Locations of BJ Cafes, Hot Toc's, Blow 'and' Go's.

[Muzungufotsy]

Paid my first visit here earlier.

Walked in and girls lying about everywhere, barbers' chairs etc. And several in kitchen area through back. Couple of solid gals there but the one who open door to me was called what sounded like Jam or Giam. Cute as a button, spinner category I'd say. Quite petite and very slim with maybe A cups. Quite funny and playful. The perfunctory massage over she rolled down her top to reveal perfect little nipples. She let me slide my hand between her legs but had panties on. Damn. After I exploded and she cleaned up she lay on my chest for several divine minutes stroking my chest. Very soothing. 500 k plus nice tip for 'Jam'. Wish I could've STD her, it would have been a dream. Plus got bike back to hotel from guy who'd just been dropped.

Did you read post 754 [Deleted by Admin]? Even without tip you already overpaid pffff. No wonder prices increase like crazy for P4P here.

[Penguin69]

Paid my first visit here earlier.

Walked in and girls lying about everywhere, barbers' chairs etc. And several in kitchen area through back. Couple of solid gals there but the one who open door to me was called what sounded like Jam or Giam. Cute as a button, spinner category I'd say. Quite petite and very slim with maybe A cups. Quite funny and playful. The perfunctory massage over she rolled down her top to reveal perfect little nipples. She let me slide my hand between her legs but had panties on. Damn. After I exploded and she cleaned up she lay on my chest for several divine minutes stroking my chest. Very soothing. 500 k plus nice tip for 'Jam'. Wish I could've STD her, it would have been a dream. Plus got bike back to hotel from guy who'd just been dropped.

[Penguin69]

They don't blow you in the places where you can get a real haircut. Unless perhaps the barber is gay.

If you want a full package you could try LE Vy or one of the other clip joints where for a stiff price painted ladies will flirt with you, do your nails, maybe give you a shampoo after a haircut etc. Pay with exact money. Do not tip. Instead, take a cab over to NPK and spend the money on getting blown by an honest tart (400 k).

Sounds like the solution. Maybe try no 84 as read mixed about Bennys, but for a newbie like me maybe the difference is debatable. The haircut can wait.

[Laloosh12]

Just to clarify.

NPK is Nguyen Phi Khanh street in D1?

[Meo Den]

Am in D1 but willing to travel a little if worth it.

Preferably with bit of English. Maybe get a haircut too. Thoughts?

They don't blow you in the places where you can get a real haircut. Unless perhaps the barber is gay.

If you want a full package you could try LE Vy or one of the other clip joints where for a stiff price painted ladies will flirt with you, do your nails, maybe give you a shampoo after a haircut etc. Pay with exact money. Do not tip. Instead, take a cab over to NPK and spend the money on getting blown by an honest tart (400 k).

[FritsVanegter]

Hello,

Yesterday I return to number 140 again and found a new girl (never seen her before and there are not many girls working there, I think about 6).

She had a shy but nice smile. Her name Nhang, no English skills. After the session I wanted to know her age. But when do sign language about age they just can say money?

She did her best to please me. Rubbing her pussy on my body parts, making me suck her nice firm tits, and got naked within a minute! She offered me to lick her pussy using funny sign language. Of course Vietnamese pussy is usually surrounded by some Bush and can have some odour. But it was nice.

It could well have been her first day because I got the idea she got some instructions from mamasan.

She wouldn't take my load in her mouth but in the end it was more than nice. All the girls in that shop let me finish in their mouth if I could finish at all because of age and hot weather.

Sincere greetings from Frits.

[Penguin69]

Am in D1 but willing to travel a little if worth it.

Preferably with bit of English. Maybe get a haircut too. Thoughts?

[AmericanThief]

Went to NPK because my reg was back home in her province. I won't mention the exact shop but I took the young fresh faced girl with cute bangs and baby fat in her cheeks. She was playing a MOBA game on her phone and asked me to wait a minute. She died and then asked me to wait again. She died again and her team lost a tower, and I thought it was time to surrender as they were going to lose anyway. She asked me to wait a third time and I got up and went back downstairs and took another girl and she was worried I might be angry because of the girl and took care of me.

Went back the next day and didn't see the teen. A rush of Viet men came in and made the place uncomfortable. They were interviewing girls, and I heard them repeat the name of the girl I was waiting for. This sucks. One girl asked me to go up and she looked fine. She didn't know how to do a proper BJ. Her teeth injured me and I have a scab now. I'm really tired of the poor service in HCM. These Vietnamese girls want money for nothing.

[FritsVanegter]

Hello,

I arrived in HCMC a few days ago and visited npk street. Normally I would go nr. 84 because I have been there before. This time I entered the road on the west side where there is the highland coffee shop. I saw a man who used to work at nr 84 now sitting in front of nr 140. Maybe he got fired or expanded his business? Anyway I entered his shop and so far all the ladies were good. There are no stunners but if you behave properly they will all be nice.

So far there is one lady named TAM who surely try to give a bit extra to make me chm. First class rimming and although her English is poor she is nice company.

Did try Kim too at nr. 84 but for me it was like very ordinary.

It will always depend on if there is some kind of mutual understanding.

Sincere greetings, Frits.

[Roaming Viking]

I went back to NPH 84 and got Kim again. Third time this week. The other day I did sneak off for a 15 minute BJ that took almost two hours with traffic. My company was beginning to wonder. I was late for a business meeting. This time they only charged me 200!! So I tipped her extra. Because she took everything off and straddled my face in the middle of everything. She has a very firm body and A cups. Not much of a Bush but really long lips. Hope you like. The other shops on this street are quiet dismal.

Take care.

[Meo Den]

Ok so I'm going to focus this post specifically on NPK although I'll be posting more in the future..............

What was the name / address of the shop? (Tip: always get a business card on a first visit).

Did you converse in Vietnamese? No communication issues? Just let the girls wash you in the cubicles. Don't expect a massage.

IMO girls do not like customers who are obviously drunk, unless they plan to rob them. If you have drunk a bit it's better to revisit a shop / girl who already knows you.

I wouldn't take a girl who was sent to me in a room or who grabbed me as I walked in the door. If you choose from a line up you get a chance to evaluate each girl's reaction and make an educated guess as to their attitude. Simply request a line up, and if they won't provide one, walk.

You probably should have gone down and demanded a replacement performer from the mama-san. Your friend was right to tell you to pay the 200 k, but no Vietnamese customer would have given them money for nothing but disrespect.

In general, it seems to me that foreigners have a tougher time punting in Vietnam than in most other countries in the region. It's a commercial encounter. It's natural for them to try to get as much as they can for as little as they can give. When they encounter any weakness or lack of experience it's like pushing at an open door for them. Compare the interactions with tourists at Ben Thanh market. And consider how few tourists want to return to Vietnam.

You are quite right about not being rushed. And walk. Practice walking away from transactions. Walk even when you see an attractive target. Make a polite excuse. You can always go back.

Being 30 (although uglier than your brother) you can find a gem outwith the P4P arena, but it will take time. Younger Vietnamese guys have the same problem. Hence the market for the hot tocs.

Also, not to cross threads, but I'd be interested in your experiences at 795 Ka Thy, taking a ST room and hanging around the elevator.

[CoderDoug]

Ok so I'm going to focus this post specifically on NPK although I'll be posting more in the future.

Long time philanderer, brand new to mongering. Few weeks ago I met a business guy who insisted I go with him to get a massage that had a happy ending. He paid because I said I'm not at a point where I have to directly pay for relations, plus I don't want to spend 2 million for something I can do myself (Minh Tham Hotel & Massage 206 Ba Thang Hai). Anyway I experienced it and decided that this is something I could do in the future cause it's more time / cost effective. Going out on dates with girls I've met through life (not working girls) ends up costing between 1 million to 2 million (dinner at a nice place and going out for drinks) with no guarantee I get what I want at the end. Anyway so I figured 400 k for a BBBJ wasn't so a bad idea considering I wouldn't have to talk to her again (I've got several girls that put out but want me to make commitments.).

Anyway, I went out again with the business guy to Lush on LTT but had to go home early because I had a super important meeting this morning. I decided to say fuck it and checkout NPK cause it's a long the way home and I've been reading this forum like an addict for the past 3 weeks (since I decided P4 P wasn't as big an evil as I use to think after the experience at Minh Tham).

Horrible Experience or stroke of bad luck?

It's about 11:00 pm and I was pretty drunk and I walk in and directly ask the mama if this place included the "use of mouth" to which she said yes. No girls in sight but she promises the girl would be pretty. I ask her how much and she says 400 k so I agreed cause it just didn't seem like a ridiculous price compared to what the business guy paid for me to get a massage & HJ (1.75 million).

She leads me up to the room and tells me to get comfortable and I go into the bathroom to wash off my junk. I know girls appreciate that so I want to make them happy so they give me better service. The girl comes in and asks me to undress to my undies which I do. Shittiest massage I've ever had. She was slapping my back. After about 5-10 minutes she asks me to turn around and then starts giving me a HJ while licking and kissing my chest. I let her do this for a few minutes cause I want he to get comfortable with me while we talk and I feel her up. She's still in her clothes but let's me roam. Anyway after a few moments I tell her I want her to use her mouth. She refuses and then I say this is what I want. She tells me I smell which I think get annoyed with because I know I don't (I directly washed myself while waiting for her so that this wouldn't be an issue after all.) After I go back and forth with her over whether or not she's going to do it I get the impression she's serious so immediately dress and walk down. The mamasan downstairs wants to know what's going on and the girl tells her that she did her "job" and that I got my "service. " Obviously I disagree adamantly and refuse to pay. She says I still have to pay 200 k for the room. After we spend about 5-10 minutes arguing about what's what I decide to call my friend and ask him what he thinks I should do. He says just pay it and be on your way (I didn't want to initially out of principle but at this point was annoyed and just wanted to go home.) I ended up paying 200 k for a 5-10 minute massage with a little roaming and not the service I directly asked for. I know 200 k isn't the end of the world but it definitely sucks being cheated when you directly told them what you wanted and didn't get it (remember I told her I was only interested in the BBJ upon walking in.).

Take away for me is that you should ask them how much for the room, how much for the tip. I thought it was 100 k for the room and 300 k tip but she told me it's 200 k for the room regardless of whether or not I got what I wanted. This really annoyed me. Also I'd advise negotiating whether or not you can switch girls if she isn't up to your liking. Furthermore, I'd agree with one many previous people have said about not being rushed. I made this mistake too cause I was drunk and just wanted a quick service before going home and getting some sleep. Your power here is that they know there's dozens of other places within a short distance. Make sure you pull the mama / papasan aside before hand and tell them what you want or what you expect if it goes south (like with me).

Now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't have immediately dressed but instead have asked her to get someone else? What do you experienced guys think about what happened to me?

[Maphrao]

Hello guys,

Intro.

Thank you for all your comments. Very helpful to get the first aid from specialists. So long time I didn't log into ISG, I m living in Thailand since few years where I get a nice gal. This is only my second visit in Vietnam, I'm checking out HCMC scene but not into spending millions vdn as I m here only for 2 weeks then back to Thai. It's funny I feel I m very familiar of this business and in the same time a real newbie haha.

Cheap HJ.

I want to share with you my reliable costs from October 2017, as I was a bit horny I just wanted to check around Bui Vien some massage parlors in the small alleys, there are dozens and dozens. All work the same, just search and find the girl you like, slim / young, to find one like this you won't need more than 30 mn in my opinion. Prices in those cheap shops are. For one hour of oil full body massage. From 150 k to 200 k (a bit less than hotel without the fucking random). Two remarks: first on the top of menus they write first with 1/2 hour, so be careful if you like one hour, second last night it was late around midnight a little thing of 40 kg bargain me hard 100 k for one hour so I said "you convinced me" haha. Then it's the same as everywhere, face down then up. I just wanted an HJ, my tip, flat tip I hope was 200 k, grabbing the gals everywhere, make her moaning, so guys you can use that amount. I don't think a westerner can give much less (starting with 1 m, then 700, then 500 and so on blabla.). I went few times to one girl and we got some good "feelings" she even offered me some food, so I m pretty sure 200 k was OK with her, so summarize guys for a quickly in D1 (if you are not into hotels style or wilder districts) 100 200+200, right now it's more 300 all included after few times. Of course I will check it out NPK, I counted 6 hot docs you can't miss it, papasans will greet you loud + 3 more in Võ Thị Sáyou.

Long time relations.

Viet gals are very sweet, not talking about hungry working girls. These days I'm starting to date a Viet girl I met in a coffee shop, I think such things are really possible here too but need some time for that and it's impossible if you get only few days. To compare with Thai GF relationships and see the way they handle their western BF.

Question.

Following up a old post, it was said Thiêand Hồng hotel ("Arc en Ciel") on Tảand Đà street had a steamed room and massage, is this finish or still open? It look like it's over, someone can confirm it?

[Krum Lov]

Agreed. Never ceases to amaze me who either overpay, tip unnecessarily, or both. All over Asia. The whole scene has been ruined over the last 20 years because of these jerks. The amount some people pay, they may as well just stay in their own country and use hookers there.

At a popular shop on NPK last week. I saw a Vietnamese guy pay with a 500 k and get 200 k change.

As I understand it the local price is still 300 k, but all the shops I looked at hold out for 400 k now from foreigners (I've seen the cashiers hand the girls half I. E 200 k).

Yet guys continue to 'tip on top' of whatever they're charged.

300 k is still accepted at random BJ hot tocs I checked around town. No doubt Eddie was right, and locals there still pay 200 k at them, although I see them sometimes passing the girl and additional 20 k or 50 k as they leave.

But NPK has been spoiled. And let an Old Hand tell you that as the price goes up so the level of service will deteriorate.

[Sedenya]

I am in Danang.

In Nguyen tat tranh exactly.

I find a hoc toc with some girl pretty the listing announce massage.

But it not look like they have a backroom.

I ask to be shaved I nice girl shave me with finger of fay very nice and kind but not a word of English.

The experience was perfect.

I pay 10 K but I not dare ask for something else.

Someone can tell me if all the hoc toc with massage girl offer special service or not?