FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[AlexEurope]

The only positive side I see now is when business is back to usual, status quo with 50/30 as normal will most likely be restored for a while.

Even if world recovers from virus in 2-3 months, it will take economy at least 2-3 years to recover.

[Dupont88]

I don't agree with you.

IMHO They told this but is a fake.

Yesterday 368 death more than the worst day in China.

I make a prevision now that will be more coronav death in Italy than China.

Then they will speak than Italian people are more aged etc.

IMHO truth is that in the hospital continues to spread the disease.

No mask face no suits etc.

IMHO doctors spread virus from one patients to another.

Then the emergency unit are full and people died.

In MHO right now are making euthanasia.

Today 475 Italian death a number never reached in one day in China.

[ExpatLover]

If you know the stats, the reason deaths are high is because the hospital system is breaking down. There are not enough ventilators. When the virus destroys your lungs, you need one to breathe. Otherwise, your organs die from lack of oxygen. If you cannot get access, you will die. The system does not have thousands with the nurses trained to operate them. They are only saving the ones who are young and healthy. They are not saving the old and people with severe medical probl.

Correct also 1 patient needs to be ventilated 2 to 3 weeks, with news comers every hour it is impossible to manage, the only solution is to implement a hard quarantine in the early stage like in China but impossible to achieve in Europe due to the mixity of the population and the sleeping governments, so there will be lot of deaths.

[Pistons]

So, not wishing to sound like Cathy Newman, what he's saying is;

1) Coronaviruses are present in the population at all times.

2) The test for COVID-19 was hurried through so there could be an issue with it and we actually know fuck all about this virus.

3) If you only test people who are already sick with other conditions, you will end up with an artificially high death rate because their immune system is already compromised and it's difficult to determine which factor was the actual cause of death. (COVID-19 or parachute failing to open?)

4) This will be used as an excuse to increase state power, big brother etc.

My question would be; has there been a statistically significant increase in ICU and mortuary admissions compared to the same period of time in years past? If there has been, then determine the cause.

1. Probably true. Both me and most people I know where I live was probably infected with the virus about 2 weeks ago. That was pretty much when there were close to zero confirmed cases here. I was lazy and had to cut down my trips to the gym from 4/5 a week, where I should be at two weeks ago, to only 2. And most people even at the university right next to my place were having the same stories. Just substantial loss of energy for about a week, and I felt like resting alot more than usual. Second week (last week), I was having slight short breaths. Now I've been told there are no need to test myself unless I feel sick. But if this was really it, then it was far milder than the seasonal flu in my case at least. I suppose it hits different people differently. And perhaps different age groups also. Perhaps there is also a genetic variable as well.

2. One of the tests I just read about only managed to be find the virus in 33% of the cases. That was the needle in the finger test. And it didn't seem like they knew how accurate the normal tests are, but that was what they compared it to. I guess it all depends on what you compare a test with.

3. As I mentioned, I am actually starting to believe that the epidemic has passed. At least in the urban area where I live. Then again, there are rumored to be 2 or even 3 versions of the virus floating around, so perhaps this was the light one. If, and its a big if, I am correct. But the idea has come up by some friends as well during the past few days.

4. Well, some Big Brother increases are probably good. As long as it doesn't influence our mongering habits. Then I am all for it. When looking at future AI improvements, and automation, I think it will make our lives a lot easier. And it will cut costs on most things. Perhaps even Americans will one day start skiing too, instead of calling it a rich mans sport. When the expensive rural resorts in North America are automated that is. Or we can take half the year off work, to go snorkling or diving in the Bahamas, Indonesia or Polynesia? Maybe even get a new slave (see Altered Carbon), and have nano-robots in our bodies, stretching our muscles. Then we don't even have to go to the gym. And you could hop into a Romanian woman's body, because some Big Brother AI already scanned her, and got her DNA from her passport five years ago. You all know that's what you really want. Then you can earn some extra money at Sharks too! Hehe.

[Akibono]

We can only speculate on the reasons, but probably another important factor is the high density of population. Northern Italy has one of the highest densities in the world, if I'm not wrong second only to Japan. So the virus spread faster. As for the ageing population, I'm not sure that this may be the only factor. Germany has similar trends, Japan has even older population. Yet, Germany is quite likely hiding the real data of infection and death rates.

If you know the stats, the reason deaths are high is because the hospital system is breaking down. There are not enough ventilators. When the virus destroys your lungs, you need one to breathe. Otherwise, your organs die from lack of oxygen. If you cannot get access, you will die. The system does not have thousands with the nurses trained to operate them. They are only saving the ones who are young and healthy. They are not saving the old and people with severe medical problems.

[ExpatLover]

In Germany, Chancellor Merkel said theaters, museums, restaurants and other public venues must all close until further notice.

The text is clear all FKK, brothel will be closed, when it will be a decision taken by each land.

[Citizen Kane]

The government said that the move was to ensure that "service providers and craftsmen can continue to carry out their trade".

I sense an FKK loophole...

[AlexEurope]

In Germany, Chancellor Merkel said theaters, museums, restaurants and other public venues must all close until further notice.

[Dupont88]

Covid-19 is fucking dangerous also because may lead healthcare systems on the verge of collapse. This is just what is happening in Northern Italy, which - still - has one of the most efficient health systems in the world. Quarantine measures are apparently needed not because of the death rate of Coronavirus in and of itself, but because the first waves of Covid-19 outbreak suddendly saturate health infrastructures. There are some pics from Italy that are quite impressive in that regard.

I don't agree with you.

IMHO They told this but is a fake.

Yesterday 368 death more than the worst day in China.

I make a prevision now that will be more coronav death in Italy than China.

Then they will speak than Italian people are more aged etc.

IMHO truth is that in the hospital continues to spread the disease.

No mask face no suits etc.

IMHO doctors spread virus from one patients to another.

Then the emergency unit are full and people died.

In MHO right now are making euthanasia.

[Skepti10]

Northern Italy has one of the highest densities in the world, if I'm not wrong second only to Japan.

That really doesn't seem right.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...ed-cities.html

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...the-world.html

[PunterWanderer]

Oh, it's obvious. Those who are worried are not it the club now.

Surely these events are going to lock mongering down in German clubs for months. And they will affect our hobby in general. I'm not even in continental Europe, yet today I just got what I think will be my last punt for the next months.

[PunterWanderer]

"The corona hype is not based on any extraordinary public health danger. However, it causes considerable damage to our freedom and personal rights through frivolous and unjustified quarantine measures and restrictions. The images in the media are frightening and the traffic in China's cities seems to be regulated by the clinical thermometer

https://youtu.be/p_AyuhbnPOI

Covid-19 is fucking dangerous also because may lead healthcare systems on the verge of collapse. This is just what is happening in Northern Italy, which - still - has one of the most efficient health systems in the world. Quarantine measures are apparently needed not because of the death rate of Coronavirus in and of itself, but because the first waves of Covid-19 outbreak suddendly saturate health infrastructures. There are some pics from Italy that are quite impressive in that regard.

[PunterWanderer]

I will say though, the death rate in Italy is by far the highest. I guess you would say that is because too many infections happened too quickly, the system could not cope, and many people died due to lack of treatment? Or is it because Italy has an older population? Whatever the case maybe it is true Italy is seeing a faster growth of infections and also the highest mortality rate neither of which reflects well on their overall country, sad to say.

We can only speculate on the reasons, but probably another important factor is the high density of population. Northern Italy has one of the highest densities in the world, if I'm not wrong second only to Japan. So the virus spread faster. As for the ageing population, I'm not sure that this may be the only factor. Germany has similar trends, Japan has even older population. Yet, Germany is quite likely hiding the real data of infection and death rates.

[ExpatLover]

Oh, it's obvious. Those who are worried are not it the club now.

It seems Shark will close tomorrow.

[JamieJamie35]

Hibeveryone.