FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[ParSeeker]

I have been in sharks more than 250 x since 2012.

But after corona break, things become worse and worse!

From 2013 - 2020 I never asked a girl for her price, because I know it and always paid 100/ h with GFE, DFK.

But now you always have to negotiate for the price before the room and often in the room or after the room.

And this is not just few girls, it does almost all girls even the ugly.

Its time to say goodbye to sharks.

I tend to agree. The girls have become too greedy for their own good. Fortunately, after 3 days of Sharks I was able to enjoy a Saturday at Oase and after that went with a friend to FKK Wellcum in Austria. The base price is 70/30 and plenty of girls are more than happy to receive that or 70/30 + tip. No unnecessary haggling on upselling. Lots of fresh girls willing to please. 7 girls in 3 days.

[Escape Artist]

I've only seen maybe 15 girls total in FKKs in my life so I guess my experience is limited, but the times where a girl has upcharged, she always gives a warning. Outside the room, I first list the main things I want (ie, bbj, CIM, DFK, "sex" It can be hard to list everything one might upcharge for. Then I agree on the TOTAL cost for the session.

In the room, maybe I lick her nipples or start using tongue, etc. This is when she will stop and say "that's extra". I'll decline and move on (or pay if I want).

I've never finished the session THEN been told that the cost is more because of something she or I did. I had a few times where it was less.

If that happened, I'd argue that she should have said something and it's too late now.

Now, these days, I pretty much can only do one session. If I do a second, I have trouble finishing. So at this point, it is pretty easy to just walk out of there. If you planned to be there all day and the first girl tried to scam you, I guess it could be more problematic or at least more of a loss if you walked out.

Keep up the hobby and unless you are meticulous and insist on hammering all pricing details every time and you'll eventually get it every so often. I've been doing this for 15 years and a girl tried it last week. Usually it's the girl trying to see what she can get but has no intent on going to reception. I usually just give her the amount I calculate and gracefully say goodbye. Every time, the girl will be pleasant when she sees me again and several I have sessioned with again later.

[Turgid]

I disagree here. If prices have not been mentioned before, you are entitled to not pay. It did happen to me several times and I refused and that was fine.

I also posted a few weeks ago that I had a girl who immediately bump up the prices as soon as I entered the room. I immediately left, she tried to block the door but I manage to get out. I did not pay anything. So indeed best advice is to leave the room if nothing has started.

Get yourself some balls guys because it's sad to read how weak some of you have become.

Some guys only have cajones when they are anonymous on a mongering site. Do not pay when management tells you to pay and I can assure you that security will de-ball you, LOL.

[Escape Artist]

The way you handle a scammer is to hang around and warn anyone she tries to pick up. When you cost her a few clients, she will get the message clearly. The risk is her pump my beat you up when you leave.

But it will have an ill effect on the other women too. Girls know the guys who talk too much so even if you are outing a scammer, other girls will only take notice that you are one of the guys with a big mouth. Having a short emotional memory is better. A little warning to an occasional innocent monger with discretion would be benevolent, but being on a mission to call out a scammer in a business built around fantasies is probably not the best move.

[Bonsai]

I have been in sharks more than 250 x since 2012.

But after corona break, things become worse and worse!

From 2013 - 2020 I never asked a girl for her price, because I know it and always paid 100€/ h with GFE, DFK.

But now you always have to negotiate for the price before the room and often in the room or after the room.

And this is not just few girls, it does almost all girls even the ugly.

Its time to say goodbye to sharks.

[Sirioja]

I've only seen maybe 15 girls total in FKKs in my life so I guess my experience is limited, but the times where a girl has upcharged, she always gives a warning. Outside the room, I first list the main things I want (ie, bbj, CIM, DFK, "sex" It can be hard to list everything one might upcharge for. Then I agree on the TOTAL cost for the session.

In the room, maybe I lick her nipples or start using tongue, etc. This is when she will stop and say "that's extra". I'll decline and move on (or pay if I want).

I've never finished the session THEN been told that the cost is more because of something she or I did. I had a few times where it was less.

If that happened, I'd argue that she should have said something and it's too late now.

Now, these days, I pretty much can only do one session. If I do a second, I have trouble finishing. So at this point, it is pretty easy to just walk out of there. If you planned to be there all day and the first girl tried to scam you, I guess it could be more problematic or at least more of a loss if you walked out.

If the girl doesn't inform you during room, which would be really killing desire for me, then don't pay extra asked at lockers. Don't show your money to girls, don t say you are newbie and if you accept to be fucked, many girls of the club will know about you very fast, when girl who fucked you will tell you are easy, except if you made her really cum and she wants to keep your talent only for her.

[Sirioja]

The way you handle a scammer is to hang around and warn anyone she tries to pick up. When you cost her a few clients, she will get the message clearly. The risk is her pump my beat you up when you leave.

My advice is to be careful for this about entry side bar girls when you could have problem if they complain to staff, but I advice to avoid most of them when upselling to fuck tourists specialists. New rule at Sharks seems to be the most expensive for the lowest level, when can have some on the highest level for 150/60 with FK, DATY and BBBJ and no upselling but friendly behavior if you don't play like a tourist, even being a foreigner like me, when some Germans pay now crazy rates for just little Romanians, nothing about height but potential.

[Enphl]

I've only seen maybe 15 girls total in FKKs in my life so I guess my experience is limited, but the times where a girl has upcharged, she always gives a warning. Outside the room, I first list the main things I want (ie, bbj, CIM, DFK, "sex" It can be hard to list everything one might upcharge for. Then I agree on the TOTAL cost for the session.

In the room, maybe I lick her nipples or start using tongue, etc. This is when she will stop and say "that's extra". I'll decline and move on (or pay if I want).

I've never finished the session THEN been told that the cost is more because of something she or I did. I had a few times where it was less.

If that happened, I'd argue that she should have said something and it's too late now.

Now, these days, I pretty much can only do one session. If I do a second, I have trouble finishing. So at this point, it is pretty easy to just walk out of there. If you planned to be there all day and the first girl tried to scam you, I guess it could be more problematic or at least more of a loss if you walked out.

[Escape Artist]

I think this is the same girl who scammed me as well, Sharks is becoming more of a tourist trap full of scammers. Even if you involve management, they are going to back fire at you and make you feel more bad.

I accepted it when girls took 150/ hour with good service but now 200/ HR is such a prevalent asking rate. At this point, I just check in once a trip to see the best optics but it's not a great place to find a wow room with a higher tier girl for a fair rate. At this age on a week long or 2 week trip, a girl who is distant in the room will make me go soft so quick. I'll surely stop coming when my regulars are all gone.

[Sirioja]

The girl I'm thinking of was part of the Romanian crew with Madalena (another known Asian hunter, at least before she fixed her funky tooth that appeals to Japanese guys. Is she still around?) and Ellie (dark haired, a little older and less stunning).

The Emma I'm thinking about has blonde and dark red hair, but often gets the comparison because she has those dark eyebrows and a bit of resting b***h face. Pretty smart and personable, kind of a droll sense of humor, never got the sharky vibe from her.

They used to camp out on the right side of the bar near the front and entrance rather than the back. All small girlish bodies. Sounds like she may be a different girl.

If You mean long time Madalina with beautiful eyes sitting on stairs side of bar, I saw her on my last visits after Summer. Since long time we know and when she knows for me and Megan, I always found her friendly. For other friendly, Sena, Sabrina and Alina with who we joke about her business.

Amazing to read on German lustscout, many Sharks girls ask 100 per 30 for basic, FK if they are really able for extra, BBBJ for extra, so can reach 200/30 or 300/60 . These girls are really crazy, they should look in mirror, when German escorts are much less expensive and much better values in other clubs. Some are still available for 150 for 1 very full hour and even a bit extended at Sharks.

[Sirioja]

Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.

Then, if You started to touch her, as soon she tries to fuck You upselling, should happen before 30 mn, then stop and leave, giving her only 50 for less than 30 disappointing minutes and nobody can ask You to pay more expensive for such short time shit. When girls think we are led by between our legs, the girl should be so surprised You leave the bed and the room and she has to run after You downstairs, she should go straight in lockers to hide with her 50 . Better to waste only 50 than more expensive for shit. On a bad day at Sharks, when no wow, I mistook for my choice for Kloe even I find her attractive for look. As usual, rather than playing grocery which kill magic for my desire, no question, let s go and discover for 100/30 , but on bed I felt she is too professionnal to make magic for me, so I told her it didn t work for me, even it was my first room of day after many hours since I arrived. She proposed me to do more, but magic had gone, I apologized and she was very honest with me, not trying to argue. Too professionnal for my GFE which need no grocery and no money talk, but very honest, even she was not busy, like often, even one of the most attractive for look. I hate to have to beg, I prefer to stay full balls, when my brain control everything. As say girls: You control everything. These girls are not used to guys like me.

[Akibono]

Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.

The way you handle a scammer is to hang around and warn anyone she tries to pick up. When you cost her a few clients, she will get the message clearly. The risk is her pump my beat you up when you leave.

[The Cane]

Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.

If we started kissing and I felt up her tits and ass, then OK I would pay her 50 just to keep the peace. If she sucked my dick bare then 100 total. But other than that, I'm not paying her a damn cent more if we got in there and I cut the session really short (well within the first 30 minutes) because of her unethical bullshit. I'm walking out of there. And if management doesn't like it, then I'm leaving the club too. Now, lucky for me I have never had to cross this kind of Rubicon. I've written before, that before going to the room, I'm the kind of monger who always makes it perfectly clear what services I want, and what I'm willing to pay. I get full agreement beforehand, and luckily for me this has never failed at an FKK. I get mutual understanding and agreement from the girl, and nobody has ever tried to renege.

But if they did, I would have no qualms about walking out (and did so on a Mexican girl in Tijuana once and paid nothing with no club consequences). To prevent problems, I always encourage guys to clearly ask so that they may undoubtedly receive. Engage in a little friendly negotiation. It doesn't have to be hard bargaining. But don't sit there and try to act like you're picking somebody up at a "normal" club. You're not. So get the deal done before you go to the room. And as soon as she starts to renege on a major "clause"? End the session and leave immediately. You might still have to pay something for any time and services rendered, but I'm sure if enough guys did this to the scammers eventually the club will understand exactly what they're doing and get rid of them. The clubs do want happy, paying customers without any of the drama.

[Prelude141]

Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.

I disagree here. If prices have not been mentioned before, you are entitled to not pay. It did happen to me several times and I refused and that was fine.

I also posted a few weeks ago that I had a girl who immediately bump up the prices as soon as I entered the room. I immediately left, she tried to block the door but I manage to get out. I did not pay anything. So indeed best advice is to leave the room if nothing has started.

Get yourself some balls guys because it's sad to read how weak some of you have become.

[Turgid]

When You make mistake to go with such behavior, my advice is: as soon she tries to fuck You, leave the room immediatly and don t pay anything and try next. ......

Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.