FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[BlueMoon22]

The last time I was in Germany was from January to March, 2020 and 50/30 and 100/60 was the norm. I paid no more than that and I went with many girls including the hottest ones.

50/30 with BBBJ?

[Turgid]

Sorry but much of this is just factually incorrect. The 100/30 started with the change to German law of 2017. Basically paying for BBBJ became illegal. And so girls would say fine to fully covered 50/30. But would do illegal BBBJ for 100/30. This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.

Absolutely nothing to do with COVID. At all.

The last time I was in Germany was from January to March, 2020 and 50/30 and 100/60 was the norm. I paid no more than that and I went with many girls including the hottest ones.

[The Cane]

Sorry but much of this is just factually incorrect. The 100/30 started with the change to German law of 2017. Basically paying for BBBJ became illegal. And so girls would say fine to fully covered 50/30. But would do illegal BBBJ for 100/30. This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.

Absolutely nothing to do with COVID. At all.

There were plenty of girls who would charge extra for things like kissing, DATY, rimming (and whatever else you can imagine) well before the 2017 law. You negotiated for what you wanted YMMV. The thing about post 2017 law change is that a 50 euros upcharge for a BBBJ became damn near universal! That's the unique thing around BJs. Pretty much every FKK tute in Germany now tacks on 50 euros extra for providing a BBBJ. And then depending on the girl, they went on continuing to do things they were doing pre-2017, like up charging for kissing, etc. Charging extra for a BBBJ may be only an FKK thing. I don't know. I mean I don't recall reading a lot of reports of RLD tutes doing that. And what about pricing for independent escorts? I wonder if there was a pricing impact from the 2017 law on that part of the business too? Don't know as I don't like going the escort route, but it's interesting to think about.

[Steve 9696]

Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.

Sorry but much of this is just factually incorrect. The 100/30 started with the change to German law of 2017. Basically paying for BBBJ became illegal. And so girls would say fine to fully covered 50/30. But would do illegal BBBJ for 100/30. This started right after the 2017 law. And then it spread like a disease. If I can charge extra for BBBJ why not extra for kissing. And DATY. All started in 2017 w change of the law.

Absolutely nothing to do with COVID. At all.

[Sirioja]

Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.

You know so few: 100/30 and 150/60 became after covid lockdown when Germans and locals paid this. Nevertheless, in 2021 with only very few tourists and Asians, could still find some high level girls for still 100/60 and I had many and with my best 2021 Sharks girl and I also gave her 150/80 on August 2023 for a great room with great sex, not a small pussy but a woman. But why to pay more expensive for lower quality where most Sharks girls fell, when now higher quality elsewhere in Germany.

[Escape Artist]

Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.

Sounds like mental gymnastics for the guys who gave up the 200 e per hour ask. If a theory takes that many conditions to connect, it's probably been over complicated. Gymnastics.

I do my 1 hour rooms but appreciate the 30 minute try outs too. But many guys don't even want more than a 25 minute quick pop. The 30 minute room has always been the cornerstone of the FKK style. It still is. It has a plurality if not a majority of room times. And who's to say there's a wrong way to fuck hookers? Calling them stingy for seeing that it's a bad deal to pay 150 e when all they need or even want is to get a nut out with a brothel hooker. So many just decided to only pay for what they want, not because they're stingy, but because they have no desire to spend 1 hour with a hooker.

It's like telling someone to pay $150 for 2 hotel nights when you just need one night. Who cares if the second night is a better deal when you don't need or want it.

The 100/30 and 150/ HR point was the final acceptable compromise. The 200 e per hour guys, those are the ones who pushed it to the final breaking point.

[Sirioja]

I don't think any of the clubs I went in they would do anything for 50. I forget which ones said but 2 of the clubs said the minimum for girls. I think Artemis said maybe 70? Maybe 90. Then OASE said min was 50.

Oase desk tell basic is for 50/30 , but not reality.

[BlueMoon22]

I have never paid more than 50 for 30 or 100 for 60 at FKKs and don't think I want to spend more. I can find women just as hot in Latin America or Asia.

I don't think any of the clubs I went in they would do anything for 50. I forget which ones said but 2 of the clubs said the minimum for girls. I think Artemis said maybe 70? Maybe 90. Then OASE said min was 50.

[HappyTour]

Before covid, the price schema 50/30 or 100/60 lasted almost 20 years.

At 2019, some girls such as Melissa, Denise (now Kitty), Anna-Mari, Anastasia (Kathleen) etc, started to raise prices to 150/60 and usually refused 30 min sessions only for one hour or longer sessions.

Stingy customers didn't want to pay 150 for one pop.

So around 2021, some average girls smartly offered "cheaper" packages for these guys 100 for one cum but 30 min should finish. So these customers accepted 100/30 in order to save 50 for each pop.

Since then we entered 100/30 era.

However these cheap customers actually ruined prices system. Because their actions potentially gave girls expectations to further hike prices. Since 30 min session charge 100 euro, why not 200 for one hour.

Then soon top girls who originally charged 150/60 now charge 200/60.

All other average girls followed the trend since mid-2023 .

Now some girls start to offer 150/30 with "GFE". Customers who don't like 200/60 but they accept 150/30 for fast cum because they could "save" 50.

The vicious cycle has begun. 300/60 in the near future? Cheap Charlies makes it.

[Turgid]

Many guys ask about the girls prices here.

The truth:

Lots of the girls try to get 200 for 60 or even worse, 150 for 30 when they spot weakness.

I never pay more than 100 for 30 or 150 for 60 and that should be the case for everyone.

Don't be weak.

I have never paid more than 50 for 30 or 100 for 60 at FKKs and don't think I want to spend more. I can find women just as hot in Latin America or Asia.

[Sirioja]

Many guys ask about the girls prices here.

The truth:

Lots of the girls try to get 200 for 60 or even worse, 150 for 30 when they spot weakness.

I never pay more than 100 for 30 or 150 for 60 and that should be the case for everyone.

Don't be weak.

Problem now at Sharks is more expensive for lower quality, when fall for looks. Funny is highest levels are not the most expensive when I paid 150/80 on last August and she was so far higher level in bed and for fresh true GFE than Maxima for 200/60 . One with who I feel she likes with me, like with my Russian, or my squirting German escort who ask me so much when I will return, in NRW.

[BlueMoon22]

Thanks for the report!

Can you describe the looks of the duo girls?

Blondes? Brunettes? Length? Boob size?

Names?

Both dark hair. Ivana has fake tits, lots of tats, prob the cup and is taller and Vanessa is the prettier of the two and smaller natural boobs. Ivana a little darker complexion too. I'd guess Ivana at 5'8 and vanessa at 5'5.

[PinballMachine]

Ok so the night after Berlin / Artemis I arrive in Darmstadt and plan to go to Sharks even though I am tired and it's kind of late already. I grab some food and then dial up an uber. Or I thought I was going to anyways. In Berlin it worked but it kept acting like it would work in Darmstadt and then it would say they couldn't find a driver so I said F it and got in the car even though I didn't want to drive. I pull in to the place I've only read about before. The holy grail of FKKs that is sharks. I go in and pay my entry fee and get my robe and everything and walk in. I'm super impressed by the size of the club. Guy / girl ratio is pretty even I'the say and the girls aren't super aggressive but more so than Artemis they at least try and chat some if you lock eyes at all. Seems like it's a good balance. I brush off a couple different ones wanting to show me the club and tell them I'the just like just look some on my own and about my 3rd pass around I am walking and this duo and I cross paths and they are kind of in my way and we both fake side to side like trying to get out of each others way and they grab me and we chat a bit. They are both cute. One is hotter than the other but the less hot one has some nice fake tits and overall still cute and good body. They talk about going to a couch and chatting first or say should we just go right to a room. I'm like fuck it lets go to a room for an hour. They try and upsell some things and I say I just want sex and no condom BJ and CIM so we agree on the price and walk in and I adjust the lights and really like the room / bed. Mirrors on both sides / headboard / above. So we start taking off what little clothes they had on and fondling and kissing and they direct me to the bed where they start a great BBBJ with good technique and amazing visuals between them and the mirrors.

Thanks for the report!

Can you describe the looks of the duo girls?

Blondes? Brunettes? Length? Boob size?

Names?

[PinballMachine]

Many guys ask about the girls prices here.

The truth:

Lots of the girls try to get 200 for 60 or even worse, 150 for 30 when they spot weakness.

I never pay more than 100 for 30 or 150 for 60 and that should be the case for everyone.

Don't be weak.

[BlueMoon22]

Ok so the night after Berlin / Artemis I arrive in Darmstadt and plan to go to Sharks even though I am tired and it's kind of late already. I grab some food and then dial up an uber. Or I thought I was going to anyways. In Berlin it worked but it kept acting like it would work in Darmstadt and then it would say they couldn't find a driver so I said F it and got in the car even though I didn't want to drive. I pull in to the place I've only read about before. The holy grail of FKKs that is sharks. I go in and pay my entry fee and get my robe and everything and walk in. I'm super impressed by the size of the club. Guy / girl ratio is pretty even I'the say and the girls aren't super aggressive but more so than Artemis they at least try and chat some if you lock eyes at all. Seems like it's a good balance. I brush off a couple different ones wanting to show me the club and tell them I'the just like just look some on my own and about my 3rd pass around I am walking and this duo and I cross paths and they are kind of in my way and we both fake side to side like trying to get out of each others way and they grab me and we chat a bit. They are both cute. One is hotter than the other but the less hot one has some nice fake tits and overall still cute and good body. They talk about going to a couch and chatting first or say should we just go right to a room. I'm like fuck it lets go to a room for an hour. They try and upsell some things and I say I just want sex and no condom BJ and CIM so we agree on the price and walk in and I adjust the lights and really like the room / bed. Mirrors on both sides / headboard / above. So we start taking off what little clothes they had on and fondling and kissing and they direct me to the bed where they start a great BBBJ with good technique and amazing visuals between them and the mirrors. So we cover up and first one gets on cowgirl and rides awhile and then we switch it to doggie which is epic with mirrors everywhere. Now it's time to fuck the other so condom change and wipe down the dick. I have her get on top and ride and then we go to mish then doggie (the whole time the other is either kissing me, sucking my nipples straddling me or playing with herself right in front of me and it's all super hot). Off comes the condom and they take turns blowing me and the smaller one lays on my chest and I pull her ass / pussy right next to my face and start kissing it looking in the mirror and it's a great thing to see while getting sucked from the other girl who I can see in the mirror. They both are down there and playing with my balls while they suck me and I finally tell them I'm about to cum and they both take some in their mouths. Super fucking hot. It was a one pop night for me and it was late after a full day of travel so I didn't stick around much I just bounced but got one of their numbers as she wanted me to come back the next day. I was impressed with the layout of sharks. Chicks wise I didn't get to look a ton as I got scooped up by the duo pretty quick. Not a ton numbers wise but way easy to find a pretty hot girl to fuck in less than 5 min if you want. It was late on a weeknight I assume is why not just overwhelmed with the numbers and I've read beginning to middle of Jan. Is slower anyways. Still a great experience and a fun time with a duo.