FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[PayForIt]

We all look for different things in a club visit. I know Optimist looks for club atmosphere as much as girls and I see how he enjoys World more than Sharks. I am a pure optificker so I will go to any club anywhere no matter how smoky and atrocious the club is, if the girls are there.

I've never been to Sakura but I can bet $1 million that it is not as good as Sharks. Really an odd choice in club selection for a guy who is so worried he is making the wrong decision. Stuttgart is also quite far from Velbert or Darmstadt for that matter.

edit - I just skimmed through some Sakura reviews and I read things like disappointed in the lineup. Girls much older than those at Oase and Sharks. I'm confused.

I completely understand why you are confused as I totally accept that my choices here are very different. Sakura does get better feedback than Paradise. See http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...741&viewfull=1#post1856741.

Then if you go back only a couple of weeks:

Some guys are crazy about Shark I was there many times but never found the LU better than Oase, World, I was Friday evening in Sakura and for me the LU was quite good with a lot of
sweet young and fresh women, was also there 2 weeks back and was unhappy about the LU, so it depends good luck and thanks to report.

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I don't want to make the wrong decisions but I have several considerations when making my choices of which clubs to visit. The number of very attractive girls is one but not the only one. I'm not 20 anymore. I cannot fuck 8 women in a day. I am most definitely not this good:

I have been to this club the past 2 weekends, and for this week, I had many sessions with Maya. After tonight, it's been 22 times in 6 nights, and able to cum finish 21 times.
I believe I went 34 rounds in 6 nights at Mainhattan, and was able to finish 31 times, so I'd rate the service here as top notch!

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So for me I have two types of FKK experience. A day when I try to session with maybe 4 or 5 women and finish 2 or 3 times. But mainly I prefer a day (or actually a night) when I try 2 or 3 girls and have long sessions with at least two of them. As a result, I don't need 30 stunning women. I just want a couple who are really attractive to me, give great service and have a good personality in the room to have some fun and really enjoy the time as well as the sex. So I have rarely been to a "bad" club. I nearly always find at least one girl I really like. When I did LR I had a two hour session, came out, ate, relaxed, then went in search of round two. Lots of nice girls but I ended up having another 2 hours with the same girl I picked first as she was most to my tastes. I didn't leave LR disappointed and I would return though the club is small.

I also like to do something on these trips other than go to FKK clubs (though admittedly that is the main attraction and I would not visit any one country so much without these clubs). So I decided I wanted to visit Stuttgart as I've never been and I want to see the Porsche factory. So far as I know, I only have two choices and from reading a lot of the two forums it sounded like Paradise is Palace 2 (no big deal for me. I quite liked Palace) but the recent reports on LU have been particularly worrying. The facilities are also important to me in the club. Not just the atmosphere as Optimist likes. I love that Artemis has a gym and two kinos. I use them all when I visit. I agree with Frotzy that the atmosphere there is probably the best though I had a great time on the one trip I had to World, and the outdoors are great there even if the LU was poor. Still found a flower to pick. And from USA which was a shock.

So the mix of seeing a new city, club facilities indoor and out, and recent reports was why I selected Sakura.

As to the distances, I know they are far apart, but as I wanted to see Stuttgart the travel is unavoidable and I didn't want 3 days there as there are few options. Hence why I put Sharks in the mix on day 2 - if Oceans and Sakura are both poor (and I recognise that I'm taking risks with going to both. But I'll never know unless I find out for myself!) then I have one "banker" in safe Sharks where there are always some excellent girls and I like the club too. Hope that takes care of any confusion. Thanks to Jnpr30 for your kind words.

[Frozty]

First, I have to say PFI always gives balanced views. It seems like we have different tastes because he likes Spain and Artemis, and I didn't like Spanish clubs all that much and Artemis also ranks low for me. But he always manages to keep his cool and stays very respectful. Quite admirable.

Secondly, I dint know where MS comes from. If you are - like me - from a sex starved place like US, any club would seem like manna from heaven. Ok, I just ragged on Artemis, but that's only because I know I can go to Sharks and Oase. But if there were no other clubs, or if Artemis was the only club I could go to, I would be clinging to it like bad odor to a guy who has not showered in a week, LOL.

Artemis and Sharks are my two favored clubs right now. In my opinion, for pricing, optics and service, Sharks wins. Also I like the garden in the Summer. I prefer Artemis for variety of girls, atmosphere and the club layout and facilities. If you like a party atmosphere with 100 naked girls crammed in a pretty small space, it can't be beaten. It's also better if you like silicon and ink.

On balance, I tend to prefer Sharks at the moment. Right now I only visit a club for a couple of days every two months or so, from the UK.

[Partheno Lover]

Helli 8/8/9: 8,3.

Scarlette 9/7/8: 8.

Ilka 8/8/8: 8.

Evita 9/7/7: 7,6.

Karin 7/9/7: 7,6.

Dina 8/8/7: 7,6.

Mia 6/8/9: 7,6.

Irra 8/7/7: 7,3..

Scarlette plays with gentleman in front couch with blue rob. She had very bubbly, submissive personality. Too bad she is gone but she never approached customer but in room very flexible and mold-able personality.

She wasted little time in room but overall fun too be with.

[Optimist]

Jnpr30 is right. My post shouldn't put anyone off, it was only my personal view, as PFI says (circulation, yes it is easy to do, but not as interactive as in some clubs).

The Weekend. I don't think I'm doing it wrong. I spoke to maybe 20 girls over two visits and none of them were right for me. No big deal as I already have dozens in other clubs who suit me. It was the one club I've been to where speaking a little romanian did not help.

Great discussion on various clubs.

As auslander says, World hasn't quite got a A team for the customers wanting optics. They only need three or four more 10s on bodies.

World is for the relaxed times, combining with mad parto nights. Sharks needs a long visit, probably 8 hours to give time to appreciate it's ways

Cheers

[Member #4581]

First, I have to say PFI always gives balanced views. It seems like we have different tastes because he likes Spain and Artemis, and I didn't like Spanish clubs all that much and Artemis also ranks low for me. But he always manages to keep his cool and stays very respectful. Quite admirable.

Secondly, I dint know where MS comes from. If you are - like me - from a sex starved place like US, any club would seem like manna from heaven. Ok, I just ragged on Artemis, but that's only because I know I can go to Sharks and Oase. But if there were no other clubs, or if Artemis was the only club I could go to, I would be clinging to it like bad odor to a guy who has not showered in a week, LOL.

[Banana Boi]

We all look for different things in a club visit. I know Optimist looks for club atmosphere as much as girls and I see how he enjoys World more than Sharks. I am a pure optificker so I will go to any club anywhere no matter how smoky and atrocious the club is, if the girls are there.

The experienced Sirioja who is something of an expert on Sharks now calls ACA his new FKK Home.

If I have this right, GT was Siri's first home, then he found ACA, then he moved on to Sharks, and according to something you must have read recently has returned to ACA.

Wednesday 20th April: Dusseldorf. Will try Oceans for first time and if no good on to LR.

Thursday 21st April: Have not decided out of Acapulco (Velbert) or a risk free trip to Sharks.

Friday 22nd April: Sakura Stuttgart. Got to try it on recent reviews.

I've never been to Sakura but I can bet $1 million that it is not as good as Sharks. Really an odd choice in club selection for a guy who is so worried he is making the wrong decision. Stuttgart is also quite far from Velbert or Darmstadt for that matter.

edit - I just skimmed through some Sakura reviews and I read things like disappointed in the lineup. Girls much older than those at Oase and Sharks. I'm confused.

[PayForIt]

I am planning a trip to a german FKK and I really just can't decide. I went to artemis and liked it a good bit (my only FKK). I think the layout is beautiful. The women were very enjoyable though I would have preferred more younger ones (and nice ones). I was hoping that sharks would be more of a place where you'd find such younger ones. Is there any truth to that at sharks? So which FKK will you solicit now?

Perfectly good question. On Sharks Optimist reports:

porting on a personal experience.

Why don't I like it?

1. The gloomy dim, which means it's hard to see the girls

2. The optics is nothing special.

3. The layout inhibits easy circulation with the girls.

I know I run the risk of heresy with what I wrote, but it's just my subjective feelings.For me I would put it as my least favourite of the more commonly visited club

.Taking in turn his enumerate points: (1) It's nowhere near as gloomy as the dimly lit bar at Oase which is awful to see any faces. Even from standing upstairs at Sharks it's possible to look below and see who is fairly pretty. (2) I doubt many posters here would agree with this view. The optics in Sharks are very impressive. The club is very large inside, has a great outdoor garden and since mid 2014 it has been mainly rated as having the best LU (summer 2014 belonged to Oase from reading the forums). (3) I really didn't get this criticism. The bar is oval shaped and it is possible to do circuits around it as well as peeling off in several other directions to sit on or near sofas with the girls. I find it the BEST club (of the 8 I've been to) to circulate with the girls. But Optimist has given you his own subjective views and that's what is great about all of this. That each guy has different tastes. Jnpr30 made some very good points when he responded:

I would not be put off by one negative view (or swayed by one positive view either). We all can't and won't like the same thing, or else there would be 5 human beings having sex all the time while the rest of us have to watch.

There are plenty of posters who love Sharks. And more importantly, the number of actual physical visitors to the club is also high. It continues to be one of the best clubs and most visited clubs around.

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He is right. The good thing about Germany is that there are so many of these clubs that it is great just trying to get to several of them as a visitor.

You say you really liked Artemis and its layout. I completely agree and think it is the best club I've been to for facilities. I also share Jnpr30's assessment of Berlin. I've been to Hamburg, Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf, Dortmund, Wolfsburg, Cologne and Hannover. None for me is even close to Berlin as a city to visit. I'm soon to visit Stuttgart too and hope it is attractive. I know you don't come on ISG to get reviews of cities, but even if its something to do in the mornings it is nice to be in an interesting place as well as having access to a good FKK Club. It is a nuisance that the only club in Berlin is Artemis and something of a surprise I suppose.

Younger girls. Whilst you liked Artemis you wondered about a club with younger girls. There can be little argument that you do get a real mix at Artemis (which overall for me is still the best club). You get more ladies over 30 at Artemis than in most of the big clubs IMHO. I'm not bothered by that. I like the diversity. I also think quite often that a stunning 30 year old is more likely to give great service than a spinner 19 year old with a great body but who hasn't yet picked up enough skills. Of course there are converse arguments that past 30 the girls have had too much sex and are tired, whereas a 19 year old might lack experience but makes up for it with enthusiasm and stamina. Greatest proportion of young girls in the clubs I've been to was at Oase. For layout it comes rank bottom of my list. But LU is always quite strong. Mainhattan LU has been poor in the past but it's thread seems to show recent improvement and there are some comments that World's LU is recovering too. Optimist himself reported that he went from World to Sharks and back to World last week and was pleased with his decision to go back. That was a surprise. Outdoors at World is really lovely.

Consider NRW too. I've only been to Living Room and Samya. I will be going to Oceans and Acapulco soon. The experienced Sirioja who is something of an expert on Sharks now calls ACA his new FKK Home. I'm sure he would not say that without good cause and many pretty options.

So bottom line is this: as a tourist, from abroad, like me, you want to get it right. You don't want to waste precious time / days in a bad club because you cannot just write it off and go elsewhere next week. I get it. But two quick final points on that: if you are a tourist at FKKs I rather doubt that any club would be considered "bad" because there is nearly always one or two girls who you will session with, and as Breadman says, that can often be enough. Secondly, just have fun finding out. I'm one of those tourists who asks lots of regulars about clubs I haven't tried and although they often tell me to just go try them, like you, I want some guidance. The truth is that your own experience will differ from those of others. When I did a report last year comparing several clubs I put Artemis first and got slaughtered! The previous year I'd ranked Sharks first on my own experiences and those who loved Oase gave me a tough time! One principle I'd recommend is going to an area where there are options. In Frankfurt I first went to Mainhattan and as the LU was not to my liking that night I jumped a cab and did Palace. It gets hammered in the forums but I had a great night there and liked the club. I don't mind that girls want to upsell and / or are sharky. I can deal with it and most guys can. The important thing is that being in Frankfurt (and I agree with Jnpr30 that it is a boring city) gives lots of options. If you are in Sharks and it is poor you can at least get to other clubs. Same in Dusseldorf / Cologne. My advice would be to try Sharks if you've never been. I don't think many people dislike it. There have only rarely been poor options on pretty slim young girls there in the last few years on my visits and probably more attractive girls there than any other club I've been to even if Artemis is still my favorite club due to layout. But it's drawback is that if the LU isn't good (I've never had that problem) you have no options. Give Sharks a try. If no good when you get there, get to Oase if you can or one of the more central Frankfurt clubs. I know it's costly in cabs so either hire a car and don't drink. Or bite the bullet on taxis as I do so you can have a beer or two and just accept the cabs as an expense of mongering for a tourist. Have fun and report back on your own thoughts of wherever you do decide to go.

[Der Auslander]

We all have our personal preferences. It seems to me that most posts in this FKK Clubs Forum are currently about Sharks. The majority of these posts seem to be favorable. Seems to me that Sharks is currently the happening club with arguably the best line up of good looking girls. This will change and another club will take over the crown. Might be FKK Oase (who previously had most posts) or perhaps FKK World. But as far as FKK World goes, they badly need a hooker A-Team. For the most part, the current crop of ladies in FKK World are particularly ordinary in appearance.

[Guy93]

The problem is I didn't like the club but I think there were attractive girls.

I have never been at Sharks outdoor area though.

Maybe I should give Sharks another chance in summer.

Also I did not found LR lineup that good before Christmas when I first time visited there, but then at summer it was just maybe the best lineup I have seen.

So I would say the lineup and the time matters a lot when visiting clubs.

[Member #4581]

I would not be put off by one negative view (or swayed by one positive view either). We all can't and won't like the same thing, or else there would be 5 human beings having sex all the time while the rest of us have to watch.

There are plenty of posters who love Sharks. And more importantly, the number of actual physical visitors to the club is also high. It continues to be one of the best clubs and most visited clubs around. No I am not a paid shill, don't even have discount tickets, LOL.

I have been to Artemis a few times. It ranks, for me, distinctly well below Sharks and Oase, the other clubs I usually visit. I did not like the lineup, service, aggressive nature of the girls, even the slightly inflated prices, or the food for that matter. If it was not the only club in Berlin I would not visit, but I go to Berlin on business and there is not much to do in the nights. On the plus side, it is relatively easy to get to from the Berlin city center, and I love Berlin a lot more than I like dreary Darmstadt or sleepy Freidrichsdorf, or even Frankfurt which is actually somewhat of a boring city in my personal view.

If you read through hundreds of pages here, for even a few months worth of postings, you will see that Sharks has a pretty favorable rating from its visitors. Most people have a good experience; and especially from far away visitors like me the complaint is not "why did I go there and waste my money" but "I wish I could go there more often and wish I had more time to fuck more girls". I can say categorically that on every single visit I make there, I am not hitting even 1/2 to 3/4 of my budget because I am running out of stamina to fuck.

So good luck and have fun, wherever you go.

[The Weekend]

I am planning a trip to a german FKK and I really just can't decide. I went to artemis and liked it a good bit (my only FKK). I think the layout is beautiful. The women were very enjoyable though I would have preferred more younger ones (and nice ones). I was hoping that sharks would be more of a place where you'd find such younger ones. Is there any truth to that at sharks? So which FKK will you solicit now?

Artemis and Sharks are not comparable, the club layout and atmosphere is totally different, the girls type and behavior are also different. If you like Artemis, stick to Artemis. Sharks is boring compared to Artemis, unless you know the girls. The avg age is lower at Sharks, but adding Silvana to the equation, the avg is pretty much similar, LOL.

[The Weekend]

I arrived around 4. 00 on Monday, convinced that there must have been something amiss with me last Friday.

I arrived in a positive mood, but quickly really felt that for me Sharks is a big downer. I'm not trying to start a discussion, just reporting on a personal experience.

Why don't I like it?

1. The gloomy dim, which means it's hard to see the girls

2. The optics is nothing special.

3. The layout inhibits easy circulation with the girls.

As my mood started to slip I decided to leave at 6. 15 without a session.

I know I run the risk of heresy with what I wrote, but it's just my subjective feelings.For me I would put it as my least favourite of the more commonly visited club

One small interesting episode. Two years ago a girl at Artemis tried to get me to do a double, and I had fun then in stringing her along with ten minutes banter before refusing. The same girl was doing the rounds at Sharks and her partner started to try to snare me, but the ex Artemis girl pulled her away saying in Romanian "I know him, I don't want to". Amazing memory on her part.

You are doing it wrong man!

Leaving too early, you can sit at the bar or nearby sofa watching.

Do you know Romanian, since you understood the conversation between the girls.

So you didn't talk to any girls during your visit? You need to chill, mingle and small talk with the girls.

Which club do you prefer? Oase? Oase is even darker in the lounge.

[MaxSquatter]

I am planning a trip to a german FKK and I really just can't decide. I went to artemis and liked it a good bit (my only FKK). I think the layout is beautiful. The women were very enjoyable though I would have preferred more younger ones (and nice ones). I was hoping that sharks would be more of a place where you'd find such younger ones. Is there any truth to that at sharks? So which FKK will you solicit now?

Max squatter. Yep.

BB. Of course you are right. It just didn't work for me. Other members have made some very good connections with workers. I heard of a man from US who flies in just to monopolise a girl for several days in a row.
Another man I was speaking with at length has a couple of special favourites. There were a couple of ex World girls there (including Paloma, previously Karina) who I knew but I didn't want to go to Sharks to repeat World experiences

[Sebastiane]

Some people have mentioned on here that a number of the top girls at GT have been fired. Does anyone know if any of them have moved to Sharks? If so could you tell me their names and descriptions?

[Optimist]

Max squatter. Yep.

BB. Of course you are right. It just didn't work for me. Other members have made some very good connections with workers. I heard of a man from US who flies in just to monopolise a girl for several days in a row.
Another man I was speaking with at length has a couple of special favourites. There were a couple of ex World girls there (including Paloma, previously Karina) who I knew but I didn't want to go to Sharks to repeat World experiences