FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Sirioja]

After my trips to FKK Rom, Atlanta, Sharks, Mainhattan and Oase the last weeks, back at Sharks again yesterday at 12 noon today, around very early noon 10 CDL on arrival, at 9 pm 140 girls on leaving according to reception at this time. Today public holiday in Germany, the hut was well filled from about 7 pm and there were also plenty of pretty girls. I only had 1 room. And that was a hit. And I stopped where it was most beautiful for me, everything worked out, great sympathy and chemistry. I was "grocky" afterwards, deeply relaxed, just "full". Then I just enjoyed the atmosphere, chilled and let myself be sprinkled.

Valentina RO ("fresh in club" - speaks good German with an Austria accent, previously worked in the gastro industry in AT, today her 2nd day at Sharks), 25 years, 170 cm, CF 32/34, b-cups natural / firm / steep, hair dark brown, brown / green / blue eyes, medium skin, great white perfect teeth, very beautiful girl with a bombshell body, totally nice, humorous and open-minded. Drooling full service with deeper wet soft FK from the beginning, in between and when shooting away, everything safe, blow with a firm stroke, breasts touching and nipples sucking, facesitting with finger games outside and licking with fingers or thumbs in when lying on the back, pushing her pussy demanding on my mouth and pulls my head towards it, positions side missio / missio / rider with masturbation, she reaches for the body in the positions, actively participates, pleasant sighs, never used "Flutschi", circles while riding, pushes the pelvis back and forth, speed gets faster, moaning in the ears and more tongue smooching, I just press / hold against it, let them clap - "finito". Super hot act, no rush, completely relaxed room, time felt a bit over it, 100/30. She will find her place... got to know the front/bar/middle, then seen the back/bar/back right, finally bar chair/"German Corner" behind the restaurant..

Line Up - 7.6.

Not there: Catalea RO, Kim RO, Chayenne MD, Patricia MD, Julie MD, Melissa RO (red), Desiree MR, Liseth VE.

"Very slow business" at noon / afternoon, quit full from about 5 pm, full from about 7 pm, the public holiday "moves", more than enough guys there, on reception request at checkout currently 140 CDL inside, a group of Eastern Europeans was around 9 pm not allowed in because the front desk asked "insufficient" for German / English language skills.

Adriana RO (ex Ashley), Agnes PL, Alea GR, Alexis RO, Alia (Bosnian-Turkish), Alice RO, Alina MD (ex World), Alisha HU, Anja RO (tall, black hair, the-Cups silicone), Amy RO, Anastasia RO, Anjelica LV, Ayleen AT, Bianca RO (tall and blonde hair), Brenda RO, Cami RO, Camilla RO, Candy MD, Carla RO, Celine RO, Chanel HU, Chantal (German-Turkish, new), Chloe RO, Christina RO, Dasha PL (tall, blonde hair, see-Cups silicone, new), Dea RO, Debby DE, Dunja (Serbia, ex Jana), Esther RO, Francesca IT (or RO?, brown hair), Francesca RO (blonde hair), Gabriela RO, Ica (Serbian-Romanian), Ivana RO (ex Mainhattan), Jana DE, Jessy DE, Kaliste RO new, Katalina RO (ex "Sabina", ex Oase), Kaira (Serbian-Slovenian), Kisha KE (Blacky), Lara DE, Lea DE (blonde hair), Lena RO, Lilia DE, Liz RO, Liv RO (ex Becki), Lolita DE (Peru-Chile, born in DE, ex "Lola", ex Samya), Madalina RO new (glases, A-Cups, under the fishtank), Magda RO, Mara MD, Melanie RO, Melina RO (curly hair, afrostyle), Mirella RO, Miriam RO (ex "Estefania", ex Oase), Misha RO, Monica RO, Nelly RO, Nico RO, Rebecca RO (next to Brenda RO by the bar), Renata RO, Sabrina MD (ex World), Samara (Iranian-Bulgarian, ex GoldenTime and Globe), Samira RO, Samy RO, Sarah RO, Shania RO (ex "Isabella", ex Bahama and Atlanta), Shirin (Iranian-Bulgarian), Silvana IT, Sky RO, Sophia (Macedonia, dark blonde hair), Sylvia RO, Ulia RO (ex "Katharina", ex Julia), Valentina RO new, Vanessa RO (now with glases), Victoria CZ-RO (blonde hair), Victoria RO (black hair).

I wish you don't believe for 140 girls, when slow business at Sharks, except for few. Oulia is Austrian?

[Tintin1]

I believe this is far more complicated than that with things like changes in the law, circumstances brought on in the aftermath of the pandemic, and the behaviors of European customers themselves (the ones who are by far the most frequent and therefore most influential customers of the clubs) that have contributed to rising prices.

Yeah point taken I overstated my knee jerk reaction which was you can't blame one ethnic group I should have added "among other reasons" but we can debate all these points between rooms, beers, and checking out the girls.

[The Cane]

I don't need to come to the aid of Cane, he's a big boy. As to whether the prices being driven up- really? Not enough Asians to be the reason prices rise. All tourists yeah! But one particular ethnic group. Nah.

No you don't, and yes I am. This is one of those cases where the message is so weak, lame, and false that it doesn't even merit a response. I established my bona fides in the FKK threads a long time ago, and have nothing to prove. Points have been made and acknowledged by those with the experience and knowledge to confirm the existence and methods of the "Asian Hunter" across the whole of FKK club culture, whether it be at Sharks or at any other FKK club. That said, I still take issue with the assertion that it's only tourists (particularly Asians and Americans) who are responsible for "price creep". There's often a tendency to latch onto easy answers to complicated questions. I believe this is far more complicated than that with things like changes in the law, circumstances brought on in the aftermath of the pandemic, and the behaviors of European customers themselves (the ones who are by far the most frequent and therefore most influential customers of the clubs) that have contributed to rising prices.

[Member #4777]

After my trips to FKK Rom, Atlanta, Sharks, Mainhattan and Oase the last weeks, back at Sharks again yesterday at 12 noon today, around very early noon 10 CDL on arrival, at 9 pm 140 girls on leaving according to reception at this time. Today public holiday in Germany, the hut was well filled from about 7 pm and there were also plenty of pretty girls. I only had 1 room. And that was a hit. And I stopped where it was most beautiful for me, everything worked out, great sympathy and chemistry. I was "grocky" afterwards, deeply relaxed, just "full". Then I just enjoyed the atmosphere, chilled and let myself be sprinkled.

Valentina RO ("fresh in club" - speaks good German with an Austria accent, previously worked in the gastro industry in AT, today her 2nd day at Sharks), 25 years, 170 cm, CF 32/34, b-cups natural / firm / steep, hair dark brown, brown / green / blue eyes, medium skin, great white perfect teeth, very beautiful girl with a bombshell body, totally nice, humorous and open-minded. Drooling full service with deeper wet soft FK from the beginning, in between and when shooting away, everything safe, blow with a firm stroke, breasts touching and nipples sucking, facesitting with finger games outside and licking with fingers or thumbs in when lying on the back, pushing her pussy demanding on my mouth and pulls my head towards it, positions side missio / missio / rider with masturbation, she reaches for the body in the positions, actively participates, pleasant sighs, never used "Flutschi", circles while riding, pushes the pelvis back and forth, speed gets faster, moaning in the ears and more tongue smooching, I just press / hold against it, let them clap - "finito". Super hot act, no rush, completely relaxed room, time felt a bit over it, 100/30. She will find her place... got to know the front/bar/middle, then seen the back/bar/back right, finally bar chair/"German Corner" behind the restaurant..

Line Up - 7.6.

Not there: Catalea RO, Kim RO, Chayenne MD, Patricia MD, Julie MD, Melissa RO (red), Desiree MR, Liseth VE.

"Very slow business" at noon / afternoon, quit full from about 5 pm, full from about 7 pm, the public holiday "moves", more than enough guys there, on reception request at checkout currently 140 CDL inside, a group of Eastern Europeans was around 9 pm not allowed in because the front desk asked "insufficient" for German / English language skills.

Adriana RO (ex Ashley), Agnes PL, Alea GR, Alexis RO, Alia (Bosnian-Turkish), Alice RO, Alina MD (ex World), Alisha HU, Anja RO (tall, black hair, the-Cups silicone), Amy RO, Anastasia RO, Anjelica LV, Ayleen AT, Bianca RO (tall and blonde hair), Brenda RO, Cami RO, Camilla RO, Candy MD, Carla RO, Celine RO, Chanel HU, Chantal (German-Turkish, new), Chloe RO, Christina RO, Dasha PL (tall, blonde hair, see-Cups silicone, new), Dea RO, Debby DE, Dunja (Serbia, ex Jana), Esther RO, Francesca IT (or RO?, brown hair), Francesca RO (blonde hair), Gabriela RO, Ica (Serbian-Romanian), Ivana RO (ex Mainhattan), Jana DE, Jessy DE, Kaliste RO new, Katalina RO (ex "Sabina", ex Oase), Kaira (Serbian-Slovenian), Kisha KE (Blacky), Lara DE, Lea DE (blonde hair), Lena RO, Lilia DE, Liz RO, Liv RO (ex Becki), Lolita DE (Peru-Chile, born in DE, ex "Lola", ex Samya), Madalina RO new (glases, A-Cups, under the fishtank), Magda RO, Mara MD, Melanie RO, Melina RO (curly hair, afrostyle), Mirella RO, Miriam RO (ex "Estefania", ex Oase), Misha RO, Monica RO, Nelly RO, Nico RO, Rebecca RO (next to Brenda RO by the bar), Renata RO, Sabrina MD (ex World), Samara (Iranian-Bulgarian, ex GoldenTime and Globe), Samira RO, Samy RO, Sarah RO, Shania RO (ex "Isabella", ex Bahama and Atlanta), Shirin (Iranian-Bulgarian), Silvana IT, Sky RO, Sophia (Macedonia, dark blonde hair), Sylvia RO, Ulia RO (ex "Katharina", ex Julia), Valentina RO new, Vanessa RO (now with glases), Victoria CZ-RO (blonde hair), Victoria RO (black hair).

[Tintin1]

Cane when was your last visit at Sharks?

You mentioned that you don't like going to Sharks and you probably have not been there for a very long time. How can you right editorials or make comments on something that you have very little experience in the past 5 years? You belong in the So Paulo Brazilian forum where you have more experience with heavy set girls.

I don't need to come to the aid of Cane, he's a big boy. But if you've had a couple dozen visits to assorted FKKs then you have "observed" the fact that when an Asian man comes in they seems to get more scavengers attacking them than the average white guy. Just saying. Happens in almost every FKK I've sat in. Actually it's great people watching. And like any good used car salesman, I see guys like deer in headlights succumb quickly to the sell. So who's to say the girls are wrong. They make the sale!

As to whether the prices being driven up- really? Not enough Asians to be the reason prices rise. All tourists yeah! But one particular ethnic group. Nah.

[SobeLizard]

My "anecdotal evidence" said nothing about Asian customers driving up prices and was not meant to "justify bias". But, it was meant to give credence to the reality that "Asian Hunters" are a known quantity and are out to take advantage of Asian customers by providing subpar service while extracting as much money as possible at the same time. People can seek to draw whatever conclusions they would like to from that truth. And mongers who have been in this game for as long as I have know that a truism it is. Now, do I believe it serves to drive up pricing? No not necessarily, but it's not helping anything either.

Cane when was your last visit at Sharks?

You mentioned that you don't like going to Sharks and you probably have not been there for a very long time. How can you right editorials or make comments on something that you have very little experience in the past 5 years? You belong in the São Paulo Brazilian forum where you have more experience with heavy set girls.

[Manny51]

Asian guys are fascinated by white girls, just like many white guys are fascinated by asian girls. Not many white girls in these Asian countries, so a mongering trip to an FKK where there are dozens of hot ones walking around naked is a dream come true. Imagine these girls are walking around the FKK, repeatedly soliciting and getting rejected by Europeans or Americans who are sizing them up and trying to bargain down their price. When the women approach the Asian guys, they are eager to go and not so concerned about trying to bargain them down. Its not about asian guys being "desperate marks. " They are not paying more to make up for some perceived inferiority. They are paying more because they have the coin. They are eager, no hassle customers who are easy to please.

Its as simple as that. Its not rocket science.

Some of these recent comments sound like dog-whistle, backhanded racism to me. Any ruminations about "what people think of Asian men" or sexual performance just sounds like crap coming from bitter, cheap, cynical guys trying to rationalize the world around them with racist excuses. Inflation is making the price of everything go up around the world. Including ladies.

[Jmioffe]

My "anecdotal evidence" said nothing about Asian customers driving up prices and was not meant to "justify bias". But, it was meant to give credence to the reality that "Asian Hunters" are a known quantity and are out to take advantage of Asian customers by providing subpar service while extracting as much money as possible at the same time. People can seek to draw whatever conclusions they would like to from that truth. And mongers who have been in this game for as long as I have know that a truism it is. Now, do I believe it serves to drive up pricing? No not necessarily, but it's not helping anything either.

That's fine, but again, to the original question:

Why do people here seem to be more preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers than those on German boards?

I gave my theory but I have not heard any others, only more preoccupation.

[Artvand1]

go to clubs and escorts in Dubai, in Kazakhstan, in Barcelona, in London, in Moscow, in Copenhagen, in Sofia, . .

Would love to hear your Kazakhstan trip report. Thank you!

[The Cane]

I followed up, but I still can't get an answer to why people here seem to be more preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers than those on German boards. So far, everyone has just responded by just repeating why they're preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers ... which are just anecdotes justifying their bias.

My "anecdotal evidence" said nothing about Asian customers driving up prices and was not meant to "justify bias". But, it was meant to give credence to the reality that "Asian Hunters" are a known quantity and are out to take advantage of Asian customers by providing subpar service while extracting as much money as possible at the same time. People can seek to draw whatever conclusions they would like to from that truth. And mongers who have been in this game for as long as I have know that a truism it is. Now, do I believe it serves to drive up pricing? No not necessarily, but it's not helping anything either.

[Jmioffe]

I find it intriguing that this board seems to be more preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers than you see referenced on the German boards. I wonder what the reasoning behind this phenomenon.

I followed up, but I still can't get an answer to why people here seem to be more preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers than those on German boards.

So far, everyone has just responded by just repeating why they're preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers ... which are just anecdotes justifying their bias.

[Turgid]

......least masculine, least endowed......

In the mongering world this is the most desirable by the providers.

[Milfotronic]

Interesting point. This is an English-language board. Maybe racial identity as Asian works differently in the English-speaking world than the German one?

In the English-speaking world, Asian men have long been portrayed as the least desirable, least masculine, least endowed.

The participants on this board are not exactly the prime examples of manhood that could get women without paying for it. I imagine they still want to think they're above Asian men.

Yet, in the world of the FKK, customers are generally equal. The girls are not looking for love. If you're clean and can pay, your racial identity doesn't matter.

So I would bet it's a source of frustration for some customers that Asian customers are treated the same as they are. So they make up excuses that the Asian customers must be overpaying or that they have short sessions or their equipment is less taxing on the girls and so are desired more as customers.

I've seen some of these stereotypes about Asian men in German media as well though, so I'm surprised how less of an issue it is on German boards..

Wow, this was cringe.

OK, you're an Asian man. We get it.

[The Cane]

So I would bet it's a source of frustration for some customers that Asian customers are treated the same as they are. So they make up excuses that the Asian customers must be overpaying or that they have short sessions or their equipment is less taxing on the girls and so are desired more as customers. It could be that Germany also does not lean into racial hierarchies as heavily as the United States and other English-speaking countries do.

"Asian Hunting" is a well-known and well-studied phenomenon that occurs within the FKK club culture. And the girls who engage in it have no intention of treating Asian customers the same as every other customer. No, their aim is to engage in graft. To reap the most money while doing as little as possible in return for it. They target Asian men because they know many of them will not demand much and will seek to maintain their composure and avoid a nasty public confrontation at all cost in order to save face, if not their money (yes this is a "real thing" in many Asian cultures). So, they go after these Asian men knowing they can get one over on them. Over and over an over again. With little to no risk of any adverse consequences. These men won't even go and lodge a complaint at the front desk.

I was at Palace once and a small group of Asian men came in. There were a couple of girls who were right on them. In short order one was off to the room with an Asian customer. I decided to time how long they were in there, and I saw that they were back on the floor in a mere 15 minutes! She was all smiles, and it was easy to understand why. She didn't "session" with the guy. No, she "processed" him. Another time I was at Samya talking to two really white-skinned, blonde Romanians (they exist) who admitted to being "Asian Hunters" and stood there laughing about it. Before long a Japanese guy walked in and one of those white "blondies" the Japanese men love so much was right on him, and in no time (I'd say less than a minute) they were off to a room. Just like that! She looked back at me and grinned and winked. Time to rip off yet another Asian customer with a subpar performance at a premium rate.

Now, I had to literally laugh out loud at the last sentence of your post that I quoted! Really? First of all, here again is another attempt to "blame it on the Americans" when we all know full well that plenty of the folks in here complaining about Asians driving up prices aren't Americans. That's a fact Jack! But even more pointedly, do I need to remind which country it is that you're comparing the United Stated to? That would be the one that gave the world the Nazis which was obsessed with racial hierarchy. And if you somehow believe that's all gone away and none of it remains within the conscience of German people at all, then I have a bridge to Brooklyn that I would like to sell you. I'll give you a good price too! LOL LMAO!

[Jmioffe]

I find it intriguing that this board seems to be more preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers than you see referenced on the German boards. I wonder what the reasoning behind this phenomenon.

Interesting point. This is an English-language board. Maybe racial identity as Asian works differently in the English-speaking world than the German one?

In the English-speaking world, Asian men have long been portrayed as the least desirable, least masculine, least endowed.

The participants on this board are not exactly the prime examples of manhood that could get women without paying for it. I imagine they still want to think they're above Asian men.

Yet, in the world of the FKK, customers are generally equal. The girls are not looking for love. If you're clean and can pay, your racial identity doesn't matter.

So I would bet it's a source of frustration for some customers that Asian customers are treated the same as they are. So they make up excuses that the Asian customers must be overpaying or that they have short sessions or their equipment is less taxing on the girls and so are desired more as customers.

I've seen some of these stereotypes about Asian men in German media as well though, so I'm surprised how less of an issue it is on German boards.

But then again, German media may also just be picking up on cues from Hollywood. And many of the girls are from Eastern Europe, which does not portray Asian men in the same way.

The Bob Dylan / Johnny Cash of Russia, Viktor Tsoi, was an Asian man. The English-speaking world has no equivalent.

It could be that Germany also does not lean into racial hierarchies as heavily as the United States and other English-speaking countries do.