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  1. #19056
    Both are right imo.

    A) I wouldn't dare to danger myself in Brazil. Don't speak portoguese. So all the places are too high risk for me. Spain might be an option.

    B) Thailand? Also either dangerous or no need in a too skinny or too fatty thai. There sure are some stunners. Then they cost you triple the money in central europe.

    And OF COURSE things gotten much worse to compared 3 yrs ago. No debate here. We had them all over the board.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    Your opinion, and I respect it as such. However, that is a harsh judgement.

    On any given day, these big Hessen clubs have a minimum of 80 to 100 girls, and in a week well over 150 each. They are generally young, reasonably slim; facially pretty? The last one depends on individual tastes of course. As for service, almost all of them give BBBJ in a 50 and many if not all give some amount of kissing in 50 and most give in a 100. That is not a huge departure from recent times past.

    Where else do we have such a venue? For sure nothing remotely like this at these prices exists (with a similar ambience and wellness and food and other facilities) in US / UK / Canada. Many mongers may not care for the look of girls in Brazil and Thailand and other sex destinations, so that is not an apt comparison.

    If you can't find good sessions, it is because your standards have become impossibly high after years of mongering and you are forgetting that over time prices increase for everything in the world. (Not you you personally, but the general you monger). These clubs still offer the best combination of a large secure clean environment with a hundred naked young Euro ladies ready to fuck and suck for a lousy 50. If there are any other clubs which offer comparable stuff, mongers would be flocking there. But there are nt, and they are not.

  2. #19055
    Approach varies. Some girls rove around like tigers and corner you. If you look elsewhere they will leave you alone. Most girls simply sit on the coaches and wait for you to make the first move.

    The quantiy of the LU at Sharks was high. I am guess 80+ girls. BTW: I moved afterwards to Mainhattan which I found a much more classy club with a LU of about 30+ girls. Still a fair quality from the looks. Cannot judge the service thougjh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2  [View Original Post]
    Thanks mate for the feedback.

    It's hit and miss sometime, everywhere. You cannot rely even for a LU of 80 girls, sometime.

    And my question? What was the approach policy in Sharks? Like the other Hessen big 4 ?

    İf the LU is that so dead in Sharks, maybe I should reconsider Oase, at least for optics and also good BBQ food.

  3. #19054
    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    Your opinion, and I respect it as such. However, that is a harsh judgement.

    On any given day, these big Hessen clubs have a minimum of 80 to 100 girls, and in a week well over 150 each. They are generally young, reasonably slim; facially pretty? The last one depends on individual tastes of course. As for service, almost all of them give BBBJ in a 50 and many if not all give some amount of kissing in 50 and most give in a 100. That is not a huge departure from recent times past.

    Where else do we have such a venue? For sure nothing remotely like this at these prices exists (with a similar ambience and wellness and food and other facilities) in US / UK / Canada. Many mongers may not care for the look of girls in Brazil and Thailand and other sex destinations, so that is not an apt comparison.

    If you can't find good sessions, it is because your standards have become impossibly high after years of mongering and you are forgetting that over time prices increase for everything in the world. (Not you you personally, but the general you monger). These clubs still offer the best combination of a large secure clean environment with a hundred naked young Euro ladies ready to fuck and suck for a lousy 50. If there are any other clubs which offer comparable stuff, mongers would be flocking there. But there are nt, and they are not.
    The problem is thus easily hinted at: they should increase the standard rate from 50 to 60. Then we could increase our 30 min expectation a notch at the same time, and management would have incentives to be tougher and smarter also in their ways.

    But 100 is silly. I stop mongering on the day if that becomes a norm.

  4. #19053

    Approach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni042  [View Original Post]
    Tuesday is Dessous-Tag at Sharks. And I don't like it either. BTW: I was at Sharks yesterday. And the line-up was pretty poor. So many fake boobs. Also no new stunners. Also only 3 (not so pretty) germans- which were either fat, old, or ugly (I don't like those blown up lips, yikes).
    Thanks mate for the feedback.

    It's hit and miss sometime, everywhere. You cannot rely even for a LU of 80 girls, sometime.

    And my question? What was the approach policy in Sharks? Like the other Hessen big 4 ?

    İf the LU is that so dead in Sharks, maybe I should reconsider Oase, at least for optics and also good BBQ food.

  5. #19052
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Very few doable girls at FKKs these days. I have done about 30 girls so far for the past 5 weeks or so, about 4 of them hot; not one of them worth repeating. The good service girls not worth repeating because of looks and the good looking girls not worth repeating because of service.
    Your opinion, and I respect it as such. However, that is a harsh judgement.

    On any given day, these big Hessen clubs have a minimum of 80 to 100 girls, and in a week well over 150 each. They are generally young, reasonably slim; facially pretty? The last one depends on individual tastes of course. As for service, almost all of them give BBBJ in a 50 and many if not all give some amount of kissing in 50 and most give in a 100. That is not a huge departure from recent times past.

    Where else do we have such a venue? For sure nothing remotely like this at these prices exists (with a similar ambience and wellness and food and other facilities) in US / UK / Canada. Many mongers may not care for the look of girls in Brazil and Thailand and other sex destinations, so that is not an apt comparison.

    If you can't find good sessions, it is because your standards have become impossibly high after years of mongering and you are forgetting that over time prices increase for everything in the world. (Not you you personally, but the general you monger). These clubs still offer the best combination of a large secure clean environment with a hundred naked young Euro ladies ready to fuck and suck for a lousy 50. If there are any other clubs which offer comparable stuff, mongers would be flocking there. But there are nt, and they are not.

  6. #19051
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni042  [View Original Post]
    .......................... BTW: I was at Sharks yesterday. And the line-up was pretty poor. So many fake boobs. Also no new stunners. Also only 3 (not so pretty) germans- which were either fat, old, or ugly (I don't like those blown up lips, yikes).
    Very few doable girls at FKKs these days. I have done about 30 girls so far for the past 5 weeks or so, about 4 of them hot; not one of them worth repeating. The good service girls not worth repeating because of looks and the good looking girls not worth repeating because of service.

  7. #19050

    Looking for the ultimate MILF.

    I plan to visit Sharks in the near future and I am wondering if there are some really great looking Milfs with outstanding service quality around. If not at Sharks where else can I find the ultimate service only a real woman can provide.

    Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

  8. #19049

    Beautiful women are generally overrated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I believe that guys whose optic girls are not regarded as hot by the majority of blokes are lucky. Throughout my life I have viewed girls who are considered hot by the majority of men as, in fact, optics. However, I have reached the stage in my life where beauty alone does not do it for me. Also, my experience at FKKs is that the hotter the provider the worse the service generally. I much prefer to have a good performance by an average girl than a lukewarm one by a looker. Sessioning an optic means spending more money for poorer service, I'd leave such sessions for inexperienced mongers which I once was.
    I agree with what you say. The quality of the experience has little to do with the level of beauty. If a girl is very beautiful and very bored you are clearly not going to have a good time, and affecting an air of boredom unfortunately goes hand in hand with beauty. I look for a certain attitude that is almost impossible to describe in words but essentially is the same thing I looked for in my younger days in the disco, I could call it a vibe. If the vibe is encouraging then proceed. When looking for the vibe looks become almost irrelevant.

  9. #19048

    Feedback and short review

    Tuesday is Dessous-Tag at Sharks. And I don't like it either. BTW: I was at Sharks yesterday. And the line-up was pretty poor. So many fake boobs. Also no new stunners. Also only 3 (not so pretty) germans- which were either fat, old, or ugly (I don't like those blown up lips, yikes).

    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2  [View Original Post]
    How is the outdoor facilities in Sharks? And do the girls also come to sunbath naked to the swimming pool, like they do in Oase? Swimming pool seems much smaller than the one in Oase.

    Are there any "Dessous-Tag" in Sharks?

    I will have a whole Thursday, but in Oase, Thursday is Dessous-Tag which I don't like.

    My last times in Sharks were many years ago and it was always on winter time, so I don't recall the outdoor.

  10. #19047
    Quote Originally Posted by Creature2  [View Original Post]
    How is the outdoor facilities in Sharks? And do the girls also come to sunbath naked to the swimming pool, like they do in Oase? Swimming pool seems much smaller than the one in Oase.

    Are there any "Dessous-Tag" in Sharks?

    I will have a whole Thursday, but in Oase, Thursday is Dessous-Tag which I don't like.

    My last times in Sharks were many years ago and it was always on winter time, so I don't recall the outdoor.
    Yes to your first question.

    Yes Tuesday to second question.

  11. #19046

    Outdoor?

    How is the outdoor facilities in Sharks? And do the girls also come to sunbath naked to the swimming pool, like they do in Oase? Swimming pool seems much smaller than the one in Oase.

    Are there any "Dessous-Tag" in Sharks?

    I will have a whole Thursday, but in Oase, Thursday is Dessous-Tag which I don't like.

    My last times in Sharks were many years ago and it was always on winter time, so I don't recall the outdoor.

  12. #19045
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    For sure there are men who seek high optics and high services. But you somewhat alluded to the problem. If there are only two WGs in the entire club that you are willing to consider, then you can't really shop around for a better deal. So that means if the WG stands her ground, you are forced to agree to her terms, because you have no other viable options.
    Beauties are rare for my eyes, in whole FKK land, so when I find only 1, I'm happy and motivated to work hard with her, like I did on 2 last week ends at Sharks. She was perfect for me: Classy, sophisticated, charming, good manners, not hunting, but she doesn't want to keep on working in FKK. I would have been happy to have her for only girl for my weekly visits, trying to build her to become great for me, like I did at LR. I m used to make girls will to improve for me and repeat. Best for my mind, because closest to real.

    Unfortunately, she was not motivated to work for cheap rate, but we had 3 1 h 100 rooms, her first and single rooms on a Sunday and Friday because she didn't want to work after. Rare woman type. 25 yo Romanian, brunette with wonderful blue eyes.

  13. #19044
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    But as long as you restrict yourself to just Sharks and Oase, the 4-6 trip per year mongers or even a monthly monger, that should be enough women to choose from while not having to compromise service expectations.
    As long as you don’t restrict yourself to just Sharks and Oase.

  14. #19043
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Think again. As a reminder here is an excerpt from a post by Ultrahappy in the Oase thread:"I remember one time, when she hadn't been at Oase so long, I tried to explain to a group of Chinese guys I was chatting with that it probably made sense to avoid her due to her bad service. Then, one of the Chinese guys promptly ran off to the room with her. One of the Chinese guys explained to me, "You see, it doesn't matter how bad she is. We don't get to fuck girls that look like that in China. It's worth it just for the experience of being able to fuck her -- no matter how bad the service is. ".
    That is called a fetish. Fetishes get old pretty quickly after you have scratched the itch. They fall under the category of fantasy. Most guys like to try girls that are different than what they normally have access to.

  15. #19042
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    For sure there are men who seek high optics and high services. But you somewhat alluded to the problem. If there are only two WGs in the entire club that you are willing to consider, then you can't really shop around for a better deal. So that means if the WG stands her ground, you are forced to agree to her terms, because you have no other viable options.
    It's a possible problem if there were only 2 girls, or for guys who need to try lots and lots of new girls. For me, in large clubs with 75+ girls, the number of girls who meet the minimum optics bar is 6-10. At smaller clubs with 40+ girls, that number is usually 3-5. Factoring in girls that aren't working that day or are on holiday, that leaves me with plenty of options to not have to agree to a girl's terms, at least not on a regular basis.

    The big issue I definitely see with high optic and service standards is the number of new girls to try. A friend tells me that he tried over 50 new girls last year in a little less than 100 club days. In comparison, I tried 12-15 new girls in under 50 visits. If I was an every weekend guy, there may not be enough girls. But as long as you restrict yourself to just Sharks and Oase, the 4-6 trip per year mongers or even a monthly monger, that should be enough women to choose from while not having to compromise service expectations.

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