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  1. #29647

    Tip for quality

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I'm also very interested to hear the names of those girls. We keep on reading posts about beautiful girls with great service in NRW or girls with great service in Sharks, but strangely enough we never read any names of those girls and NRW clubs.
    Valeria. It at GG for 140/60 . Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro at Sharks for 150/60 . I keep my best for me when she is old Germans superstar. Zayra. Ro and Melisa. Ro at Freubad.

  2. #29646
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    300460? Do you have "Tourist" stamped on your forehead? Funny how this never seems to happen to most other people.So here we have another tourist (PayForIt) who claims to 'know it all' about prices and service, yet it's totally clear that he doesn't regularly read this forum and that he is clueless about prices and price negotiations.

    LOL, another complete miss!
    Oh for sure I don't doubt that the girls don't see me as a regular. But many in the club do know me of old. I cannot speak of what happens to other guys. I don't believe I have ever claimed to "know it all" about prices (or service). It is nonsense that I don't read the forum (not only do I but I regularly contribute particularly when in Germany / attending FKKs). But as Shark16 sensibly wrote. Many girls do "try it on" and know that some guys will just pay what they ask.

    I didn't succumb to silly demands or requests. If 2 years ago I had predicated that a LOT of girls were demanding 200/ hour for standard service, I suspect you would have been one of those to write that I don't know what I was talking about (or had "tourist" stamped on my head). But that would have been a very accurate prediction in this club.

    Read back 4 or 5 pages (you seem quick to tell me I don't do so. In which case you won't mind me telling you to take your own advice) and you will see that it is fast becoming the norm for a lot of the girls seeking 200/ hour. Some didn't. Some went straight from 100/60 to 150/60 - but not many. You say I'm the only one who got quoted higher. Not so if you read back. And yes I did get quoted 300/60 for an hour but it included an extra which I would expect to pay more for. Even then. It was far too high and I rejected it on the two occasions that was put to me.

    Contrary to your misconceived and totally unsubstantiated or corroborated notion, I am far from clueless about prices and particularly less clueless about negotiation which is 95% of my professional life. What is more obvious to me is that you are the one who does not have a clue about the approach / viewpoint / rationale of tourists to FKKs. We are a different breed to those who are lucky enough to live close. Those who can attend weekly or more often, who can easily drive a hard bargain without any concern, knowing full well that if the negotiation doesn't play out as planned it matters not. Tomorrow, next week will be another day / another chance. If you are coming to FKKs twice a year it's VERY different. You don't want to waste the opportunity. So when you narrow down your preferences to a few girls, and find that they (being perhaps some of the most popular) are driving the hard bargain, your choice is to walk away because you feel you are being squeezed for 50 extra, or you have the mentality that you won't be back here for maybe 6 months so to hell with it. And go with it provided it ain't too unreasonable. I think many of the girls are sharp enough to know that that is the case. With guys they see weekly they probably chance their arms less. Knowing that this is a very regular punter who they are better of snaring for 150/60 with a chance of many repeats than cashing on a twice yearly visitor who they are less worried about alienating.

    So perhaps before you start bandying about bullshit about people being clueless about prices / negotiation or mis-quoting about "knowing it all" you might want to consider things from a different angle.

    Oh and by the way, when a guy (a tourist) who is attending a German FKK without being able to speak a single sentence in German, its really not difficult for girls to see "tourist" stamped on his head! That's because it is very obvious from the off………that he is just that……. A tourist. He doesn’t need the stamp on the head.

  3. #29645
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyFromParis  [View Original Post]
    It's true that it's possible today to find girls who charge 100 for 1 hour. About my experiences, 3% of girls still continue to charge 100/60, less than 10% charge 200/60 and the large majority still ask 150/60, even among the most popular girls. But the truth is that there are no rules. The same girl can charge a guy for 150/60 included blowjob without condom, french kiss, and to another guy it will be 150/30 blowjob with condom. It's why it's not relevant to name girls, especially those who accept 100/60. Also, some girls don't like to stay 1h in a room, it's why they try to charge more than it should be.
    +1. Very well put.

    Let me just add that "a quote" is not the same as "going rate". So, so many girls try their luck. Some (very few) because they can (less than a handful IMHO), but most of them simply because they get away with it. You will be surprised how many hot "200 E quote girls" that happily accept 150 E /60 with no lack of perfomance. I hate to say this, but if you choose to ignore the fact that certain FKK clubs these days have some similarities with a Turkish bazar, then you lose and need to pay an overprice.

    But I clearly understand that this is not easy to comprehend for an occasional visitor. Or, the ones considering themselves as "premium guests". The last wellwritten reports from wellknown punters show this.

  4. #29644
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    300460? Do you have "Tourist" stamped on your forehead? Funny how this never seems to happen to most other people.



    LOL, I love your sense of humor Siri! So here we have another tourist (PayForIt) who claims to 'know it all' about prices and service, yet it's totally clear that he doesn't regularly read this forum and that he is clueless about prices and price negotiations.

    LOL, another complete miss!
    Small Simona. Ro, 40 kgs, may ask 300/60 for few baby Romanian kisses, very expensive per kilo.

  5. #29643
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyTour  [View Original Post]
    Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.

    This year, I had 20 visits to Sharks and talked to more than 70% girls (except very ugly or old or fat) at Sharks, none of them quote 100/60. Usually 150/60 before August now 200/60 most likely.
    Can find at Sharks girls for 150/60 who are higher level than your ranked as top girls, full natural with no tattoo Sena. Ro for example and in some other clubs in Germany, can find even higher level than at Sharks, for less than 150/60 , when you don't behave like a tourist, even if you are a foreigner like me. Game now at Sharks is to fuck tourist behavior with expensive for low quality.

  6. #29642
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyTour  [View Original Post]
    Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.

    This year, I had 20 visits to Sharks and talked to more than 70% girls (except very ugly or old or fat) at Sharks, none of them quote 100/60. Usually 150/60 before August now 200/60 most likely.
    It's true that it's possible today to find girls who charge 100 for 1 hour. About my experiences, 3% of girls still continue to charge 100/60, less than 10% charge 200/60 and the large majority still ask 150/60, even among the most popular girls. But the truth is that there are no rules. The same girl can charge a guy for 150/60 included blowjob without condom, french kiss, and to another guy it will be 150/30 blowjob with condom. It's why it's not relevant to name girls, especially those who accept 100/60. Also, some girls don't like to stay 1h in a room, it's why they try to charge more than it should be.

  7. #29641
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    If they work, You can get amazing naturals Brenda or friendly Alina or Sabrina, who are among the best at Sharks,.
    Ok, Brenda, Alina, Sabina are your (Siri) top three at Sharks.

    Yes, if in 2015, it was correct. Today, it might be different. Although I still respect all these women.

    I believe, at Sharks, in November 2023, the top three girls optic wise should be: Catelea (22), Kitty (22), Maria (20, Ukraine). Ariana could be the 4th one.

    They all quote at least 100/30 200/60.

    If you think too expensive, then try other alternatives such as some old or tan or fat or heavy tattoos or Botox lips women.

    Even if at 1 pm, Kitty is in Club already. Catelea comes usually around 3-4 pm.

    If someone disagree, please list your top three here. If someones have not visited Sharks for long time, please do not post wrong information to mislead others.

  8. #29640
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyTour  [View Original Post]
    Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.
    Yes, I'm also very interested to hear the names of those girls. We keep on reading posts about beautiful girls with great service in NRW or girls with great service in Sharks, but strangely enough we never read any names of those girls and NRW clubs.

  9. #29639
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    200/60 is standard service including BBBJ and FS (obviously covered).

    I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" (never heard that before!
    300460? Do you have "Tourist" stamped on your forehead? Funny how this never seems to happen to most other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I think I saw you there on Saturday. Are you a very tall, bald, slim guy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja
    Tall and bald? Exactly me
    LOL, I love your sense of humor Siri! So here we have another tourist (PayForIt) who claims to 'know it all' about prices and service, yet it's totally clear that he doesn't regularly read this forum and that he is clueless about prices and price negotiations.

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Sharks back to its former glories.
    LOL, another complete miss!

  10. #29638
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Can still find between 100 and 150 for 1 hour with FK, DATY, BBBJ, in Germany and even with some at Sharks
    Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.

    This year, I had 20 visits to Sharks and talked to more than 70% girls (except very ugly or old or fat) at Sharks, none of them quote 100/60. Usually 150/60 before August now 200/60 most likely.

  11. #29637
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Tall and bald? Exactly me, but I couldn't find any attractive to pay for on Saturday party, like on previous visit on a Sunday party on September, 2 visits and full balls, but I ate good on the 2 visits. Sharks is now where guys pay to be fucked with foot deep in ass without gel by girls, when still good values elsewhere in Germany. Very regulars in this business go elsewhere since a while. Pity when staff make good job, but their girls fuck them.
    Can still find between 100 and 150 for 1 hour with FK, DATY, BBBJ, in Germany and even with some at Sharks where the highest levels are not the most expensive and Sharks is only 1 club among many others in Germany. Exactly same than for Globe which is not best value for money and quality in Switzerland. I would say Sharks or Globe are now for those behaving like tourist, or few who are in love for a girl, when only love in bed for me but need fresh deep GFE, elegant natural woman look. I saw one a bit elegant on party, but silicon, at German table. Silicon worth less expensive for me than naturals, when plastic is low level like porn.

  12. #29636
    Quote Originally Posted by Enphl  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, I was afraid of that, I'd be getting there noon - 1 pm time frame staying til 3 pm at the latest. I've gone that early to other FKKs and it's been pretty mixed.

    I've never stayed the whole day before. Maybe in my younger days I could see 3 girls, but these days its more like one or two at most. So I stay 2-4 hrs usually during the day and not evening.

    How about going to Palace, I could stay til maybe 4 pm. Still too early?
    If they work, You can get amazing naturals Brenda or friendly Alina or Sabrina, who are among the best at Sharks, at 1 pm. For sure, not best time, but on Saturday party, despite quantity, casting was really not impressive for me, bad value for money for such looks, couldn t find a attractive, when I saw prettier for less expensive at Oase on Friday 3 November, even less quantity. Facts were crowd on party, but many girls not busy.

  13. #29635
    Quote Originally Posted by SethiatSpace  [View Original Post]
    A Monday at noon seems like the absolute worst combo you could choose. I don't think I would even bother and would just get a higher quality escort incall.
    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude141  [View Original Post]
    Save your money for a day you will have time. Staying 2 hours only on a Monday at noon is a guarantee to be disappointed.
    Thanks, I was afraid of that, I'd be getting there noon - 1 pm time frame staying til 3 pm at the latest. I've gone that early to other FKKs and it's been pretty mixed.

    I've never stayed the whole day before. Maybe in my younger days I could see 3 girls, but these days its more like one or two at most. So I stay 2-4 hrs usually during the day and not evening.

    How about going to Palace, I could stay til maybe 4 pm. Still too early?

  14. #29634
    Quote Originally Posted by Enphl  [View Original Post]
    I plan to go in about a month on a Monday in the early afternoon. (I have to be back in frankfurt in the late afternoon / early evening). If I arrive at noon or 1 pm, and play to stay for 2 hrs or so, is that "too early"? I know there are more in the evening. One time I went to an FKK about that time. I saw maybe 10 girls but half were eating, the other half were talking to each other. The last time I went to sharks was late afternoon and there were too many to count. Another option is to perhaps try palace. Being closer to frankfurt, I should be able to be there later
    A Monday at noon seems like the absolute worst combo you could choose. I don't think I would even bother and would just get a higher quality escort incall.

  15. #29633
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I think I saw you there on Saturday. Are you a very tall, bald, slim guy? Think I saw you take a very tall dark slim girl up the stairs by the jacuzzis. Apologies if not you.

    I'm disappointed that I went to Oase Thursday instead of Friday which sounds much better. I don't know Katalea or Kitty. Is one of them the tiny thin girl with very long dark hair past her ass who sits on a bar stool right hand side of the bar (from entrance)? Spoke with her and liked her figure but she is a miserable type so I declined. She seemed to want to talk mainly to the Asian guys.

    There were a lot of options but (a) the rooms upstairs and even a couple downstairs are just far too hot and (b) the upselling is really beginning to be annoying.

    Before pricing changes FKKs were a 3 or 4 year trip for me. Not now. Whilst I still love the model of being in a bar / club full of naked women, as I've posted previously, the pricing structure has diminished my interest. For the same price I paid for 3 rooms on Saturday night I can have a 10/10 worldie spinner in Dubai for the whole night. I could probably buy one of the bars in Thailand for a little more money! Spain is now cheaper than Germany. The girls in E92 Fuengirola are 200/ hour no price for extras other than anal (most don't do that or CIM). The girls in Scandalos Malaga are 250/ hour or 400/2 hours. Geneva recently was 200/ hour. One night in Amsterdam recently - 150/ hour in a red light club. What is possible in FKKs is to find many girls who will do extras of CIM and anal. Most of the girls in Spain (not all) will not offer these services at all and indeed if they don't know you already some will refuse BBBJ. But overall, IMHO, Germany has become really quite expensive. Especially, as you say, for the quality (or lack of it) on offer. Despite all that, I know for certain I will return. But whereas historically that would be several times a year. It won't be in future. I suspect I will limit myself to one (max two) Germany trips probably in better weather to enjoy the outdoors of Oase and Sharks with the naked ladies around the pool. I get that that girls want to make the most they can. But value for money in Germany has left the building! I would rather pay the extra to fly to Dubai / Thailand / Cambodia / Singapore / Vietnam and have better locations / places of interest / other things to do / and value for money in the clubs (as well as diversity of cultures available). The surprise for me this trip was Palace. For me. On a par with Sharks this time.
    Tall and bald? Exactly me, but I couldn't find any attractive to pay for on Saturday party, like on previous visit on a Sunday party on September, 2 visits and full balls, but I ate good on the 2 visits. Sharks is now where guys pay to be fucked with foot deep in ass without gel by girls, when still good values elsewhere in Germany. Very regulars in this business go elsewhere since a while. Pity when staff make good job, but their girls fuck them.

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