FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Pistons]

On the international womans days I hear there is a revolution ongoing. The BDSM, poly and sex workers want to redefine it.

I am thinking more in the lines of girls such as this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sex-slave.html

[PayForIt]

As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.

1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.

I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.

Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.

I think you have to appreciate that for tourists (like me) it is difficult. We don't get to attend these clubs more than (for me) say x4 times or 5 max per year. We pay quite a lot to get to FKK land. Flights, airport parking, public transport or car hire, hotels etc before we paid a single entry fee. The build up to the wonderful FKK experience is always special. We are not used to being surrounded by 120 naked women! So keeping disciplined about negotiation is not that easy!

The trouble is, as has often been written, and as you are advocating, is that it only takes 3 or 4 guys to have a "I'll pay whatever she asks for" and it sends a big message, especially to the prettiest girls, that they can charge what they like. This was my 5th room with Vanilla and the first 5 minutes were awful as she announced, to my surprise, but only when the door was shut ("for the services you like baby it's now €300" I told her I need to put my towel back on and go back out before we touch so that at least I don't owe any money. She looked shocked. We then spent 5 minutes haggling and I was close to just ending it there. It is a total mood killer and as she said "talk so much about money is ugly". I told her I agreed. In the past for the same 1. 5 hours and services it was €200. This was obviously when it was 100/60 and she would agree one "free" extra if I guaranteed 1. 5 hours (150 and one 50 extra). In those days a girl on a guarantee of €200 for a session of 1. 5 hours was making decent money. I say "those days" - I'm talking January 2020 (when I also had one of my rooms with her). She said prices now were "post covid inflation". I burst out laughing.

On current pricing of 150/ hour, I considered to get to €200 for 1. 5 hours to be a good deal anyway and I know she likes the services I request. I was only really requesting the same "one free extra" but she hated coming down from €300 to €250.

In answer to the proposal Perfectionist suggests 100/45, I tend to find that this works much better if the girl knows she will get longer time. Obviously this only works if you know her and her services. But when you do, and they know it will be fun and not pressured, they'll often do deals. In my favourite two clubs in Spain the prices are 150/ hour (Estark 92 in Fuengirola) and 200/ hour in Scandalos (Malaga) (though many now try for 250). There are no 50 e extras. They either do them in the price or not. Most girls do most things but not all. In Estark with the girls I know I offer 250/2 hours. They all take it. In Scandalos I offer €350 two hours. Most (but not all) take it. Back to FKKs, I believe the girls would take €200 for 1. 5 hours if it was guaranteed before the start (with no extras).

The trouble is the difference in experience. In Spain I treat the clubs as a night out where at the end of a nice night with drinks and fun with the girls in the bar I will select one or two, negotiate and go have a party for 1. 5 or 2 hours. But that's my night done.

In FKK land I like to arrive much earlier, do a nice early room to get me into the mood, shower, food, recovery, massage, then finish off with another one or two sessions. I love the whole experience. But it is getting expensive to do it this way. To have several rooms in FKKs now requires an average spend, with entry, costing over €500 if you do like longer rooms. And even for an optifuk - €100 for 30 minutes is just crazy. One of my favourite ever days at Sharks was back in 2015 when I arrived at 2 pm and had four 50 e /30 min rooms (one outside) as entrees before the main event later. Fabulous entertainment and felt great fun having sessions with 5 girls in a day. I didn't even care about popping every time (not possible for me to have more than 2 in a day now). Just great fun. But not sure I want to be racking up 400 for quick sessions then a main session of nearly 300, add entry taxis and drinks and a great day in an FKK is €1000!

So whatever can be done to keep the prices down, and to discourage girls from major upsell without them having to give a lot, is worthwhile for all. And in the long run. As much for us tourists as locals.

[Sirioja]

Right up my alley!

Anyone seen my favorite MILF, Anjelica from Latvia, around these days?

I saw lovely Latvian Marina, but not thicker Angelika.

[Sirioja]

As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.

1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.

I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.

Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.

Big thanks for your great advice, waste of money for me to pay for such looks, when I prefer to pay for beauties and don't need to ask you from 100 to 150, when beauties for 150/60 are less expensive for me than Anka for 100/60. But I agree many Sharks girls don't worth 100/30 or 150/60, but none never forced me to go to room. Only Rhur German superstar for 60 really insisted I returned on Sunday after our at 4 am discovery when she was surprised compare to dirty Germans, but I didn't, now she knows, I want to be a number 1 choice or she doesn't deserve me among her busy business, when she doesn't need my money, but maybe she needs new sensations, when she is not able to keep control.

[Escape Artist]

Final room. Had to be with Vanilla. She is expensive and upsells badly unless restrained, but her skills are fabulous. Did 1. 5 hours which, with two extras cost me a negotiated 270 which wasn't bad. I did have girls offering the usual old 50/30 and 60/ hour but not the prettier girls.

Overall line up was slightly disappointing. But miles better than Oase tonight. See report.

As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.

1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.

I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.

Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.

[Escape Artist]

With the obvious change in pricing has anyone tried negotiating on time?

100 for 45 minutes. Maybe they would consider that a fair compromise. Your thoughts.

I've gone for this tactic several times and has only worked once for me. I'd be okay with this rate but find that the girls who are hell bent on the high prices are usually too stubborn to settle. I've even proposed committing to 2 hours for 200 with Melissa and she still would not budge.

[Perfectionist]

With the obvious change in pricing has anyone tried negotiating on time?

€100 for 45 minutes. Maybe they would consider that a fair compromise. Your thoughts.

[PlayToDef]

Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies.

Right up my alley!

Anyone seen my favorite MILF, Anjelica from Latvia, around these days?

[StrammerMax1]

I also like the Shark Club. But during Covid time the girls get crazy for the price. Special the new girls. What is more than 50%. I ask for normal service. But include French kissing and like my balls. A lot want to have for 30 min. 100 Euro. And that sorry is a no go and for sure I will never pay that but still some girls that offer that "normal" service for me also for the normal price. Some ask but than to stay one hour what is absolute OK. But never ever 100 Euro for 30 min. ! Nobody get this?

[Sirioja]

Based on my last visit a week ago I think you're right, it is still not as good as it was before but from my own experience it's still very much worth going. Otherwise I wouldn't be returning in three weeks.

It's worth noting that IMO Sharks has recovered much better than the other Frankfurt clubs.

Sharks was already number 1 around Frankfurt before covid, when other clubs were already most often quite empty, except Mainhattan on week ends evenings. Reason why so many girls left Oase where lack of business on 2019 , when I saw some new fresh beauties leaving after less than 2 weeks because not good business. And no tourists buses since covid, when most locals left Oase and Palace for Sharks.

[Canary]

Damn,

It sounds like sharks is still recovering.

Based on my last visit a week ago I think you're right, it is still not as good as it was before but from my own experience it's still very much worth going. Otherwise I wouldn't be returning in three weeks.

It's worth noting that IMO Sharks has recovered much better than the other Frankfurt clubs.

[Sirioja]

First night of 3 night trip early 2022. Last time in FKK land was September 2021. Naturally wondered what, if anything has changed. Answer. Not a lot.

Stayed at Intercity as Mojoman does. I used to stay at Maritim but horrible cobble stones to cross with case! Still same with Intercity but it is right next to Fitnessfabric. A magnificent gym with a great vibe. I have seen several of the Sharks girls in that gym over the years and in 2018 spoke to one of them and did an hour back at Intercity before going to Sharks!

So to the return. Normal entry, needed to show double vaccination plus booster but no issue having done so. Name requirement but nobody checks and therefore didn't use my name or number.

Arrived Friday 7 pm. Club fairly quiet but a LOT of old faces were present. Simone, Clara, Anna, Cosmina, and others. Shiva is there (Iranian) - very pretty face but big body. Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies. If that's your thing no problem. It's not mine. I like athletic / gym bodies and there were not many to see. Tamara approached early and was tempted. Pretty face but silicones did not tempt me. My long time sharks fav Vanilla came and said Hi and though facially she is only 7/10 her body is 10/10 gym ripped. Nearly succumbed early but managed to resist. First session with blonde tall Eva. Serbian with glasses and talons. Reasonable but no more than that. She was 100/30. I normally don't do short rooms but she was nothing special and I quit after 30 minutes and was glad time was up..

Roxana is lovely sweet. Also no problem for me about foods, salmon when I arrive on time, good pastas, puree, yogurts, I wish for looks on same level than foods. About Oase, real visits just talk, when Sharks is really not at best at the moment.

[ParSeeker]

Masks are optional at Sharks now.

Must still show vaccination cards or pay the 5 euro at front for the Covid fast antigen test.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Damn,

It sounds like sharks is still recovering.

[PayForIt]

First night of 3 night trip early 2022. Last time in FKK land was September 2021. Naturally wondered what, if anything has changed. Answer. Not a lot.

Stayed at Intercity as Mojoman does. I used to stay at Maritim but horrible cobble stones to cross with case! Still same with Intercity but it is right next to Fitnessfabric. A magnificent gym with a great vibe. I have seen several of the Sharks girls in that gym over the years and in 2018 spoke to one of them and did an hour back at Intercity before going to Sharks!

So to the return. Normal entry, needed to show double vaccination plus booster but no issue having done so. Name requirement but nobody checks and therefore didn't use my name or number.

Arrived Friday 7 pm. Club fairly quiet but a LOT of old faces were present. Simone, Clara, Anna, Cosmina, and others. Shiva is there (Iranian) - very pretty face but big body. Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies. If that's your thing no problem. It's not mine. I like athletic / gym bodies and there were not many to see. Tamara approached early and was tempted. Pretty face but silicones did not tempt me. My long time sharks fav Vanilla came and said Hi and though facially she is only 7/10 her body is 10/10 gym ripped. Nearly succumbed early but managed to resist. First session with blonde tall Eva. Serbian with glasses and talons. Reasonable but no more than that. She was 100/30. I normally don't do short rooms but she was nothing special and I quit after 30 minutes and was glad time was up.

Bar staff largely the same but with new gay guy with green hair who was great fun!

Had the professional massage. Nearly had second session with Roxanna (pretty blonde) and her short dark haired friend (Beya?) but resisted.

I really do not understand the negative comments on here about the food. For me it is really good. Hot, good selection, beef is firm but not fatty and always plenty of fruits. Compare to Oase (see that thread for report tonight on day 2) and it is amazing at Sharks.

Final room. Had to be with Vanilla. She is expensive and upsells badly unless restrained, but her skills are fabulous. Did 1. 5 hours which, with two extras cost me a negotiated 270 which wasn't bad. I did have girls offering the usual old 50/30 and 60/ hour but not the prettier girls.

Overall line up was slightly disappointing. But miles better than Oase tonight. See report.