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  1. #11895
    Quote Originally Posted by Amspascha  [View Original Post]
    Anyway, I think nowadays is hardly to find this level of girls (although most Ro cuties), level of facilities and the 100 euros each hour with GFE service. In US, UK, France and almost ANY PLACE in the world. The market in east Europe have been ruined and in Asia the mongering price have risen dramatically these years especially in China, Thailand even in Vietnam. In South Korea, Japan or Macau as my "internet investigation" you can't find the best German FKK level girls for less than 800-1000 euros for "short time session" plus the language and information barriers.

    So. I really appreciated German people to create this "FKK neverland" for us to enjoy the high "price-quality level" product made in Germany..
    In 20 years or 30 or whatever, it is not impossible to imagine that these Eastern European girls could be in pretty high demand. It's happening already, but could be much much more. Reality is, Asia is getting richer. Japan has been for a while, and Korea and Taiwan and smaller ones like Singapore and HK, but now China has hundreds of thousands if not more of dollar millionaires, and that number is going up. India will also rise to some extent. And knowledge and awareness of these European hookers will spread and travel will be easier. Most of these Asians have a thing for white girls, especially blond girls. So, what's happening at Oase and other FRK clubs today, I can easily see that being multiplied ten times and worse as more of the Asian mangers travel and have money. And the supply of white girls willing to fuck all and sundry is not going up at the same rate as the growth of Asian mangers with money and aware and willing to travel. Right now, they are coming to German FKK and other places, but over time, it is quite possible other business models evolve and facilitate where the monger and girl meets to fuck, except the $rate for the girls can only go up.

  2. #11894
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitumen  [View Original Post]
    But the story was she was in the club and she never kept your appointment with you meaning you were waiting for her to show and still left the club. So bad of her.
    When a client tells a girl "maybe later", this client is not accused. But when a girl tells a client "maybe later" because she's busy with a client, this girl is accused. I think it's unfair.

  3. #11893
    Quote Originally Posted by Amspascha  [View Original Post]
    Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.
    Heard similar story about a Shark girl who got a watch. Honestly 250 eu for an hour isn't even that bad. It's average price if you want all the extras, anal and CIM.

    The outrageous ones are the guys spending 2-10 k eu for just a couple of hours. Some even buy the girls cars and flats. Those are the ones ruining the market. I've heard some big spender stories at GT, LR, and Sharks. They are all either Asian or Arab guys.

    On the flip side if the guy is really good looking or nice they get to go on vacation with some of the girls for free. Too bad I'm not hot enough LOL!

  4. #11892

    Market destroyers

    Quote Originally Posted by AznHotBoy  [View Original Post]
    That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.

    You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.
    The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby. Truely recommend these guys to go to casinos.

    Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.

    Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.

  5. #11891
    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    You can negotiate the rate and don't need to buy any bottles. What is a right rate? I think 1000 a night or even for 24 hrs is a high but good number, and would be surprised if you can't negotiate at that rate or below with most girls, unless your girl is a very busy girl that makes more than a grand night in, night out. You should try it for a day like Monday / Tuesday, as they are less busy and more likely to agree to a better rate.

    Companionship and spiritual fulfillment? No comment.
    Thank you for your accurate date-price strategy. Unfortunately this girl may still not be a "very busy girl" but surely is one of the highlight in Sharks even considered her face, body or age. Monday Tuesday maybe a better option for negotiation but as I didin't live in Germany, I will choose Wednesday or even weekend to come to ensure she will be present when I come.

    When we were in session we have some word or we can say many words in common because of some same hobby and value which I found difficult in FKKS. I appreciate this lucky and thought she is just a perfect GF or lover (at lease for now) for me but can not come true in my real life.

    For her I am glad to start my first try, will hit Sharks again in January next year. So, first, hope she will be present, second, hope she will not "change" for the worse.

  6. #11890
    Quote Originally Posted by AznHotBoy  [View Original Post]
    That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.

    You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.
    I would have no idea what to talk about with girls that charge for social time. Long "presales" happen when the conversation is flowing, which typically means you both enjoy the conversation (it helps if it a quiet day). Sharks is no difference really. I haven't been that much this year (for obvious service related reasons), but still had at least 3 visits with sessions that were preceded by a few hours of social time (well, one of them was an hour and a half). Strangely enough these are the kind of girls that don't need any upsell to keep you in the room for a longer time (and in most cases not just 60 minutes either).

    My most extreme example of this was in Mainhattan of all places, where I spent an evening in which I had a total of 45 minutes alone time and about 8 hours of social time (and another hour and a half in the room) with two girls I didn't even know (although I had seen both of them elsewhere before). That really was getting your money's worth for 150 E and a lot of fun as well.

    All this just to say that circumstances and mood play a role and it can happen anywhere. it's just not something you can always control, because the average session sure doesn't start like this.

  7. #11889
    Does anyone know what's the blonde russian girl name? I spent a couple hours with her last Saturday and totally forgot her name. She told me that she's new in Sharks.

  8. #11888
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?
    Likely her. She's fake dirty stright blond. Attractive puppy dog eyes. Sits close to the center of the bar close to the pond thingy behind her when saw last. More of pretty GND looks than hot.

  9. #11887
    Quote Originally Posted by Amspascha  [View Original Post]
    So these guys were paid drinks and "normal zimmer rate" to let the girl to stay with them? As in Sharks, I had seen several times that "Janine?" Brunette with nice tits sit with a customer (not same) on the sofa near the locker area until club closed and also had seen 2 times Evita stay long time also "lovely talking" with Asian customers.
    That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.

    You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.

  10. #11886

    Comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by AznHotBoy  [View Original Post]
    There is no rule for long term booking. If you actually find the right girl she will stay with you for little money. I've had girls at LR and GT where I spent a couple hours with them outside the rooms for free and only pay for room time. Do keep in mind that the girls are there to make money and not looking for love or spiritual fulfillment. It really depends on the girl, my friend and I had offers to hang out for free outside of the club with a couple girls but those are very very rare.

    At Sharks the girls are more materialistic than at LR or GT, so you'd probably have to spend the money on zimmer time if they know this is what you like. Buying them drinks isn't going to cover the time they spent with you because they are there to make money not to get drunk.

    Although if you are a regular at Sharks a few girls might drink with you for free or an hour or so but those are few in between. Now if you are really handsome and nice they might like you and then none of this really matters.

    My personal experience at Sharks for LT booking has been about the same rate as everyone else. 100 eu for 1 HR. I think at best I pay 1000 for maybe 12-14 hours at Sharks.

    As for inviting the girl to your hotel, not a lot of girls will do that, but from experience it'll be another 500 eu minimum plus how long you booked them during the day. Some girls might take you up on the offer if you are a big fish and they want to keep you as a customer. Shark's management is planning to open up a hotel near by so then there might be actual official pricing coming soon. I don't think it'll be priced at a lower rate than it is now.

    It's all about the money, but you might get lucky!
    Before I was thought, if customer buy expensive drink it means a commitment that the girl will stay longer time with him as I have seen many times in different FKKS, I thought If you want sex, pay zimmer time, if you want "talk and flirt and stay with" pay drinks. So these guys were paid drinks and "normal zimmer rate" to let the girl to stay with them? As in Sharks, I had seen several times that "Janine?" Brunette with nice tits sit with a customer (not same) on the sofa near the locker area until club closed and also had seen 2 times Evita stay long time also "lovely talking" with Asian customers.

    I also think the best option may be directly, quoted Zimmer rate with the girl and just spend long time with her in the club. If finally got the feeling, than considered if extend to hotel as a "ST--Temporary girlfriend".

    As the rooms in Sharks were truly nice and beat every medium-high level hotel in Darmstadt,also you can eat, drink and enjoy in the club which can not do in hotel. But if you invite her to hotel when is very late, the "price-quality" would be lower because the girl will be tired, also it doesn't make sense pay a lot just for "your lover sleep with you". When you fell asleep you just snore comfortably but didn't feel "Love" haha.

    Anyway, I think nowadays is hardly to find this level of girls (although most Ro cuties), level of facilities and the 100 euros each hour with GFE service. In US, UK, France and almost ANY PLACE in the world. The market in east Europe have been ruined and in Asia the mongering price have risen dramatically these years especially in China, Thailand even in Vietnam. In South Korea, Japan or Macau as my "internet investigation" you can't find the best German FKK level girls for less than 800-1000 euros for "short time session" plus the language and information barriers.

    So. I really appreciated German people to create this "FKK neverland" for us to enjoy the high "price-quality level" product made in Germany.

    I hope I will be lucky when I met her again. And many thanks for your suggestions.

  11. #11885
    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus8  [View Original Post]
    Steffis has one of the prettiest face at Sharks too bad she doesn't rly kisses (I'm a face guy). I kinda knew it but still sessioned with her bc of all the flirting outside, LOL.
    So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?

  12. #11884
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]

    Steffi seems really sweet, and fun gal. Unfortunately, no real kisses offered. So didn't try.

    Sandy was great as well, red hair, lots of colorful tattoos, petite type.

    Esther, I'm really attracted to her. She has one of the prettiest face IMO. Really cute, and fun personality. Did she play the Jacuzzi game with yall too?(if you know what I mean) Sly girl. LOL. Avg session.
    Steffis has one of the prettiest face at Sharks too bad she doesn't rly kisses (I'm a face guy). I kinda knew it but still sessioned with her bc of all the flirting outside, LOL.

    I wanted to try Sandy on Friday but she was busy and didn't show up on Sat. Normally not my spec but cute and based on my interaction with her should provide good service.

    Esther totally ignored me on this trip guess she rmb me. I'm not overly attracted to her otherwise wud have tried her a long time ago.

  13. #11883
    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    Mia and Moira have been talked general positively for a long time around here. I didn't even know who they were. Recently I talked to them both and found out who they are, and now I know I had seen both of them many many times earlier, but just never found either to be my optical spec. Whether they are good in the sack and have skills or not, does not even matter time as I am not even attracted to them to try; that doesn't mean I will come here and claim they are over-hyped girls. Just happens they are not MY spec but could be attractive to several others (as they clearly seem to be).
    Well stated. My top 3 girls in Sharks ever were fabulous in the room but not likely to be spec of everyone, in fact none if them were even my spec, so I took a long time to try all 3.

    Pamela (gone), Agnes, and Moira.

    Amazes me that the negative posters will be unwilling to be impressed by one girl, but are afraid to state which girls are so much better and why.

    I am suspecting that Mandy must be No. 1 in demand girl right now, even I never met her. I would love to hear which girls are so much better, if there are any, since I have been a bit bored at Sharks recently.

  14. #11882

    Newbie visit

    Several months ago I posted a few questions (under another user name--long story) about my then upcoming visit to an FKK club for the first time. It happened to be Sharks. Ortos was kind enough to respond, and I've been remiss to report on my visit until now.

    I went on a Wednesday in mid October, and of course was immediately both stunned and thrilled. I sat at the bar and luckily met a veteran from the USA Who took me under his wing. I went to rooms with three girls, as follows:

    1. Karin (SP? Attractive, B-C cup, who said it was only her second week at an FKK club. I thought I made it clear that I only wanted a 30 minute session, but when we got to the room I repeated so as to confirm, and she said that she would only do a one hour session. I said OK, put on my robe and started for the door. She had a quick change of heart. Standard activities for what I've come to know in this forum, albeit halfhearted effort by her. Of course, not having partaken of anyone that young or beautiful in seemingly forever, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. However, I wouldn't repeat based on her attitude.

    I went to sit on one of the couches next, and had a very interesting conversation with some nice guys from Deutschland. During our conversation I was approached by a marginally attractive girl who repeatedly asked me to take her to a room. I tried everything I knew to shed her, finally saying that I'd think about it later. I learned my first lesson. Don't give an inch. She sat at the bar for the next two hours and glared at me, almost daring me to go to a room with someone else so she could exhibit her displeasure. A nice girl whose name I didn't get saw what was happening and walked up to say that I shouldn't worry about it. She didn't hit on me at all. I think it was pretty obvious I was somewhat out of my element.

    2. Ada--the thing that is quirky about this girl is that while you're seated at the bar she comes up behind you and sticks her finger in your ear or blows very forcefully into it. It's pretty annoying, but when I wheeled around in my seat her looks immediately overcame any annoyance. 5'5" Romanian, blonde, very fit, tanned, be-see cup. I was just immediately struck. We went to a room and she didn't protest my stated desire for a 30 minute session at all. In retrospect, she must have had a pretty good idea that her work was going to be completed very quickly, which it was, but the sight of her sitting on top of me was just mind boggling. I would have repeated, but ended the night with another beautiful blonde who I've seen mentioned on here, Roxanna.

    3. Roxanna--very similar description to Ada--similar enough in looks to my eyes that they could be sisters. Maybe my memory is foggy however. Again, just requested a 30 minute session, which she didn't like, but readily agreed to. She was easily the most talented of the three. I felt like that I had a glimpse of what you guys refer to as good service. Again, not surprisingly, she made quick work of me after giving me a short but good back massage.

    This is obviously my first report, and I apologize for leaving out any necessary details. I want to thank Ortos for his nice advice a few months ago. I always particularly enjoy his, Bitumen's and Hessen Bub's posts, not to slight any of the rest of you. You are all (almost) quite entertaining and informative. I hope to make it back in the next few months. What an experience!

    Finito 14.

  15. #11881

    Two day visit to Sharks

    Met or seen: Enya, Evita, Patricia (tall, black hair), Mandy, Sandy, Sandra, Mei Ling, Milana, Dina, Nicoletta, Lorena, Megan, Tatiana, Esther, Bianca, Lavinia, Diana, Melody, Janine, Madelina, Moira, Angela, Chris, Nastia, Roxanna, Paloma, Teressa, Steffi.

    Not seen or met: Yeliz, Rebecca (blond, nice tits), Ariana (at Mainhattan), Chrissi, Cindy.

    Steffi seems really sweet, and fun gal. Unfortunately, no real kisses offered. So didn't try.

    Sandra did not meet the expectations I had in mind. Great BBBJ though. Best looking De girl seen at Sharks thus far.

    Mandy did however, great service. Not a model or anything, GND. No hype, and Sandy was great as well, red hair, lots of colorful tattoos, petite type. Both De girls recommended.

    Teresa, cute face, tall like Megan with slight resemblance, but thicker body. Seems inexperienced. Funny part was she grabbed my head when kissing so I don't move my head forward. Hehe. Afraid of some intense kissin from mua? LOL.

    Would have liked to try Enya and Bianca, but didn't get the right vibe with them. Wuz my intuition right?

    Angela, long brunette with red band around her waste, one of the pretty faced that I have not seen before. A bit mellow, but easygoing. Good session. Would recommend, but don't expect anything intense or passionate.

    Patricia, skinny tall brunette with beaky nose. Not really my type or hint of eroticism. Nice girl though, good personality. GFE, and can provided a great time in and outside the room, fun to talk with. Recommended if into GFE, cuddly types.

    Esther, I'm really attracted to her. She has one of the prettiest face IMO. Really cute, and fun personality. Did she play the Jacuzzi game with yall too?(if you know what I mean) Sly girl. LOL. Avg session.

    Tatiana, ex-Oase Sonia. Petite, pretty face. Her personality was better than expected as the session went onwards. I guess that's the draw for some folks. Service was ok.

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