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  1. #27699
    I can pay 150/60 for a GFE really kissing, natural beauty, I even paid 200/60 for chic elegant who was wow in bed, I paid 200 because we don t see many like her in whole FKK land, not any at Globe where I would have paid 300/60 for lower quality. But my problem is huge increasing for rate when fall for quality, when Kity, Bibi are low level for sex and not many looks worth I pay for. Same like at Globe, more expensive for lower quality than on 2021. If I mistook Barbi with Bibi, my big apologize to Barbi, when I was meaning Bibi who wanted 200/60 but not able to kiss. Only Sofi. De and chic elegant German worthing to repeat on this year. No repeat at Globe among 6/7 girls, when I repeated many times at Freubad with 3, my best club on 2022.

  2. #27698

    Good point, well made

    Quote Originally Posted by FakeIt  [View Original Post]
    I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.
    My sentiments exactly. This has been much discussed in several threads recently. As I have said before it's not unreasonable for prices to increase, let's face it 50 Eu was a steal before. A lot of contributors point out the 100% increase and I get where they are coming from, I'd agree that 70/80 for 30 minutes and 120/130 for 60 minutes would be better but we just have to either accept it or as a point of principle not even attend. But as has been said, there is more than enough customers willing to pay 100/30 to keep the girls happy. As for bartering a trade-off for time, really? Do you want to look cheap for such a small amount of money? No doubt in ten years or so time we will be having the same convos when it goes to 150/30.

  3. #27697
    Quote Originally Posted by FakeIt  [View Original Post]
    I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.
    Sharks is really not at best for looks with only very few pretties: Kity, Katalea, Teodora, and most not even french kissing for 100/30 . My advice: don t pay extra for FK when You will receive little girl kisses. Bad value for most girls. Better value elsewhere in Germany in NRW or 6 ens stuck to Aachen. On last Saturday, I witnessed slow business and pretties really not busy, one needing to hunt now. But hot water was working.

  4. #27696
    Quote Originally Posted by FakeIt  [View Original Post]
    More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored.
    And more importantly, it will result in precisely what he had: bad rooms with bored women who accepted to go only for him to stop bothering them.

    The funniest is that he paid 50€ for 15 minutes rooms with no blowjob. And some praised him when he posted it's report in September, hilarious.

  5. #27695
    Quote Originally Posted by KingAmir  [View Original Post]
    I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).

    I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.

    We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.

    Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?

    We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.

    The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.

    Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.

    I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.

    Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power!
    I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.

  6. #27694

    RE: I fucked hot girls for 50, after talking with them nicely

    Amir your majesty, thank you for the post. I can add this: most young turkish boys in Samya pay girls only 50 or don't go. Yes, 10-20 minutes is the time expected on both sides of the transaction. The girls go with them without much dispute, (a) because the boys are regulars or semi-regulars and (b) because on slow nights (no messe, no tourists) they are the customer majority and (c) room straightforwardness CBJ suck and fuck in a couple of positions. May not be kind of service for everyone, but my respect to young guys in Samya. They already doing firmly what you are addressing here.

  7. #27693
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    As a general rule what I've seen, is the more a country becomes developed, the less WGs are available from said country.

    I would also agree with your assessment that I've had excellent service from Germans, while Romanians / Moldavians / eastern European can be hit or miss. And I do believe I missed the golden years as well where there were more polish, Czech, etc. around and for get cheaper prices.
    5 Germans on not finished yet 2022 for me. 2 really top level. 0 with silicon.

  8. #27692
    Quote Originally Posted by WaterMeltingg  [View Original Post]
    After reading your post it feels like, I missed the golden years of mongering at FKK Clubs. I have been active since few years. I've always seen German, Polish or Czech girls in minority. Personally I get more interested in girls if they come from one of these countries. Earlier I thought, reason for that might be, they are not available in abundance.
    As a general rule what I've seen, is the more a country becomes developed, the less WGs are available from said country.

    I would also agree with your assessment that I've had excellent service from Germans, while Romanians / Moldavians / eastern European can be hit or miss. And I do believe I missed the golden years as well where there were more polish, Czech, etc. around and for get cheaper prices.

  9. #27691

    I fucked hot girls for 50, after talking with them nicely

    I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).

    I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.

    We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.

    Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?

    We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.

    The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.

    Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.

    I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.

    Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power!

  10. #27690
    Quote Originally Posted by BackpackBrian  [View Original Post]
    I was at Sharks mid October and mid November and if you arrive early in the day (2-4 PM) there are lots of girls that will charge 50430 for BBBJ and CFS, you will just have to ask around.

    Disclaimer. As the hours pass and the evening girls arrive with men getting off work and the club getting busier, it will be harder to find 430 sessions as demand increases.

    I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.
    On this Saturday, from 4 pm to 3 am, slow business, many girls without business, but I didn't see many I would spend 50 for. When I find a beauty like Kity, 0 GFE, low level for sex, I could fuck her whole night, I would never finish.

  11. #27689
    Quote Originally Posted by BackpackBrian  [View Original Post]
    I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.
    The best thing to do is to name those girls so they are rewarded with more customers!

  12. #27688
    Quote Originally Posted by BackpackBrian  [View Original Post]
    Technically, yes, they can enter!

    But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.

    To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.

    In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:

    1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.

    2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.

    3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.

    A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.

    Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.

    Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?

    Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.

    This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.

    I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.
    After reading your post it feels like, I missed the golden years of mongering at FKK Clubs. I have been active since few years. I've always seen German, Polish or Czech girls in minority. Personally I get more interested in girls if they come from one of these countries. Earlier I thought, reason for that might be, they are not available in abundance.

    But I must say, some of them have provided best service, I have had in my mongering career. And of course they look quite hot and different than romanian girls. Not to say, some of romanian girls are also damn beautiful. But when it comes to service they are not all the same.

    Some romanian girls are well mannered and polite and deliver super service, whereas many of them are a rip off. They team up with other girls, and their sole goal is to get money out of customer without doing anything. Some of them doesn't really know how to behave with a customer. They bully and shout at customer. I have witnessed it at Sharks. Not sure if they are from particular region in Romania. This behaviour from a group bad girls, damages whole community coming from that country.

  13. #27687

    Lots of girls still charge 50 E for 30 min October and November 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Jolokia  [View Original Post]
    Can confirm plenty of hot waters, nice showers and zimmer heat at Sharks November 2022. And sharks roster have lots to choose, and no wait for rooms at all on weekend compare to better times before pandemic.

    150460 accepted, and maybe you can negotiate even better. But don't let girl cheat you into 200460. With so much inflations and weak Euro currency this year, even 150460 is already overprice and have driven many customer away. That is why waiting 15 minutes for zimmer at sharks on Friday und Saturday nights like 2018 is never happen again. A lot of men now can no longer afford enjoy FKK as often or at all with the unrealistic price girls wishing for.
    I was at Sharks mid October and mid November and if you arrive early in the day (2-4 PM) there are lots of girls that will charge 50430 for BBBJ and CFS, you will just have to ask around.

    Disclaimer. As the hours pass and the evening girls arrive with men getting off work and the club getting busier, it will be harder to find 430 sessions as demand increases.

    I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.

  14. #27686
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolokia  [View Original Post]
    Top girls? For looks I have enjoy aesthetic like ex-Sharks Viol (etta), natural athletic taller build with elegant nordic hints. Like you my friend Sirioja I'm jajaja when I see short duckling walk drag the butt on ground.

    For services, I think best services ever ex-Sharks was Inca. Inka? Ex-Sharks Janine reincarnate. Lots of beautiful oral variation, and she gift many special hip movement for each positions (even while she laying flat during normal) during better days of 100460. Inca was complete opposite of and antidote for dead fish sex my ex-wife give.

    But alas I never lucky enough met a girl with both Viol's look aesthetic plus Inca's talent.
    Don't remember a wow look Violetta at Sharks, but only visited around 10 times on 2022, when had better other clubs. I saw Viorica playing on lounge entry table on this Saturday. Was Inca short, sitting at bottom of stairs to room? I saw so many girls almost without business on this Saturday, even the very few pretties. When I remember how Katalea was on highest Globe level when she arrived and now needing to hunt to find business for fast 15 minutes rooms, when I remember quality of our twice 1 hour on my visits, I m sad to see her fall. Sharks girls are succeeding to fuck their own business, asking so expensive for low quality when much higher quality on 2021 . As I told another french, I don't even rank Sharks in my top 3 on 2022 in Germany for value for money and casting quality. I advice lovely Alina and Sabina, both blond, sitting between ex kino and stairs to jacuzzis close to TV screen. On my around 10 visits, only Sofi. De and chic elegant German worth to repeat.

  15. #27685
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I like Romanian girls but when German, Polish, Czech etc. girls were in abundance was much better.
    I have had some amazing experiences with Czech and Polish girls. I find them not only more beautiful and hotter but also their service was up to the notch. Finally I depends on the girl but most of the girls I had from Czech were damn good in bed.

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