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  1. #24455
    Quote Originally Posted by RockyV  [View Original Post]
    Did you expect that a Green candidate would stalk a group of feminists and, as soon as these started a protest in front of a FKK, he would then tackle them to the ground and have them arrested? If you want that type of society, I'd suggest you to move to North Korea.
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Sounds more like you're the one who should move to North Korea if you think it's alright to act as the crazy feminazis did. You're such a tool. The feminazis were the ones harassing a legal business and it's customers, not the other way around.
    Is it the way the green or other politicians do their moves? Have you ever seen the smart politicians do in that way??

    Anyone sensible will know that Politicians are smart people and will raise the issue in smarter ways to get a better impact with less efforts.

    What they will normally do is to keep the issue to become afloat and become a public awareness, so more people will subscribe to their policy for their own or party advantage. They will get more political gain hoping people voting for them. They then try to push it to become a law.

    Like ShooBree you are the one who should move to North Korea if you think it is ok to do like what Feminists have been doing to destroy the FKK business and demonising those who visited the FKKs. Also, it is not the duty of politicians to ambush the protesters, push them to the ground and arrest people. It is the police duty. Do that in any civilised nation, you are the person who will get arrested or get sued.

    Again keep in mind FKK and visiting FKK is legal in Germany.

  2. #24454
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Some guys prefer companionship, some pay big money for this for hours, at LR. Some pay to sleep in room, or to drink and smoke, or to chat, to gossip, in couch or in room. Some prefer to massage girls rather than fucking. We are all different, we look for different services with girls.

    As I always said to my past LR weekly regular: I don't pay for time out of room, she always answered: Do I ask you something for this? Liar but very honest about money, Romanian asking not to go with other girls after our fourth room, on our second day.
    Some here I do not pay for the time outside the hours in the room, if I want to pay more I will normally take extra services for an extra fees. This is not because I could not effort to pay for it I just do not want to give a bad precedent for my other fellow mongers.

    What a person do is his personal business, but keep in mind your action will affect other visitors and soon become an expectation. Tipping might be common in the country like in the US as the people like waitress are getting a very low wage and expect to top up their salaries with tips. But in Europe every worker even those who are doing menial jobs, get the same minimum wage.

  3. #24453
    Quote Originally Posted by RockyV  [View Original Post]
    Did you expect that a Green candidate would stalk a group of feminists and, as soon as these started a protest in front of a FKK, he would then tackle them to the ground and have them arrested? If you want that type of society, I'd suggest you to move to North Korea.
    Sounds more like you're the one who should move to North Korea if you think it's alright to act as the crazy feminazis did. You're such a tool. The feminazis were the ones harassing a legal business and it's customers, not the other way around.

  4. #24452
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    I might be "dumb" but at least I understand what "nuanced" means. Maybe you can google it. Yes, I make plenty of mistakes in life. There is no shame in making mistakes unless you fail to learn from them. And as for the hateful anti-American rhetoric, that just makes you look small my friend. We might have been late to the party, but we saved your sorry asses all the same. From both of my grandfathers who bled for you Euros, Cheers!
    I don't think HammerTime is saying all Americans are "dumb"; he's just pointing out the "dumb" ones who support failed "socialist propaganda", that's all. I am an American, and I agree with him. Do you?

  5. #24451
    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheG  [View Original Post]
    Sally speaks German but has Turkish roots, a Turkish passport. An elegant looking beautiful woman. With regards to your "noble knight phantasies": it is her business, she really don't need you to help her, she knows how to help herself!
    In Norway all the right wing parties are for legalizing it fully, even buying and not just selling (they even have it stated in the election program. But they had the same 4 years ago, and nothing happened even if they won the election. The greens are a left wing party and everything I can find relates to it is that the females of the green party are against legalizing it. The socialist party have always been handing out condoms to everyone, but both the socialists and the labor party on the left side are against prostitution. (because the voters cannot afford it?

    So the divide is quite clear here. Yes and no on the political right-left axis.

    But ideologically all the liberal parties should be for prostitution. Even the greens. But I suspect the greens have a lot of poor voters. And they cannot afford p6, or are afraid of their husband going to one. So they ditch the official liberal stance for selfish reasons.

  6. #24450
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?

    You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.

    There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).

    The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/w...amsterdam.html

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19...n-sex-workers/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-tourism-reset

    In Amsterdam this is just the first step towards the Swedish model. The socialists got their votes from horny voters and 'progressives' in the past during the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's, but now the "me-too" and radical feminists are in control and dictate the agenda, and not just in the Green parties, but also in the CDU, SPD, FDP and VVD.

    Look at all the Labour Party mayors of Amsterdam, and look at who is the current mayor of Amsterdam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_of_Amsterdam#Early_20 th_century.

    Why do you think YingYang has been closed in Roermond? Or LR in Kaarst? Hint: radical feminist female mayors!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rianne_Donders-de_Leest

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaarst#Politics.

    Here is another example: in the French speaking part of Belgium, the P.S. (Parti Socialiste) has been in power for decades, yet P6 is very limited and sparse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Belgium)#Walloon_Parliament.

    No big RLD or sex club with a good international reputation can be found in the Walloon region. Why is Belgium's biggest RLD located in the Dutch-Flemish speaking part of Belgium? Could it be because culturally speaking, the Flemish are much closer to the Dutch, and the Walloons much closer to the French? Why is GT in Brggen full of French and Belgiums and even Luxemburgers?

    Please save us your socialist propaganda, and stick to being the dumb uninformed American with his J&J jabs!
    I might be "dumb" but at least I understand what "nuanced" means. Maybe you can google it. Yes, I make plenty of mistakes in life. There is no shame in making mistakes unless you fail to learn from them. And as for the hateful anti-American rhetoric, that just makes you look small my friend. We might have been late to the party, but we saved your sorry asses all the same. From both of my grandfathers who bled for you Euros, Cheers!

  7. #24449
    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    Politicians such as politicians from Green party are using this for political advantage to win more vote from particular society society. Where are they when the Femisist ambushed the FKKs filming the FKK visitors shaming the visitors by put the picture in the news. Where are they ? Keep in mind FKK is legal in Germany.
    Did you expect that a Green candidate would stalk a group of feminists and, as soon as these started a protest in front of a FKK, he would then tackle them to the ground and have them arrested? If you want that type of society, I'd suggest you to move to North Korea.

  8. #24448
    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    Everyone needs to respect the human right. But nowadays people, politicians are using this word for personal or political gains.

    Disabled people shall have the right to have sex with whoever agree to have sex with them. Disabled people like anyone else should have access to prostitute in the country where prositution is legal. But this has always been the case, is it not.

    Suggesting the right to have sex with prostitutes using the taxpayer's money, is abusing the privilege of human right.

    Politicians such as politicians from Green party are using this for political advantage to win more vote from particular society society. Where are they when the Femisist ambushed the FKKs filming the FKK visitors shaming the visitors by put the picture in the news. Where are they ? Keep in mind FKK is legal in Germany.

    Everything is now a human right, nowadays. Does someone cease to exist if they are denied access to prostitute.
    The German Green simply proposed some years ago that a prostitute visit should be claimed back as a medical expense for people with certain disabilities. Chill out!

  9. #24447
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?

    You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.

    There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).

    The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/w...amsterdam.html

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19...n-sex-workers/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-tourism-reset.
    Oh you don't know that Germany, Sweden, The Netherlands, Finland and Norway are different countries? I'm so sorry for you!

  10. #24446
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.
    Everyone needs to respect the human right. But nowadays people, politicians are using this word for personal or political gains.

    Disabled people shall have the right to have sex with whoever agree to have sex with them. Disabled people like anyone else should have access to prostitute in the country where prositution is legal. But this has always been the case, is it not.

    Suggesting the right to have sex with prostitutes using the taxpayer's money, is abusing the privilege of human right.

    Politicians such as politicians from Green party are using this for political advantage to win more vote from particular society society. Where are they when the Femisist ambushed the FKKs filming the FKK visitors shaming the visitors by put the picture in the news. Where are they ? Keep in mind FKK is legal in Germany.

    Everything is now a human right, nowadays. Does someone cease to exist if they are denied access to prostitute.

  11. #24445
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.
    Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?

    You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.

    There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).

    The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/w...amsterdam.html

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19...n-sex-workers/

    The famously permissive Dutch city is cracking down on prostitution, relocating sex workers, and discriminating against those employed in the industry.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-tourism-reset

    In Amsterdam this is just the first step towards the Swedish model. The socialists got their votes from horny voters and 'progressives' in the past during the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's, but now the "me-too" and radical feminists are in control and dictate the agenda, and not just in the Green parties, but also in the CDU, SPD, FDP and VVD.

    Look at all the Labour Party mayors of Amsterdam, and look at who is the current mayor of Amsterdam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_of_Amsterdam#Early_20 th_century.

    Why do you think YingYang has been closed in Roermond? Or LR in Kaarst? Hint: radical feminist female mayors!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rianne_Donders-de_Leest

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaarst#Politics.

    Here is another example: in the French speaking part of Belgium, the P.S. (Parti Socialiste) has been in power for decades, yet P6 is very limited and sparse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(Belgium)#Walloon_Parliament.

    No big RLD or sex club with a good international reputation can be found in the Walloon region. Why is Belgium's biggest RLD located in the Dutch-Flemish speaking part of Belgium? Could it be because culturally speaking, the Flemish are much closer to the Dutch, and the Walloons much closer to the French? Why is GT in Brüggen full of French and Belgiums and even Luxemburgers?

    Please save us your socialist propaganda, and stick to being the dumb uninformed American with his J&J jabs!

  12. #24444
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    I fully agree, but even IF Germans will vote differently, it will take many years to rebuild much of the nation and get Germany back to the economic foundation that FKK clubs are built upon.

    Here (in German) are some videos from NDR German State TV highlighting the complete FUCK UP that Germany made of the Covid1984 situation. It's not just government bureaucracy, but also a total lack of customer service and local authorities that could not organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.

    Local nonsense: https://youtu.be/L_z-YW5Io7g.

    More local madness: https://youtu.be/ZOeGCVXAaHE.

    Hamburger business owner going bankrupt, getting no financial assistance: https://youtu.be/V24C5mHPpuk.

    Unable to get vaccinated + guy told on 17th Jan that he should have quarantined 3 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tpI9BHEA0.

    Unable to get an appointment for vaccination + chaotic Covid rules: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxccdNYLNU.

    Police detectives working from home (taking criminal investigation dossiers home! But not allowed to print out anything at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HRol45GUBI.

    The list goes on and on and on. You really couldn't make this shit up, even if you tried. LOL!

    And yet people think that Germany is the country of the Autobahn, high tech, and where everything is super-organised!

    Expect this chaos to continue, and heaven forbid, if the Green Party wins in September, this will mean the end of Germany as we know it. They already are talking about "Klima-Lockdowns" in Germany: shutdowns for environmental reasons! This is NOT a joke, as the German Constitutional Court in Karlshuhe has ruled that:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-tough-enough

    It's a far swim across the Atlantic back to the USA for American FKK Lovers (fully vaccinated, no doubt, hahaha) who will suddenly find return flights cancelled and FKK clubs closed again because Germany locked down another time, this time to 'save the planet. ' The European radical left has tasted blood and lockdowns in combination with Covid-Ecological scaremongering are effective tools to implement their neo-Marxist world views through the backdoor.

    https://www.die-gdi.de/en/the-curren...limate-action/
    The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.

  13. #24443
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuber19  [View Original Post]
    So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.
    I want to be wrong in my prediction, but I predict Merkel won't let Germany open. Read this: https://news.yahoo.com/health-minist...095926068.html.

  14. #24442
    Quote Originally Posted by NoTaWorry  [View Original Post]
    Anyone as antsy as I am and who are curious about Austria clubs instead as they appear to be opening soon? Have been to a club in Graz about 5 years ago. It was a decent time.
    You might find what you're looking for in the Austrian forums.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2562434

  15. #24441
    Anyone as antsy as I am and who are curious about Austria clubs instead as they appear to be opening soon? Have been to a club in Graz about 5 years ago. It was a decent time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuber19  [View Original Post]
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-co...091525328.html

    ((The coronavirus infection rate in Germany has fallen below 50 per 100,000 people for the first time since October, data showed on Wednesday, and the health minister said the country can have a summer of peace from the virus if it keeps pushing it down.)).

    ((Health Minister Jens Spahn told NTV television: One goal is clear: as many vaccinations as possible, as few infections as possible, until the end of June, then it will be a really good summer)).

    ((After a slow start compared to Britain and the United States, Germany's vaccination rollout is picking up speed. About 40% of the population of around 83 million people have received at least one dose and about 14% are fully vaccinated.)).

    So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.

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