Locations of BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's, Blow 'and' Go's.

[Meo Den]

The girls barely used their tongue or mouth at all, it's more like a mediocre hand job. They try to jerk you off as fast as possible so they can take the money and leave. One wouldn't even let me touch her boobs, like barely and seemed like she wanted to get it over as quickly as possible.

This what happens when foreigners ruin a place IE paying 400-500 k when locals were paying 300 k...

Unfortunately this is exactly right. I been told by numerous people and have my own experience that service and attitude at NPK has taken a nose-dive since around the time the first shops started asking foreigners for 400 k. Some suggest that it's gone the way Benny's and My Tien did a few years ago, 'a bad BJ is worse than no BJ'. It's undoubtedly related to foreigners paying whatever is asked and even tipping extra on top of being overcharged 'because it's cheaper than on Mars'.

In a previous mild disagreement with another poster I suggested to a newbie that he should agree to 400 k at NPK because 1) I knew they would otherwise let him walk and 2) in an effort to restrict what he gave to 400 k and not to 'not have change' or 'not want to be cheap' etc. But it was game over at NPK by then.

I mentioned the general principle of tipping leading to poorer service to a friend at the weekend and got the usual puzzled reaction. I understand it is counter-intuitive, but he is the type who will tip big even if the sevice is bad to make them like him more next time. Economic masochism. Financial Domination is a real thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_domination

God help us all.

It doesn't matter to me if the price for a great BJ is 200/400/600/800 k. This point I can never get through to the tippers. It's not about the money. It about the bad attitude and service that appear to result from overpaying, and the way that it seems to make the women less amenable (panties up, don't suck my breasts etc.). The more I give the less I get from you, as the old song goes.

Coincidence does not necessarily imply causation. When demand goes up quality often goes down simultaneous to prices rising. But my hunch is that there is more to it than this.

Mark my words, this is a broader problem. Look at the horror stories coming out of Little Tokyo, Pasteur, Bui Vien bars and massage joints, the hundred dollar hags in Vung Tau. Everywhere we read about foreigners being overcharged and underdelivered, and then tipping, which is like a red rag to a bull.

Being polite, friendly and empathic can get you further with an unspoiled service provider than showing weakness. Pay a fair price and reward them with repeat business.

Disclaimer: I have overpaid and tipped on occasion. But I try to keep it tightly in check.

[MutantChicken]

Based on reading this thread, I went to the hot tocs located on this street.

Nguyen Phi Khanh, Tan Dinh, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

I tried 2 different ones and both times they asked me for 400 k. I started with 200 k and went up to 300 k but they wouldn't budge from 400 k so I said why not. The girls barely used their tongue or mouth at all, it's more like a mediocre hand job. They try to jerk you off as fast as possible so they can take the money and leave. One wouldn't even let me touch her boobs, like barely and seemed like she wanted to get it over as quickly as possible. I never had that experience before where they felt repulsed. Anyways, I don't think I'll be mongering in Vietnam. Language barrier is too big of a gap and the girls don't seem into it (at least when it comes to me). I get more satisfaction and enjoyment from watching porn and using my own hand then paying them $17 for a quickie.

This what happens when foreigners ruin a place IE paying 400-500 k when locals were paying 300 k, now NPK have charged locals 400 k also so it would be impossible for foreigners to pay less than that and given that foreigners are too clueless why should they bother to make a effort as you not likely to be a repeat customer unless you lived, and just as I wouldn't care whether you decided to monger in Vietnam or not so would be the attitude of the girls. IE no loss if you came or not (pun intended).

[Aganex01]

Based on reading this thread, I went to the hot tocs located on this street.

Nguyen Phi Khanh, Tan Dinh, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

I tried 2 different ones and both times they asked me for 400 k. I started with 200 k and went up to 300 k but they wouldn't budge from 400 k so I said why not. The girls barely used their tongue or mouth at all, it's more like a mediocre hand job. They try to jerk you off as fast as possible so they can take the money and leave. One wouldn't even let me touch her boobs, like barely and seemed like she wanted to get it over as quickly as possible. I never had that experience before where they felt repulsed. Anyways, I don't think I'll be mongering in Vietnam. Language barrier is too big of a gap and the girls don't seem into it (at least when it comes to me). I get more satisfaction and enjoyment from watching porn and using my own hand then paying them $17 for a quickie.

[DoppelH]

A couple of times that I've been to a hot toc the lady would be giving me a blow job and while the mouth was wet and moist, there was no spit or lubrication on my cock while their hand jerked me off underneath their mouth, which made my cock sore and in one instance started bleeding.

I gestured that I need spit or some sort of lubrication and I let them know I did not want them using their hand by moving it away from my cock.

One lady acted like I was nuts for not wanting her to jerk me off without lube.

Oh and when I get cleaned before the deed the lady will use a baby wipe and put it in the sink and rinse it out in the sink and wipe me with it.

What is up with that?

Is the wet wipe not wet enough that it needs water from the sink added to it?

And after I cum the same thing. I cum on the wet wipe and she rinses it out and wants to wipe me with it again.

I bring my own wet wipes anyway to avoid being cleaned with a wet wipe I just came on. Not something I want to end a session with.

[MutantChicken]

Well I was getting service for those 20 minutes but I didn't finish because half the time I was being asked for boom boom. She gives a good blow job. She's a little on the chubby side (but not Khanh Linh chubby) and is still curvy and one of two I saw there that had any breasts. The others had washboard like chests. It was maybe 11-11:30 PM and all the other hot tocs had closed.

I went back today (Saturday) around 4:30 PM and only saw 2 hot tocs open heading west before you get to the train tracks. First one has young looking ladies and the second one had quite a bit older ladies. I paid 300 K. Service was OK. She looked like the girl that was over at Benny's Hot Toc in my other report. Might have been the same one. Nice breasts but could have been a little bigger. Nice body though.

Guys like you are great for the girls and their business so accepting of low hanging fruit and so willing to pay top dollar for me ill pay 500 k to fuck this girl if I'm going to pay for a MILF I will pay 100-150 k for CIM.

[DoppelH]

Don't understand this kind of behaviour. Why guys pay for nothing? What are you afraid of seriously? 500 k for a hot toc is already too much so she s trying for more why not? Then you say no and you leave period. Why pay for no service? If you go to a restaurant and you don't eat you pay too?

Well I was getting service for those 20 minutes but I didn't finish because half the time I was being asked for boom boom. She gives a good blow job. She's a little on the chubby side (but not Khanh Linh chubby) and is still curvy and one of two I saw there that had any breasts. The others had washboard like chests. It was maybe 11-11:30 PM and all the other hot tocs had closed.

I went back today (Saturday) around 4:30 PM and only saw 2 hot tocs open heading west before you get to the train tracks. First one has young looking ladies and the second one had quite a bit older ladies. I paid 300 K. Service was OK. She looked like the girl that was over at Benny's Hot Toc in my other report. Might have been the same one. Nice breasts but could have been a little bigger. Nice body though.

[Morton219]

Can you take a photo of the outside. It is so hard for anyone to find this mystical place. You are virtually the only person in 3 years to have said they have been to a caf om.

I agree with you, there are many cafe on ql50, I still have't found the cafe om he said.

[Sidtip]

Of course you can try a caphe om as foreigner, if you like coffee and blowjobs.

I wrote everything you must know before. As a newbie you can go to ql50. Drive south and after and Van Linh on the left side you will see the caphe oms.

Can you take a photo of the outside. It is so hard for anyone to find this mystical place. You are virtually the only person in 3 years to have said they have been to a café om.

[Morton219]

Do you know the intersection Nguyen Thi Thap / Huynh Than Phat?

Drive Huynh Than Phat north an you will see some hundreds meters away two Hot Tocs on the left side. You will see a guy in the front, who is watching the motorbikes. I try the second Hot Toc. The guy is very nice and speak a little bit English. When you leave he ask you if the blowjob was good and said hope to see you again. Beowjob is only 200.

This place is very close to the hotel I am staying at. I'm going to check it soon. Thanks, Fred.

[Muzungufotsy]

Went in to A Hot Toc on Hoang Sa and paid 500 K previously for a half hour. I went again and saw the same girl and after 20 minutes wanted 1 million dong for full service. Since she she wasn't letting me touch anything I declined and paid the 500 k to avoid any trouble and left.

Don't understand this kind of behaviour. Why guys pay for nothing? What are you afraid of seriously? 500 k for a hot toc is already too much so she s trying for more why not? Then you say no and you leave period. Why pay for no service? If you go to a restaurant and you don't eat you pay too?

[DoppelH]

Went in to A Hot Toc on Hoang Sa and paid 500 K previously for a half hour. I went again and saw the same girl and after 20 minutes wanted 1 million dong for full service. Since she she wasn't letting me touch anything I declined and paid the 500 k to avoid any trouble and left.

[FredFun]

Hi FredFun,

Thanks for the information. I went to this area last night and I had a hard time finding any Hot Toc's. I'm also new to the city and probably got lost. Would you be willing to give a me a street number that's in the area. Or even better want to get a beer?

Matthew.

Do you know the intersection Nguyen Thi Thap / Huynh Than Phat?

Drive Huynh Than Phat north an you will see some hundreds meters away two Hot Tocs on the left side. You will see a guy in the front, who is watching the motorbikes. I try the second Hot Toc. The guy is very nice and speak a little bit English. When you leave he ask you if the blowjob was good and said hope to see you again. Beöowjob is only 200.

[FredFun]

I just rode like 30 mins slowly across a huge stretch of ql50 but I didn't find anything. Its like 2 pm now. Am I here at the wrong time? I'm looking for caphe oms that does BJ. Got to try BJ with coffee. Anyone in Saigon that wants to go around looking for value for money fun please hmu. Looking for buddies to explore around. I can speak basic Vietnamese; enough to get around.

Later, later, it must be dark outside. Look for coffee shops with potted plants outside and colorful lights.

[Sidtip]

The cafe oms at Pham The Hien is only hugging.

If you like blowjobs like me you can try a cafe om at ql50.

Still seems no one has actually found one of these. I really think its a myth. Who really have been to a café om where there are girls that will sit with you and fondle you in public?

[Morton219]

The cafe oms at Pham The Hien is only hugging.

If you like blowjobs like me you can try a cafe om at ql50.

What is the name of the cafe om that you mentioned at ql50? It's hard for me to find a cafe om that does more than HJ.