FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

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[David1266]

My point is that €1000/9 h is a great deal for 97% of girls. But it's a really shitty deal for Maria, who is the top 0. 3%. Remember that the top girl makes €2000-3000 a day.

[David1266]

I would probably say even more than that, 1000/9 hrs is probably the kind of offer that will make them not want to spend any time with you, again you may think of your self as a stud, but the girls are there not there because they just love spending time with random dudes, sure yeah many of them actually do enjoy sex but I hope everyone involved here understands that in most cases they are there because of circumstance, yes by their own choice, sure no one is forcing them to be there, but they are there to make money first and foremost.

Sure there may be day that she's not in the mood and sitting with someone just to kill time for 1000 may sounds like a decent deal considering you are not talking about 9 hrs of continuous action but, again they can make much more than that on average and that's what they are there to do.

Generally in a place like sharks if they are not in the mood they just do not come as it is the case with Maria, so if she's there then yes 1000/9 hrs is not going to cut it.

I also think that she may be booked by VIP and I heard that they usually book girl for 3-5 hours at 300-400/ h rate (including generous tip). One girl told me that one VIP paid her 500 E / h. If she takes 9 hours deal at even 1800 euro, she may lose a VIP call (which happens at any random moment).

[Prelude141]

In addition to how tolerable / intolerable it would be to spend 9 hours with the particular client, value to the girl is likely ultimately determined by time and day of the week / how many other guests in the club. 1000 e guaranteed at 12 pm on Tuesday may be a great deal. 1000 e for a high earner at 4 pm Saturday may mean she takes a loss for more hours spent in the room.

It's funny how only 3 years ago, this would have been an absurd discussion.

I'm not sure this is funny to have this board flooded with discussion on rates, I would prefer to read reviews and sex experience but fact is that the hobby is turning in a very unpleasant situation with the current requested rates and it will continue as long as you guys carry on visiting and paying such prices. I don't have much hope but I wish management will loose business and regulate the prices to get customers back. Club is pretty much dead till 7 pm Monday to Thursday, slightly busy after 7 pm and busy as usual Friday and Saturday, I hope the loss of revenue for the club vs pre covid will trigger a regulation of rates charged by the girls but not sure that can happen.

[TimCreek]

IMHO 1000/9 hours is way too low for THE top girl like Maria even if you are a very attractive man. Top girl makes 250-300/ h because of extra service like DFK CIM, and many 30 min sessions finishes in 15 min, which makes it even higher. And My understanding is that she has a continuous flow of customers all day without much effort.

I would probably say even more than that, 1000/9 hrs is probably the kind of offer that will make them not want to spend any time with you, again you may think of your self as a stud, but the girls are there not there because they just love spending time with random dudes, sure yeah many of them actually do enjoy sex but I hope everyone involved here understands that in most cases they are there because of circumstance, yes by their own choice, sure no one is forcing them to be there, but they are there to make money first and foremost.

Sure there may be day that she's not in the mood and sitting with someone just to kill time for 1000 may sounds like a decent deal considering you are not talking about 9 hrs of continuous action but, again they can make much more than that on average and that's what they are there to do.

Generally in a place like sharks if they are not in the mood they just do not come as it is the case with Maria, so if she's there then yes 1000/9 hrs is not going to cut it.

[Escape Artist]

IMHO 1000/9 hours is way too low for THE top girl like Maria even if you are a very attractive man. Top girl makes 250-300/ h because of extra service like DFK CIM, and many 30 min sessions finishes in 15 min, which makes it even higher. And My understanding is that she has a continuous flow of customers all day without much effort.

In addition to how tolerable / intolerable it would be to spend 9 hours with the particular client, value to the girl is likely ultimately determined by time and day of the week / how many other guests in the club. 1000 e guaranteed at 12 pm on Tuesday may be a great deal. 1000 e for a high earner at 4 pm Saturday may mean she takes a loss for more hours spent in the room.

It's funny how only 3 years ago, this would have been an absurd discussion.

[Long420]

For my many visits, no problem with Sharks staff and desk even improved, but I agree for the big fall for Sharks casting and Oase is better value now with less upselling, even less girls, but quantity don t make quality as I so often wrote. 1 high level to repeat, weekly for a guy like me, is better than mass who upsell for only average.

I think its because you are European tourist. Most girls cannot speak German so they really cannot distinguish. I can only say for Chinese and Asian tourists. They behave differently and try to hunt us and charge more. Yes, I was in Oase recently and the line up is pretty decent. I was happy to see the young new star Cleo at Oase. I this she is the current best in Frankfurt area.

[David1266]

Thanks to Anyone who want to stop visiting sharks. The less customers the less competition for attractive girls. Subsequently the pressure of hiking prices would also diminish. Thus would turn into buyers' market.

I don't mind pay 200/60 for the most beautiful beauties with best service attitude. But I don't want to see too many While complaining about the prices being too high, but also competing with me for attractive women.

So the win-win situation is that:

1) some guys save their precious toil and sweat hardest-earned money by stop visiting Sharks.

2) I get attractive women with less competition and cost-effectiveness.

Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.

IMHO 1000/9 hours is way too low for THE top girl like Maria even if you are a very attractive man. Top girl makes 250-300/ h because of extra service like DFK CIM, and many 30 min sessions finishes in 15 min, which makes it even higher. And My understanding is that she has a continuous flow of customers all day without much effort.

[Turgid]

German-americans are the most wanted right now. Especially if daddy was settled in rammstein and is part of green party.

I banged an American German in Oase 13 years ago. Her father was American and her mother was German. Very attractive physically but I'm afraid her service was not all that good.

[Sirioja]

Sharks is a tourist trap and I think only good for local germans. The management fails to understand foriegn guests especially Chinese / Asians. The girls also try to hunt the asians and charge more. Its a no go place for tourists.

For my many visits, no problem with Sharks staff and desk even improved, but I agree for the big fall for Sharks casting and Oase is better value now with less upselling, even less girls, but quantity don t make quality as I so often wrote. 1 high level to repeat, weekly for a guy like me, is better than mass who upsell for only average.

[Sirioja]

German Government is making hundreds of billion euro depths, as an excuse they still use corona. Politicians like Lauterbach and Nonnemacher still recommend to wear masks and to do vaccine. Hospitals have measures again, because "the numbers of infections are rising". Last week Germany had over 3 Million infections, at least this is what fake news state media pray.

This is LOL.

We get same information in France with new covid variant.

[Escape Artist]

German Government is making hundreds of billion euro depths, as an excuse they still use corona. Politicians like Lauterbach and Nonnemacher still recommend to wear masks and to do vaccine. Hospitals have measures again, because "the numbers of infections are rising". Last week Germany had over 3 Million infections, at least this is what fake news state media pray.

This is LOL.

I saw zero masks in Germany and if if I did see a few here and there, I wouldn't be so obsessed with it. What's tiring for me is talking to people who have such strong feelings about topics to which they only have superficial exposure.

Something that was reinforced to me: truth doesn't matter to people who start with a conclusion and work backwards. They will selectively find data points that support their beliefs and ignore ones that do not.

[Sirioja]

The main issue at the moment is NOT spending 200/ hour on the most beautiful girls (Catelea, Maria, Ariana, Bibi, Kitty, Lora, maxima, Lola, Simone, Celine, Stacy, etc), but spending 200/60 on unattractive / Mediocre ones.

Why some guys still agree to pay 200/60 or 100/30 to mediocre or average girls but also complain? These guys could simply go away if too expensive and find a more optic young alternates.

Because these average girls are indulged by their regular customers. So These regular customers always pay whatever irrational rate their regular favorites ask, even if these girls have become aged and ugly.

For example,

So you should blame customers who choose her and keep her in business. I never chose Emma since 2016.

Catelea consistently quotes me 200/60 with GFE. Lora (fr) also quoted me 200/60, the same rate she offered to Sirioja, who booked 10 hours at that rate 200/60 already .

So if you don't like Catelea, Lora (FR) or Maria (ukr), then just save your money and leave away.

Lora. FR when was fresh before March 2023 and her prostitute, Ariana Grande style, fake poney tail, was the only one to worth 200/60 for me at Sharks, to speak french while sex, what I missed so much, so I was not really objective. Maxima who is not French is not at all as pretty, even beautiful eyes and teeth and not fresh behavior but professionnal. Now with much cellulite on ass. German Jasmin from Munich lowered her rate to 150/60 after our discovery, when she was fire in bed. I had Germans coming from escorting for less than 200/60 on 2022 and 2023 , when I never beg, but from my way with them.

[PumDiPum]

Meh. No need to scapegoat Americans as we don't make up a significant amount of the clientele to have that big an effect. Simple math. Same with the scapegoating of Asians. Those two populations together make up, at most, 5% of total guests. At any given time, there are probably less than 10 total Americans or Asians visiting Sharks.

Shark's business if probably something along the lines of 1/3 German-German, 1/3 Turkish-German, 1/4 other European, plus the rest of the world filling in the remainder. To have such vitriol for these populations is just scapegoating and hate-mongering more than reality.

German-americans are the most wanted right now. Especially if daddy was settled in rammstein and is part of green party.

[PumDiPum]

LOL, still on this? How sad.

German Government is making hundreds of billion euro depths, as an excuse they still use corona. Politicians like Lauterbach and Nonnemacher still recommend to wear masks and to do vaccine. Hospitals have measures again, because "the numbers of infections are rising". Last week Germany had over 3 Million infections, at least this is what fake news state media pray.

This is LOL.