FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Shark16]

In my opinion, many girls try to charge extra for REAL deep long DFK. You can often negotiate it down though.

True. I have the same experience. That's why I go with those who don't start that with that upsell. And they can be just as hot and perform just as excellent.

At HappyTour,

Yes, the girls often give favours / discounts for longer sessions. There is a long tradition for it. Except for prime time certain Friday / Saturday nights perhaps I do not see that those guys "occupy all the hot girls" as Turgid claims. That's just a theoretical mind game IMO. Life at a FKK club is full of opportunities. Even on most Friday / Saturday nights.

[Sirioja]

In my opinion, many girls try to charge extra for REAL deep long DFK. You can often negotiate it down though.

Girls who ask extra for FK, won t give You long sensual FK. Those who will give You are those who don t speak about money and who are happy You and what You are choose them. Real GFE girls don t speak about money. FK are not Romanian baby kiss.

[David1266]

That's right. If you show weakness, some girls will try to upcharge for anything, like:

- BLS
- DFK.
- DATY.
- Massage.
- COB.
- COT.

- FIP.
- FIA.
- Rimming.

NONE of the above did qualify for an extra back in the day. And the decent providers STILL do not quote extras for these "services". Of course, the three bottom services are not standard services and you risk a "no" that must be respected (or the use of condom in the case of FIP/FIA). The first six a large majority of girls will consider included in the base price of 100E/30 or 150E/60. Most of the time without saying. But you may want to check 1- 2 of them with the girl if this is crucial to you (typically a DFK fundamentalist need to check this service with the girl before the session).

That is from a Hessen perspective of course. Those who visit Hamburg / Bavira will know that many of these "services" have been extra for more than 20 years. They have a totally different tradition.

In my opinion, many girls try to charge extra for REAL deep long DFK. You can often negotiate it down though.

[David1266]

Does anyone know if Maria and Kitty are back from vacation?

[Sirioja]

A thought just occurred to me. What if there are wealthy guys who deliberately pay the hottest girls more so as to spoil them and make them demand more generally so that those wealthy guys can have exclusive access to said hot girls.

Yes, many guys, Germans, locals, tourists, foreigners, French, pay 100/30 and even 200/60 with no real FK with average girls. Since February 2023 , I didn't see any worthing 200/60 at Sharks, I paid many rooms 200 but for close to 1 h30 and with a rare and fresh GFE German on May and June.

[HappyTour]

Some will pay 200- 300E/60 and THINK they did an exclusive deal. Others will pay 150E/60 (often with the same girls and same performance) and be happy with that.
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Wealthy guys do spend more money but doesn't mean they have to pay 300/ hour or even 200/ hour rate.

In the past year, I chatted a few rich customers whom I met in Sharks and got to know something about their spending habits.

Case 1: a Canadian attorney (he claimed). I recommended girl M to him. He then spent whole time from 4 pm to midnight with the girl only. Later on he disclosed that he gave girl-M 1000 euros PLUS the entrance fee (125 e). Average 140/ hour.

Case 2: a local IT professional, three hours with girl Ki and paid her 500 euros plus extra. Three hours with girl-Ca 500 total, as he told me.

Case 3: a London banker, booked girl K whole Monday with 1000 plus entrance.

Case 4: a Singapore VC, booked girl Ce from 2 pm to 10 pm with 1000 euros.

For privacy I don't need to disclose above girls names but they are hot.

[The Cane]

ISome will pay 200- 300E/60 and THINK they did an exclusive deal.

I will gladly pay 300 E /60, not because I think I'm getting something exclusive, but because I got good value for that money. That would be 1 hour of sex with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. Plus a massage thrown in for free if I can get it (most girls will oblige).

[Shark16]

A thought just occurred to me. What if there are wealthy guys who deliberately pay the hottest girls more so as to spoil them and make them demand more generally so that those wealthy guys can have exclusive access to said hot girls.

Interesting thought. I will counter that by asking:

1. Are there enough wealthy guys?
2. Are there really so few hot girls?

Debate on!

Some will pay 200- 300E/60 and THINK they did an exclusive deal. Others will pay 150E/60 (often with the same girls and same performance) and be happy with that.

(We can debate this endlessly and still not agree. Will someone soon say we are beating a dead horse?).

[Turgid]

It's quite simple. Don't pay 200 for 60. Pay 150. If everybody sticked to this simple rule, like I do, even with the hottest girls, you would all benefit.

If you pay 200 for 60 you are fooled.

A thought just occurred to me. What if there are wealthy guys who deliberately pay the hottest girls more so as to spoil them and make them demand more generally so that those wealthy guys can have exclusive access to said hot girls.

[Sirioja]

It's quite simple. Don't pay 200 for 60. Pay 150. If everybody sticked to this simple rule, like I do, even with the hottest girls, you would all benefit.

If you pay 200 for 60 you are fooled.

Most expensive are not on the highest level, but do you get Maxima, or Kity, or Katalea, or Sofi. De, for 150/60 . I never repeated with Sofi, only because of 200/60 , when 3 others never worth 200/60 . I don't like to pay more expensive than I estimate.

[PinballMachine]

It's quite simple. Don't pay 200 for 60. Pay 150. If everybody sticked to this simple rule, like I do, even with the hottest girls, you would all benefit.

If you pay 200 for 60 you are fooled.

[Sirioja]

My very first experience of upselling was at Palace which was notorious for upselling long before Sharks ever existed. Back then there was no upselling at Oase. Then years after came Sharks with 50/30 and 100/60 constant with BBBJ. After 2017 a few girls tried upselling for BBBJ and I avoided them without any lessening of my experience at that club up until my last visit in 2020. I never ever paid extra for DATY which I understand some girls are now trying to upsell.

More than CIM, or anal but how many are able for more than asian size deep inside for more than 30 seconds, when porn actresses are prepared not to feel, now common extra asked is for what they sell as GFE, like in kindergarden level. For many now, 100/30 and 200/60 is for basic BBBJ, DATY, fucking mostly small pussies, like if they never got a real size inside and few baby kiss at best and 50 extra for GFE for babies, when some real GFE are for 150/60 , not asking extra and not rushing You if they like with You, I got 150/80 on August when she has best GFE skill for me at Sharks since 2021 , out of German white snow on May / June. Small Simona with quite average face even asking 300/60 for little Romanian GFE and some schoolgirls fans pay such rate. The shortest and lowest levels are now the most expensive at Sharks, when can still find some of best for 150/60 or even longer if they like with You, when I refuse to pay more expensive for lower quality, reason why Sharks is lower value for money than Oase now and Globe is down, not worthing 150/30 when You know a bit FKK land.

[The Cane]

At times you can read reports about guys paying for DATY. That's pretty lame.

I have never paid extra for things like DATY, kissing, or a massage (I like massages and typically can get one in as part of the base deal). On the other hand, I have routinely paid the upcharge for CIM and anal sex. Then when the upcharging started for BBBJs I paid that too. As a tourist monger I didn't have a lot of room to negotiate. And I admit that one time I paid extra (like maybe an extra 50) to eat out a Ruskie girl's ass! It was in Zurich, and I just had to get me some of that hot "blondinka's" tight little forbidden "pope-ka"! She wouldn't do anal, but I could be her little American butt munch if I wanted. So if I couldn't cornhole her, then my other option was my face buried between her attractive Slav girl ass cheeks, with my tongue tickling her butt hole! For a small fee. It may have been lame, but what was an "anal connoisseur" to do pray tell (shrugs)? I had to have me some of that pretty, blonde, Slav girl anus! If even just a taste. Hahaha!

[Shark16]

I never ever paid extra for DATY which I understand some girls are now trying to upsell.

I have never been upsold for DATY in Hessen, but I got a "no" once. It happened to me years ago. She did me a favour (herpes outbreak). She probably should not have worked that day, and I quickly ended the session.

At times you can read reports about guys paying for DATY. That's pretty lame.

(In Austria it is not uncommon that girls will try to upsell a DATY/kissing/GF package. At Wellcum/GT Linz for 20- 30E. At GT Vienna/Mystic for 50- 150E extra! Just say no to these proposals.).

(GT Vienna is probably the worst club I have ever visited with regard to upsell. It's an upsell hell!! Here is a true story: I am receiving a BBBJ from a girl. I ask for 69. She puts herself in position. I am locked in under her killer ass. I am totally turned on. I was about to lick her privates when she says: DATY is 50 extra. And I am locked in there under her delicous pussy lips doing everything I can to avoid her warm lips. But I am so excited. And I can't move. Then she says: "Come in my mouth. It's only 100E extra.". LOL!!!)

[Turgid]

My very first experience of upselling was at Palace which was notorious for upselling long before Sharks ever existed. Back then there was no upselling at Oase. Then years after came Sharks with 50/30 and 100/60 constant with BBBJ. After 2017 a few girls tried upselling for BBBJ and I avoided them without any lessening of my experience at that club up until my last visit in 2020. I never ever paid extra for DATY which I understand some girls are now trying to upsell.