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Originally Posted by TankTank123
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Temperature ceiling was imposed on public buildings and facilities as taxpayers are paying the bill. Private buildings were left alone as they are subject to market forces and could thus make their own calculations on how they would cope with the price increase. Anyway, it was reported that Germany had achieved 100% stocks in their storage facilities and would have no supply problems this winter.
Both Sharks and World were warm last week and this week. (Even though it was snowing outside World with its garden totally white). But one girl in World told me that she was going back to Romania next week, earlier than planned, as the heating bill of her apartment has almost doubled. Another girl in Sharks told me that she was not staying over Christmas and New Year Day as she used to in past years, also because she cannot afford her heating bill. So, the energy supply problem might have impact on the number of girls present.
Many girls sleep at Sharks.
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Originally Posted by Adindas
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This is public office that should get priority of energy supply let alone accommodation, hotels, etc. What about party venues, night clubs, FKKs.
Temperature ceiling was imposed on public buildings and facilities as taxpayers are paying the bill. Private buildings were left alone as they are subject to market forces and could thus make their own calculations on how they would cope with the price increase. Anyway, it was reported that Germany had achieved 100% stocks in their storage facilities and would have no supply problems this winter.
Both Sharks and World were warm last week and this week. (Even though it was snowing outside World with its garden totally white). But one girl in World told me that she was going back to Romania next week, earlier than planned, as the heating bill of her apartment has almost doubled. Another girl in Sharks told me that she was not staying over Christmas and New Year Day as she used to in past years, also because she cannot afford her heating bill. So, the energy supply problem might have impact on the number of girls present.
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Gas
There is plenty of gas in Europe, prices are decreasing.
Business as usual.
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The problem with visiting EU countries this winter is gas supply disruption from Russia. I remember I read news in Germany for instance the authority will allow the public office to set the indoor temperature of 19 Degrees.
This is public office that should get priority of energy supply let alone accommodation, hotels, etc. What about party venues, night clubs, FKKs.
These venues will need a huge amount of Electricity and Gas. It is ranging from gas to heat to water, (hot shower, tea / coffee machines), sauna, steam-room, spaces (rooms) heating with such huge amount of spaces. In FKK, RTC especially, as the people are half naked. People could not comfortably stand with room temperature of around 19 degrees.
What is your opinion? Is the gas, energy supply still a concern in Europe during winter this time ?
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Originally Posted by BackpackBrian
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Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
A woman who enters an FKK club as a guest / customer doesn't need to register.
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Originally Posted by BackpackBrian
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Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.
I got many really good and very honest Romanian girls, even on this year, even their quality fall in Hessen or at Globe, but other places where can still find good ones. 2022 is my German year with 5 German girls with 3 at Sharks.
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Originally Posted by Saturn11
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I saw a man take his wife into Oase earlier in the year so you could try there. Worth ringing before to double check though.
I've seen that at Oase too a few years ago. Also I saw a guy with his girlfriend / friend in Mainhatten once. I was chatting with her while he went to the room.
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Originally Posted by Ballsout69
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Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?
I saw a man take his wife into Oase earlier in the year so you could try there. Worth ringing before to double check though.
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Originally Posted by Ballsout69
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Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?
No. The only non-WGs there are the ones who work as staff members. They have a guy at the door who won't let her in.
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Originally Posted by BackpackBrian
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Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.
I like Romanian girls but when German, Polish, Czech etc. girls were in abundance was much better.
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Originally Posted by Ballsout69
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Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?
Call FKK World north Frankfurt, if Sharks don t accept anymore.
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Why prices have gone up and quality has gone down!
Originally Posted by Hyperion2007
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I was in Sharks today and I asked the receptionist: a definitive no, a woman can't enter as a customer.
Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.
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Originally Posted by Ballsout69
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Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?
I was in Sharks today and I asked the receptionist: a definitive no, a woman can't enter as a customer.
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Couples in Sharks
I have seen couples in Sharks in the past.
Call the reception, phone number is on the website.
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Originally Posted by Saturn11
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The Sharks website has an FAQ section which unless google translate is playing up suggests it isn't possible, below is what it says.
I would like to come to FKK Sharks with my wife or girlfriend and rejuvenate our love life. Is that possible?
No, unfortunately not. The ladies in Germany's largest naturist club are exclusively self-employed, commercial entrepreneurs who. Independent of FKK Sharks. Offer their services there.
Yes, they have clearly stated in website that wife or girlfriend is not welcome. The girls working in the club has to be independent. I have personally never seen a couple in Sharks.
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