FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Steve 9696]

I've RTFF and am still am unclear on the tern 'gypsy service'. Methinks this must be a central European term?

Believe the notorious Kosher Kowboy uses the term Gypsies to refer to his regulars at Dietzenbach, a well known AO (bareback) house near Frankfurt. Thus Gypsy services would presumably mean bareback.

Read on at your own peril for an OT word origins and geography commentary.

I assume the term Gypsies in this context came from the often confused Roma (a race / people) who are sometimes called Gypsies and Romania the country, where most of the girls are from. I believe less than 10% of Romanians are Roma / Gypsy and that is just happenstance — the two words (Roma and Romania) come from completely different origins. And the word Gypsy comes from the mistaken notion that the Roma's were from Egypt, when in fact they originated from northern India.

To summarize, the word Gypsy came from mistaking a race / people as representing a certain country (Egypt) and we are now reversing that by mistaking a nationality (Romanian) for a race / people (Roma). Clear as mud?

[Horny Harry]

As usual and suspected the club was packed. All of the girls seem to be stuck on 100 euros for 30 minutes so clearly there's some type of agreement going on, I don't remember this being the case last year. There were also many girls there just to make a fast buck with their boyfriend's along for the ride.

Yes, the E100/30 min deal was also in place last year. Long waiting times for rooms, hence the price increase.

Anyway, going to parties is for amateurs, unless you don't go to fuck but instead you feel lonely and want to chill, socialise, drink free beer (GT for example), go to the sauna or watch football on TV.

Avoid parties if you're into doing multiple sessions and want to sample as many girls as possible. The waiting times, the crowds, and the limited availability of girls seriously dampens the fun.

[Rocky V]

It is remarkable how many mongers consider getting AO service from a working girl as a prize or as something to aspire to during their club visits. It is like thanking a surgeon for not sterilizing the surgical tools before your surgery. I would run 100 miles from a girl that offers such as service to me, because it would be clear that she would offer the same to many others.

I'm not surprised that working girls sometimes offer AO to a regular and not to a random mongering Joe, maybe thinking that they would not run the same health risk of getting a deadly viral infection. Most of these girls are school dropouts with very poor capabilities of doing anything else in life, so let's not consider their judgment on health risk behaviors as if they were expert doctors. They have been given with the gift of beauty by mother nature, but they are generally poorly educated and naive.

For those who are surprised about how much people care about safe sex to avoid deadly infections, like HIV, HepC, etc. Compared to the good old times in the '70's. Well, the very appearance and global spreading of these deadly infections during the beginning of the '80's is precisely the reason why most people are promoting safe sex behaviors now.

Stay safe guys!

Rock.

[Canary]

While trying to get some really kinky ideas for my first Sharks visit of the year next Friday I stumbled across a Porn site showing mixed sex wrestling, my goodness what a turn on.

It's really just another form of male submissiveness letting the girl dominate & it ultimately finishes with various types of sex acts, (HJ, BJ, FS etc).

What a shame this isn't available at Sharks, I would be in front of the queue. Too much energy consumption for the girl I think!

[Nick The G]

... generally speaking its not even enough to be a club regular; you need also to be a high roller and be prepared to spend hundreds on the same girl each month. Its really got to be worth her while to keep you as a customer. Worth her while to keep you interested and keep you from wandering into the arms of another hooker.

True. And some guys manage to keep two or three ladies in different clubs on this level.

There is an additional perspective: those of us who practice AO run into the chance to become fathers. Even if one is allowed and willing to fuck AO, some girls will tell you that they don't want you to come inside their pussy. They will say, they have to be careful because they don't take the pill. But they are willing to play for pay.

And the dark side of it could be, that they want to have a baby from you, to ensure a better life for themselves.

[Nick The G]

As usual and suspected the club was packed. All of the girls seem to be stuck on 100 euros for 30 minutes so clearly there's some type of agreement going on, I don't remember this being the case last year.

This "sort of agreement" was the case last year too! That is not my own experience, since I never have been to a club on the 24th or 31st of December. But there have been enough reports on this fact, maybe more by oral communication or in german fora.

[Sirioja]

Totally agree. I am a regular at Sharks and I have a ton of buddies there who are regulars as well. AO is something you won't get there unless you establish a real close relationship with one of the girls, which involves substantial material investments going her way.

BBBJ on the other hand was an absolute standard for FKK clubs for as long as they exist. Nothing people even posted about because it was totally normal. The law changed last year which theoretically should have changed this. Note: "Theoretically should have".

True, most often with most girls in most normal clubs, except Bernds, and that's why many go to AO clubs to fuck ugly AO girls. If they could fuck AO princesses at Sharks or GT, then why to go to Dietzenbach or Villa Venus or Freude? Only for M&Ms and mandarines, but with eyes crying?

Or maybe with desperate girls only getting low business.

Better not to trust all what is written. Some are not so reliable. Even I m not on the best level for English, but quite easy to notice and always better to see how the guy looks like and how girls welcome him as soon they see him, to understand if girls are so in love for this BF.

[Horny Harry]

Free parking. Pretty safe. But you better not have even one alcoholic drink or any drug in your body while driving, else you will be picked up by the local Polizei, at least a 50% chance.

50%? How did you get that number? I've never seen a police checkpoint near Sharks in the Roehm Strasse that checks for DUI.

[Hitman2]

The chances of acquiring this service in clubs like FKK Sharks are pretty slim (almost zero) unless you are handing over much currency on a regular basis. You aint going to get AO thrown in for the price of a once a month 30 minute session. Not unless the hooker in question looks like the back of the Frankfurt Airport shuttle bus! Heck the ladies are now even trying to charge extra for BBBJ. Of course the occasional exception can possibly occur but generally speaking AO dont come easy or dont come cheap. Not in a club like FKK Sharks anyway! But by all means keep searching for the Holy Grail. Its actually easy enough to find provided you are prepared to pay the price.

Totally agree. I am a regular at Sharks and I have a ton of buddies there who are regulars as well. AO is something you won't get there unless you establish a real close relationship with one of the girls, which involves substantial material investments going her way.

BBBJ on the other hand was an absolute standard for FKK clubs for as long as they exist. Nothing people even posted about because it was totally normal. The law changed last year which theoretically should have changed this. Note: "Theoretically should have" . .

[Der Auslander]

Super! We have another AO discussion here. And it will be going on for weeks.

Just talk. Guys shooting the breeze and hoping to find the Holy Grail! Most guys reading this forum and who attend FKK / Sauna Clubs will never ever get offered AO in any of the Frankfurt Mega-Clubs (Sharks / Oase / World / Palace / Mainhattan / Rom) even if they are club regulars or not. If you are an infrequent FKK / Sauna Club visitor your chance of getting this type of AO offer is probably zero and even if you are a regular visitor spending a hundred or so per session your chances are not much better. Of course exceptional circumstances can apply but generally speaking its not even enough to be a club regular; you need also to be a high roller and be prepared to spend hundreds on the same girl each month. Its really got to be worth her while to keep you as a customer. Worth her while to keep you interested and keep you from wandering into the arms of another hooker. Any guy I know who receives this type of service drops several hundred euros on his hooker of choice per visit and does this on a pretty regular basis. He may only visit the club once or twice a month but he will book his lady for the entire evening, or for several hours at the very least and do this on a regularly. Or he may visit the club two or three times a week (if local) and drop two or three hundred euros on the same lady each visit. Any guy spending thousands per annum on the same lady is definitely a very very good customer and definitely worth keeping. Hookers will fight (or at the very least compete) to get and to keep customers of this sort. She only needs several regulars of this type to make a very decent living. An offer of regular AO to keep a very good and big spending customer of this type is certainly very possible. But most guys whether they are regular customers or not will never be offered AO. Not unless they are splashing a considerable amount of cash on a regular basis. If you don't have or are not prepared to spend lots of cash, you need to go to FKK Dietzenbach or clubs of this level for your AO fix. The chances of acquiring this service in clubs like FKK Sharks are pretty slim (almost zero) unless you are handing over much currency on a regular basis. You aint going to get AO thrown in for the price of a once a month 30 minute session. Not unless the hooker in question looks like the back of the Frankfurt Airport shuttle bus! Heck the ladies are now even trying to charge extra for BBBJ. Of course the occasional exception can possibly occur but generally speaking AO dont come easy or dont come cheap. Not in a club like FKK Sharks anyway! But by all means keep searching for the Holy Grail. Its actually easy enough to find provided you are prepared to pay the price.

[HarvestBoi]

I've RTFF and am still am unclear on the tern 'gypsy service'. Methinks this must be a central European term?

[Apple777]

As usual and suspected the club was packed. All of the girls seem to be stuck on 100 euros for 30 minutes so clearly there's some type of agreement going on, I don't remember this being the case last year. There were also many girls there just to make a fast buck with their boyfriend's along for the ride.

[Gino02]

Super! We have another AO discussion here. And it will be going on for weeks.

I remember those days when nobody knew about the term AO and everybody was fucking without condoms in the RLD in Frankfurt. That was quite some time before HIV appeared and changed the scene, and a long time before FKK clubs (with a lot of polymer business, be it condoms or silicon implants) became trendy.

Wow! Nick The can I call you "God" of mongering? I don't know if I will be able to even get it up by the time I have as many years of mongering experience as yours, even with the pills! Much respect to you Sir! Seriously. 🙏

[LaBambaBoy]

Free parking. Pretty safe. But you better not have even one alcoholic drink or any drug in your body while driving, else you will be picked up by the local Polizei, at least a 50% chance.

Well, since I don't drink at all, or do drugs at all (other than my little blue pill), I should be fine.

[Nick The G]

I also feel that AO became more common offer in previously non-AO clubs after the new law in 2017. Some girls told me that Clubs no longer specifically ban AO as both AO and BBBJ are equally illegal so they can't control one and not the other one. Many of them feel that if I'm breaking the law, might as well go for the maximum possible money or my pleasure or both.

Super! We have another AO discussion here. And it will be going on for weeks.

I remember those days when nobody knew about the term AO and everybody was fucking without condoms in the RLD in Frankfurt. That was quite some time before HIV appeared and changed the scene, and a long time before FKK clubs (with a lot of polymer business, be it condoms or silicon implants) became trendy.