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  1. #11204
    Re: Tipping. I'm an American and despite the crazy difference is cost for what I can get in Germany vs at home, I don't tip. I discuss up front with the girl what my expectations are, we discuss price, and from there its game on. At the end of the session if we went long, or I opted for an extra not previously negotiated (CIM / COB / etc), I pay the market rate for the overage and move on. If those cases do happen, it usually means it was a very enjoyable session and I will let the girl know I will plan on repeating. The girls I find the best providers are the ones who strive to provide good service for their customers and build a loyal customer base.

    Of course I'm not a regular, so I'll never be a super regular customer for any particular girl (s), but even in just the 2 years I've been visiting FKKs I've built up a rapport with a number of girls, mostly at Sharks, who know I'm a nice honest guy who will treat them nicely and they reciprocate in kind. Of course I also try out new girls every trip, so it's wash rinse repeat.

    Anyway. Spent the day yesterday at Sharks. Will hold off on my TR until after I leave since my sessions were a mix of really good and somewhat not so good and I don't want to [CodeWord140] any girls off that I might see over the next week if they read this board. I've already been called out a few times by girls for writing TRs about them. Usually on my next trip to DE, but once on the same trip. Luckily in that case it was a good review and it led to an even better follow up session, but a couple of them were scornful for writing a 'so-so' report, or even writing about them at all!

  2. #11203
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    Just to mention it: Dina does have a tattoo.

    HB.
    And a piercing, but I meant elegant, not truck driver style.

  3. #11202
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Also not my type of woman behavior in room, but no problem of upselling or unfriendly behavior with me, and she is pretty and elegant, without tattoo, nor piercing everywhere, it s always a pleasure to see a pretty, natural woman, without silicon, like Dina or Steffi or Agnes.
    Just to mention it: Dina does have a tattoo.

    HB.

  4. #11201

    No regrets

    Quote Originally Posted by FanOfViagra  [View Original Post]
    I don't understand the customers who give tips. Price is the price. Girls do not deserve this. They offer free hours for us? Never. They are only there for the money and not for us.

    Service can be nice, girl nice, but their aim is our money and to try to manipulate some of us. Like Sirioja said: "a world of illusion". But the truth is different.

    One day, one of my friend helped one of this girl with tips, now he regrets. This poor shit girl laugh now.

    The advice is: be careful.
    Girls feel and understand what kind of guy we are, so I don't need to tip, I may not have the face or dick to be asked. Many girls prefer a 600/800 € per month guy, rather than a tip and goodbye. Even at upselling Oase, girls never asked me tip. Those who tried to fuck me about time, Elisabet. Hu, Tatiana. Ru now Ilona at GT, a Polish at Sharks will never see me again, even 2 were high level. Even at Wellcum and Andiamo. At where girls are used to tiping Italians, for 6 girls I was their first french guy and none asked me for tip. On the other hand, girls have hugging pandas fallen from the plane, who pay more than the rate because they are afraid girls don't want to go with them.

    I wouldn't say girls don't deserve because I know how this bad job is so difficult for mind and health. How many guys would be able to do it? I m honest enough to know I wouldn't be able. Also, when you are lucky to be born in Western Europe, or UK, or USA, with parents who protected you, you can't judge these girls coming from far deep, very poor Moldovan part of Romania, or Bulgaria. So, they need money they can't make at home, they don't do this job for pleasure to be fucked all day long.

    When I can, I give advice to my girls, sometimes they change in bad way for their behavior with me and I m disappointed, but I never regret my advice or my money, it s my way for thanking them for pleasure they give me, and I m always happy for them when they retire, wishing them a better life far from brothels.

    Of course, this business is only an illusion, but sometimes you can find a girl who will say: I can't believe you are able to come like you are, who keep on kissing you after sex, saying: this time is for free, and after room, coming and saying: I prefer to stay with you, until club close. Illusion can sometimes be magic. Often it doesn't last for long, but then, new girls to discover.

  5. #11200
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    ...she is pretty and elegant, without tattoo, nor piercing everywhere, it s always a pleasure to see a pretty, natural woman, without silicon, like Dina...
    Completely agree seor.

    ¡ Si, Rioja! 🍷.

    😇.

  6. #11199

    AO risky guy

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I don't agree with bullshit about Dina business, because I unfortunately know the french faker who wrote about her and what we wants from girls...
    What he wants from girls.

    Sharks would be boring without Dina walking, swinging her ass, but if Jo likes her, then I can only also like her. See you Jo.

  7. #11198
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    There was no sex as there were no men and top girls like Alina who have no problems making money were begging me to take her to the room. They didn't even get laid once which was very surprising.

    Paid for entry, makeup, smokes, drinks, and made no money. It was a tough days for most of them, I am too surprised with this as World for me is a top place and in spite of this I will still visit it. In summers it definitely is the best.

    I guess just one of those bad days.
    World is often very empty at night after midnight, except on Friday and Saturday, or in some weekdays, since a while, about summer 2014 . But when You have girls on night team, they are free, fresh in mind because happy to stop boring, sitting waiting, so very good for me. World I like with fresh in mind girls happy to get business. Better than tired busy girls.

  8. #11197
    Quote Originally Posted by FanOfViagra  [View Original Post]
    I don't understand the customers who give tips. Price is the price. Girls do not deserve this. They offer free hours for us? Never. They are only there for the money and not for us.

    Service can be nice, girl nice, but their aim is our money and to try to manipulate some of us. Like Sirioja said: "a world of illusion". But the truth is different.

    One day, one of my friend helped one of this girl with tips, now he regrets. This poor shit girl laugh now.

    The advice is: be careful.
    Tipping for standard service makes no sense. Its like buying condoms at the pharmacy and after paying for them giving the sales person a tip for selling them to you. In this hobby tipping is for service rendered over and beyond what was agreed to.

  9. #11196
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyHarry  [View Original Post]
    I completely agree! She never asked for tips and has always been fair to me as far as pricing is concerned.

    I've been a couple times with Dina and she's a nice girl. She is also a little too professional/fake (panting, moaning) in the room IMO, which is unfortunately why the fantasy lost some of it's shine and I stopped seeing her. However, other men might be turned on by her, which is probably the reason of her popularity.

    Nevertheless it seems to me that there is some kind of orchestrated campaign (jealousy?) here to discredit her.
    Also not my type of woman behavior in room, but no problem of upselling or unfriendly behavior with me, and she is pretty and elegant, without tattoo, nor piercing everywhere, it s always a pleasure to see a pretty, natural woman, without silicon, like Dina or Steffi or Agnes. I prefer rather than Gothic, tattooed and pierced everywhere, Sena style, even she seems friendly, but I m not attracted by Harley fans or truck drivers.

  10. #11195
    Quote Originally Posted by AznHotBoy  [View Original Post]
    FYI Dina does not ask for tips, all pricing is normal including extras, and she doesn't select her clients based on tips, but she has the right to be selective on clients (and she is). Stop smearing her image. Her clients tip her because they chose to. She can be very nice at times and also very fierce at another (like most women). All I'm saying is her pricing is fair, but she can be a pain in the ass at times.
    I completely agree! She never asked for tips and has always been fair to me as far as pricing is concerned.

    I've been a couple times with Dina and she's a nice girl. She is also a little too professional/fake (panting, moaning) in the room IMO, which is unfortunately why the fantasy lost some of it's shine and I stopped seeing her. However, other men might be turned on by her, which is probably the reason of her popularity.

    Nevertheless it seems to me that there is some kind of orchestrated campaign (jealousy?) here to discredit her.

  11. #11194

    Don't agree

    There was no sex as there were no men and top girls like Alina who have no problems making money were begging me to take her to the room. They didn't even get laid once which was very surprising.

    Paid for entry, makeup, smokes, drinks, and made no money. It was a tough days for most of them, I am too surprised with this as World for me is a top place and in spite of this I will still visit it. In summers it definitely is the best.

    I guess just one of those bad days.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    I don't understand your comment I don t visit a FKK for the atmosphere, and I don t believe to be oblige to wait long time for a room is a positive atmosphere knowing that mostly the room will be full of. Many things from the previous session. When you say "any sex happening" how can you know what action is done in the rooms. For me World is the best club and I don't want to convince anyone to visit it, so it will be better for me. For me Shark is a dark place with some good girls but also a lot of mongers.

  12. #11193
    As Sirioja correctly says, tipping is not necessary to ensure favourites are available. If a girl measures out her performance and attitude in response to 10 euro notes then she is not the level of service provider for me.

    Of course I do occasionally give extra, but only when the girl has become a real regular.

    Indiscriminate tipping leads to greedy girls.

    Of course as HB said tipping by foreigners can subsidise the local regulars who go at quiet times.

  13. #11192
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnEllee  [View Original Post]
    I always think being decent European gentlemen, we should tip girls especially whom provide good service. I myself consider it as a way to show respect and appreciation. However, there should be some guidelines for tipping, otherwise it would have a bad effect on whole business.

    These days, Asians, Americans or some international tourists usually tip girls too much, because the price here is too much lower compare to their home countries. They sometimes spoiled girls too much and might hoist girl expectations which could never be realized.

    I did have some my own rules to tip girls:

    Most of my favs enjoy multiple-hour-session with me, only exception is the Hungarian girl, whom thought she could make more.

    I might be wrong. But I always try to be nice to girls. I respect them, I enjoyed time with them. They told me their life stories, true or fake; I shared with them my life experience in Far East, America and Eastern Europe; we enjoyed our best time together. This is my life, with girls in heaven!
    As a Western European, for me, respect has nothing to do with tiping. When you are with a woman in normal life, you tip her? I think she would ask me if I treat her like a prostitute?

    Of course, WGs do this job to make fast money, I don't say easy money, some even take risks with services, or on videos to risk to finish as pornstar on internet, but respect is more for me the way to speak to her, to look at her, to touch her, to listen if she agree or not, much more respectful than tiping.

    About the Hungarian girl, you have problem about money with, there is club rate, 50/30 mn. I went with Dina when I discovered Sharks on February 2014 , I stayed with her for 1 hour to take my time with her, I gave her 100 , she didn't ask me more, if I don't agree with bullshit about her business, because I unfortunately know the french faker and what we wants from girls, if I heard about one of her "friend" , never heard anything about her from other girls, on the other hand I will not say she was a sensual, skillful woman with me, even she was not unfriendly, but we don't look for same way for sex. So, we never repeated, no problem, as I never repeated with Roxana even before silicon, nor Cosmina who only did worth for me for her BBBJ, when I weekly repeated with Sandra for her behavior and sexual level, Ariana for her freshness, Megan for 1 year, Jana. Hu as a real GF, and I followed Kate at Globe.

    You are the client, you get the money, so you can decide how much you want to spend, and also choose girls or clubs. Since a while, for me Sharks is not so good than before, so I found other clubs with more attractive girls for me.

    Be free to decide or accept to be fucked.

  14. #11191

    Tips.

    I don't understand the customers who give tips. Price is the price. Girls do not deserve this. They offer free hours for us? Never. They are only there for the money and not for us.

    Service can be nice, girl nice, but their aim is our money and to try to manipulate some of us. Like Sirioja said: "a world of illusion". But the truth is different.

    One day, one of my friend helped one of this girl with tips, now he regrets. This poor shit girl laugh now.

    The advice is: be careful.

  15. #11190
    Tipping ruins it for the rest when girls start expecting 200 for half hour.

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