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  1. #13726
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Yes you are right, girls can do ok by scamming, but, I like to believe, not as well as the honest girls who are in long rooms for most of the time with regular easy customers.
    "Easy" is relative and depends on the WG. Some WGs may find the mental aspect of the job to me more difficult than the physical. In other words, 15 minutes CIM for 100 is easier than 60 minutes of chatting on the couch for 100 EUR. The latter requires much more interaction with the customer. The former allows her more time to smoke and chat in Romanian with her friends and pretend she is not in a job that she hates. Drugs, which many WGs use, is often used to numb mental stress, not physical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    The German forums are very harsh with detailed reports on girls who are no good so the info gets around.
    Agree that German forums are more useful. But the only people who RTFF are the ones that plan to spend a significant amount of time in the clubs in the near future. If it's some married German man from Munich who has 4 hours free at the end of his business trip and he knows he won't be coming back to FRA any time soon, he won't invest time to RTFF. Trust me, I don't do long rooms, so when bored, I always strike up conversations with other customers. At Sharks, maybe a third of the clientele are casual mongers, who can count on one hand how many times they've been to Sharks. Also I find that I have to physically be in the club and speaking to regulars to put names to faces. Description on forum might be: "Romanian name, dark hair, 165 cm, thin, started working at Sharks two weeks ago, Service grenade!" I can't identify a WG based on such a description! I'd have to already know 75% of the LU to figure out through deduction.

  2. #13725
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info. I might see her later on this month, if not for her I wouldn't go to Palace hopefully her service is still good.
    Better hurry up then. 9 hours and 14 minutes left!

  3. #13724
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    She is currently working at Palace.

    HB.
    I didn't see Milana. Srb at Palace on Saturday 22 April, when was messe.

  4. #13723

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    She is currently working at Palace.

    HB.
    Thanks for the info. I might see her later on this month, if not for her I wouldn't go to Palace hopefully her service is still good.

  5. #13722
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Yes, does she still work there?
    She is currently working at Palace.

    HB.

  6. #13721

    Yup

    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    Mileva? Should that have read Milana?

    HB.
    Yes, does she still work there?

  7. #13720
    McAdonis. Wow, you remember my posts better than I do LOL. My comment wasn't about Betty, who I like very much, but more a general comment about the tiresome, fantasy busting discussion with girls who don't provide all services in half an hour. (before someone says I am unrealistic I add that a half hour room is merely an entree to longer rooms if the girl is good

    Yes you are right, girls can do ok by scamming, but, I like to believe, not as well as the honest girls who are in long rooms for most of the time with regular easy customers. In addition, sharky behavior damages their personality over time.The German forums are very harsh with detailed reports on girls who are no good so the info gets around.

  8. #13719
    Mileva? Should that have read Milana?

    HB.

  9. #13718
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    Yup the lineup at Sharks is far better than World. Compared to when I last went there in January 2016 service levels have gone down. But it is not as bad as palace. I was with 2 girls yesterday and they both kissed without preconditions.

    Too bad gorgeous Serbian Mileva was not there.
    Sorry but service level is also linked on how you behave and how much you are ready to pay. Visited World yesterday (see my report) great improvement in LU a lot of new girls, the club is strongly regaining momentum.

  10. #13717

    Sharks vs world

    Yup the lineup at Sharks is far better than World. Compared to when I last went there in January 2016 service levels have gone down. But it is not as bad as palace. I was with 2 girls yesterday and they both kissed without preconditions.

    Too bad gorgeous Serbian Mileva was not there.

  11. #13716
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    I hate it so much that tomorrow I am passing on a planned visit to Sharks (like in the last couple of days I'll go somewhere where there is no cheating,) Such girls don't even begin to understand how to be a successful business. I normally budget to spend 500 a day but such girls are losing me to the business.
    500 is only a lot if you are spending all of that on one girl and repeating her often, which sounds like you are because you've mentioned the FKK wife dilemma before.

    Even then, some WGs might prefer to make money while spending the minimum amount of time with customers. A 10 minute room is 50 EUR. A 27 minute CIM miraculously becomes "35 minute" by her calculations and 150 EUR. This approach means less time pretending to like her job, pretending to like her customer.

    Scammers can't be "successful business" at the Hessen big5? Maybe if the boards were more like Yelp or TripAdvisor. But the boards aren't like this. Case in point, I have no idea who cheated you at Sharks. And I vaguely only remember that you like an ex-Finca WG. And I read more religiously than 99.9% of the attendees at Sharks. Sharing information is more common in smaller clubs, where the percentages of regular clientele is higher.

  12. #13715
    Quote Originally Posted by Craiova  [View Original Post]
    Otherwise, there arn't enough volume of clientele, otherwise cost of living is high to be worth it for those don't have a clientele base.
    Exactly, a 10-15 e price hike for the half won't be enough. The number of girls and / or clubs needs to be reduced also.

    But germany is competing with international destinations like thailand and brazil. Switzerland is only competing with itself...

  13. #13714
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    I could totally get behind 60/100 pricing if DFK was included as standard service. Of course, I suppose there's no easy solution to the girls who keep their lips tightly shut and insist that somehow qualifies as DFK.
    Not going to happen. The standard pricing has to do with nearby competition pricing, and what alternatives there are. Artemisia is isolated as far as competition.

    Artemis is 60. Austria is 60+. It's all pretty much Romies everywhere, and it don't change the service level much at all. If anything, there are upsells in GT Vienna due to clientele. It's tourist location.

    There will always be clients that tries to pay more to get ahead, even if you raise that increment. It's the nature of the business.

    If anybody has been around, should know, it's the clientele. Palace was affected first, and it's a heavy tourist location, and then when a club's popularity grows, draw the large volume of tourists.

    I can also say, I've been to Vive in Spain, and really there is no correlation of service to pricing. The cheaper club Estark with girl lower offering, some 50 by the way, there is more luck in services. It's probably due to clientele.

    The reason why Switz is such a draw is 120 per half, it's the threshold fair amount girls will abide by an agreement for services. Otherwise, there arn't enough volume of clientele, otherwise cost of living is high to be worth it for those don't have a clientele base.

    How popular is Hamburg given all the alternatives in De? You can pay extra 20 per DFK, bbbj for extra 20.

  14. #13713
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    But on my last two trips palace and maybe more oase went ahead in numbers of top girls.
    Thanks. Scratching Oceans off my list even with 15 euro entry.

  15. #13712
    I could totally get behind 60/100 pricing if DFK was included as standard service. Of course, I suppose there's no easy solution to the girls who keep their lips tightly shut and insist that somehow qualifies as DFK.

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