word. Every single girl provided it, no one even had to think about it. Even kissing was not up for negotiation; yes some girls only smooched lightly but there was never any price tag attached to the quality and physicality of the kiss.

    The Germans are a good people. They take their inflation seriously and guard zealously, but a slow release mechanism might have helped. For example, a 5 E price increase every few years might have helped? But now, the plot is lost and it has become a totally unregulated market with girls charging what they want, guys throwing recriminations at each other (cheap Charlies and Asian pushovers). I doubt the genie can be put back in the bottle and service and quality levels reverting to those of a decade ago. Covid and supply chain disruptions did not help either. This is always the problem with price ceilings, sooner or later they fail.
    When I'm weekly in FKK when I'm not on holidays, BBBJ remained standard for me after 1 July 2017 new law. Even on this year at Sharks, no extra asked, maybe girls will to please me back from how I take care of them. When my standard is 1 hour at least, 100/60 is usually good, when I leave room after less than 15 mn if not good, but when this is good, when I like to be as fast as possible on German autobahns, but difficult for me to be faster than 1 hour for my way for sex learned with my girlfriends, with many foreplay, many oral. Of course, Globe superstar German Sofia helped me a lot when cumming after less than 5 mn on DATY, same for fucking with her nails in my flesh, fast and easy, when need to work much longer with some girls, when I don't pay to empty my balls. No pride, no truth, just my way and what I look for. I prefer to have only 1 quality room rather than many fast.

  6. #25908
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for inputs. Appreciated.

    Yeah. I am flying out on Sat and got some time to kill in Friday.

    Thought I will explore alternatives. I am landing back in FRA in Jan. So, if I don't like Oase or Palace, I can return back to Sharks.

    Will never know what is out there unless I venture there.
    Tomorrow, I would go to Palace where entry is 50 before 5 pm but really waking up after 7 pm, or Sharks. Castings should be down from Sunday to end of January, if no lockdown under SA Omicron.

  7. #25907
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Excuse me, I don't know about anybody else, but for me it's not a matter of "pride". It's simply a matter of both what I want (I never want to feel rushed) and can afford. Has squat to do with "pride" or being "proud" about it one iota. If anything, the feeling for me is "gratefulness" for being able to afford to do it how I want to, which is virtually all 1 hour sessions.
    Why "excuse me"? My comment had nothing to do with you personally. There are people who take pride; perhaps some have gratitude. There are many reasons people do hourly sessions, which are their business. It does not matter. The central point of my comment was something else and was spelled out.

  8. #25906

    Just exploring

    Thanks for inputs. Appreciated.

    Yeah. I am flying out on Sat and got some time to kill in Friday.

    Thought I will explore alternatives. I am landing back in FRA in Jan. So, if I don't like Oase or Palace, I can return back to Sharks.

    Will never know what is out there unless I venture there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Oase had better looks than Sharks on 2019, but long time girls kill business for new fresh beauties who don t stay for long. Oase is now to relax. I would give a try to Palace on Friday or Saturday. Sharks casting is not on same level than on July and should fall after Saturday. No communication about Sylvester party.

  9. #25905

    Pride?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    I know many guys take pride w / "I never take 30 minutes anyway" but that is their personal choice and besides the point (akin to saying "yeah, prices went up at Walmart for low-end goods but I always shopped at Macy's". That demand for an hour session or no BBBJ is an implicit price increase.
    Excuse me, I don't know about anybody else, but for me it's not a matter of "pride". It's simply a matter of both what I want (I never want to feel rushed) and can afford. Has squat to do with "pride" or being "proud" about it one iota. If anything, the feeling for me is "gratefulness" for being able to afford to do it how I want to, which is virtually all 1 hour sessions.

  10. #25904
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    I personally think Sharks beats Oase hands down. Five years ago it was sometimes fun to visit Oase, they had better looking girls on average, the service used to be better at Sharks on average. However in my opinion there is no contest now. I would not bother with Oase.
    Oase had better looks than Sharks on 2019, but long time girls kill business for new fresh beauties who don t stay for long. Oase is now to relax. I would give a try to Palace on Friday or Saturday. Sharks casting is not on same level than on July and should fall after Saturday. No communication about Sylvester party.

  11. #25903
    Quote Originally Posted by PhuckBiden  [View Original Post]
    Lara is old as dirt.

    She's 32 or 33.

    She's been in the business for 11 to 12 years.

    She's easy to get along with but loss 50% performance in the room.
    I first started seeing Lara in Sharks perhaps 5 / 6 years ago. Where did she work before? I would agree that her service declined a little from the days when I first went with her but it was still good enough for me. My experience is not as much as a 50% decline.

  12. #25902
    Quote Originally Posted by BackpackBrian  [View Original Post]
    Some members are saying the 2017 law didn't change anything and I would disagree!

    I never paid more than 50 E for basic service (30 min BBBJ+sex) from 2003/4 - 2017, with Artemis being the only exception charging 60 E. I did occasionally tip 5-15 E but was never discussed before the room.

    Hooker economics. The working girls will use any and all events (mostly bad) as a reason to charge more and I would probably do the same if I was in their line of work.

    Ex. 1 - 2017 condom law.

    Ex. 2 - COVID.

    This logic is not based on supply and demand, which I learned in Econ 101 at my University.

    I haven't been in 8+ months, but from reading other posts it seems like supply is still there and all the regular girls are still working..
    Prices have been creeping for a while, they always do. Inflation does not happen in steps, it is a continuous process through the economy. But inside the clubs, prices were held down with ceilings, so we have been seeing a gradual decline in the service standard instead. It is true that the 2017 rule change was a step change. Many girls used it as a bargaining chip. It is true many other girls still provided BBBJ w / no extra charge but you had to commit to an hour. I know many guys take pride w / "I never take 30 minutes anyway" but that is their personal choice and besides the point (akin to saying "yeah, prices went up at Walmart for low-end goods but I always shopped at Macy's" That demand for an hour session or no BBBJ is an implicit price increase. The fact that at least some of the girls refused to provide BBBJ unless 50 E extra was thrown in (regardless of the session length) was another implicit price hike because it reduced the pool of the girls available to a visitor.

    In the first half of the decade, one never had to discuss these things; BBBJ was a redundant word. Every single girl provided it, no one even had to think about it. Even kissing was not up for negotiation; yes some girls only smooched lightly but there was never any price tag attached to the quality and physicality of the kiss.

    The Germans are a good people. They take their inflation seriously and guard zealously, but a slow release mechanism might have helped. For example, a 5 E price increase every few years might have helped? But now, the plot is lost and it has become a totally unregulated market with girls charging what they want, guys throwing recriminations at each other (cheap Charlies and Asian pushovers). I doubt the genie can be put back in the bottle and service and quality levels reverting to those of a decade ago. Covid and supply chain disruptions did not help either. This is always the problem with price ceilings, sooner or later they fail.

    I hinted at these when I made an economic comparison to the sugarbabe scene in the US where I am personally experiencing a price deflation if anything and the quantity and quality of girls have both expanded tremendously in the last year+. Unfortunately, some drones who don't understand English jumped on me. How dare I question the revered FKKs? Neuro made some absurd remarks about internet ads / photos and fucking w / blindfolds on and as always the resident CCP stooge and his side beech Pauline both made their shitty presence felt with no real substance but just a general ode to their CCP masters.

  13. #25901

    Sharks Vs Oase

    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    I'm in FRA tomorrow. Been to Sharks and loved it.

    But thinking of exploring Oase / Palace before returning to Sharks.

    Is it worth exploring? Or should I stick to Sharks?

    I am more like a "do 2 or 3 girls but enjoy the ambience while treating my eyes to naked beauties" guy.
    I personally think Sharks beats Oase hands down. Five years ago it was sometimes fun to visit Oase, they had better looking girls on average, the service used to be better at Sharks on average. However in my opinion there is no contest now. I would not bother with Oase.

  14. #25900
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    I'm in FRA tomorrow. Been to Sharks and loved it.

    But thinking of exploring Oase / Palace before returning to Sharks.

    Is it worth exploring? Or should I stick to Sharks?

    I am more like a "do 2 or 3 girls but enjoy the ambience while treating my eyes to naked beauties" guy.
    Of course it's worth it. It's the best club in FRA. Enjoy yourself to the fullest.

  15. #25899

    Sharks vs Oase

    I'm in FRA tomorrow. Been to Sharks and loved it.

    But thinking of exploring Oase / Palace before returning to Sharks.

    Is it worth exploring? Or should I stick to Sharks?

    I am more like a "do 2 or 3 girls but enjoy the ambience while treating my eyes to naked beauties" guy.

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