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  1. #923

    Zitty Magazine Report on ERW Party

    I attended Erw on Wednesday, June 14. I actually have a full report handwritten, which I will post later. On that day Zitty magazine, a local news and event guide magazine for Berlin, like Timeout in London, had a photographer and what appeared to me to be a reporter, Thom and his girlfriend Sophie. They were in one of the 3 action rooms and were interviewing Cleo. A diminutive very sexy brunette, and loads of photos were being taken of her under lights. She was clearly loving the attention.

    Most of the lads were playing with another lady in the room next door. I wandered in to find out what was happening. I was told that they were from Zitty and we doing a piece on the gangbang party scene in advance of the new law. Actually there was a strong suggestion that this would be the last few days of such events from the journalist (which turned out to be incorrect, thankfully). We were told the photographer would take pix of the action with Cleo and if we wanted to participate no face pictures were going to be shown. Several of us played with Cleo who did OWO at that time but said no CIM. It was before the law change. She also welcomed giving breast relief in between her enhanced boobs. She clearly enjoys her job and is very good at it.

    Sophie participated when Cleo was finished. There were several rules Rubbers for everything and no fingering and sanitize your hands, as is the ERW tradition there were hand sanitisers in each room. Sophie reminded me of a younger version of my friend, Emily, back in Ireland. Mustapha, well he does like to try the new girls, banged her with her on top. She was quite mechanical but looked very sexy, slim beautiful nipples and wearing only her seer black holdups. She finished with lying on a towel on the ground and requesting that the lads come on her tits, Tom told her to say please cum on my tits. I tried but was unable to finish, a few other lads succeeded.

    Much to my surprise she came back after other sessions and this time was much more into it and I got a covered BJ as she was fucking other lads and I actually came into a condom as she teased my balls. She definitely now was clearly enjoying herself. She was genuinely moaning in multiple orgasms.

    Amazingly the lady photographer was taking pictures from all sorts of angles and literally seeing a gangbang in progress didn't phase her in the least. She was slim with long blonde curly hair and glasses and was bangable had she wished to play for sure as well!

    BTW it was very hot and there was a large fan in the room and widows were open, Cleo certainly worked up a sweat.

    I have located the Zitty article which contains some interesting info on the new law and ERW. The brunette in the pictures is Cleo for sure as sophie is fair haired / blonde. I reckon might be the main bloke in picture 3!

    The link is - https://www.zitty.de/der-letzte-gangbang/.

    To get the machine translated version in English, just right click on the article (not Pix), when it is open ans scroll down on the sub menu that then appears to translate into English.

  2. #922
    Quote Originally Posted by Leifeide  [View Original Post]
    So sorry to hear that you was disappointed. I was there in the beginning of July and had a fantastic afternoon at the EW. You know, the thing with the girls is that they are not all day there, all of them. The girls announce to the management that they intend to come, but for various reasons they don't always show up when agreed. So I guess you need to be a little patient if you look for a particular girl.

    On the day I was there, the super incredible beautiful, sensual and genuinely dirty woman Joanna was there. She is one of a kind and was surrounded by guys for more than an hour. She alone was worth the money spent. Then a little later another great girl showed up, Mareen Deluxe. Like Joanna Mareen is also a fantastic woman with dedication and passion.

    So I guess you were unlucky. There would 100% for sure have been more ladies present later on.
    More than that, you need to adjust your expectations when going to ERW.

    Wrong expectation: To have 5-10 girls in a gangbang at once throughout the day and evening. All girls look like porn actors.

    Right expectation: To have 1-2 girls in a gangbang every half hour, with 15-minute breaks in between (sometimes longer) and large crowds of men around them. Some girls are fancy, others are not.

    When you have the right expectations from ERW + patience, you'll avoid disappointment.

  3. #921

    Great experience!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeretre  [View Original Post]
    Visit in there 18th July Tuesday GangBang events. They promised 10-12 girls, but there was only one girl at a time, even not two girls same time. So guys, don't believe what they promised. I stay in there 3,5 hours 14:30-18:00 and enjoy 3 times. Girls. So so.
    So sorry to hear that you was disappointed. I was there in the beginning of July and had a fantastic afternoon at the EW. You know, the thing with the girls is that they are not all day there, all of them. The girls announce to the management that they intend to come, but for various reasons they don't always show up when agreed. So I guess you need to be a little patient if you look for a particular girl.

    On the day I was there, the super incredible beautiful, sensual and genuinely dirty woman Joanna was there. She is one of a kind and was surrounded by guys for more than an hour. She alone was worth the money spent. Then a little later another great girl showed up, Mareen Deluxe. Like Joanna Mareen is also a fantastic woman with dedication and passion.

    So I guess you were unlucky. There would 100% for sure have been more ladies present later on.

  4. #920

    Disappointed

    Visit in there 18th July Tuesday GangBang events. They promised 10-12 girls, but there was only one girl at a time, even not two girls same time. So guys, don't believe what they promised. I stay in there 3,5 hours 14:30-18:00 and enjoy 3 times. Girls. So so.

  5. #919
    Quote Originally Posted by Pegasus076  [View Original Post]
    Fellows, any news or changes after the new law entered into force on July 1st? Who does have any info please share.
    I haven't had a direct experience after July 1, but mark my expectation: the new law is not a big deal, and will not make a big change. I've had covered blowjobs before and they were 'okay'. Didn't ruin the experience. And I think the ladies will be talented enough to know how to get you hard and make you feel good even with a covered BJ.

  6. #918

    Recorded Parties

    I was in a recorded party here a month ago: do you know the website / link where we can purchase these videos? I sent an email to management a week ago, but they never responded. The contact link on the website is also broken.

  7. #917
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  8. #916

    New law

    Fellows, any news or changes after the new law entered into force on July 1st? Who does have any info please share.

  9. #915
    I think you clearly misunderstood my comment. Nowhere did I say that ERW is expensive. I'm fully okay paying 100 euros for the experience. All I said was that the money which ERW makes is sufficient for it to cover the operational costs and the costs of paying attractive girls. Proof of this comes from the never-ending complaints of congestion and men being all over the place. 2,000 euros is the minimum which this place makes per day, and again, I wouldn't even mind if ERW raises the price. All what I care about is to find more ladies and less pressure on a single lady. I'm sure Mustafa can find a way to make this happen, and if it includes paying more girls to come, I am sure he has the money to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco030  [View Original Post]
    Like I mentioned in earlier posts in the spirit of transparency, I became very close with a few girls working there and they gave me insight into the payment system. The reason the quality (perceived) in girls has gone down over the years, is because of customers with your mindset, who actually force Mustapha to recruit cheaper / less attractive girls, because their hourly rates were lower. All girls do not earn the same. There are some that earn up to 150 an hour, so it makes no diff for them if they do the job in EW or independently as escorts. Girls that provide DP etc earn almost 200 an hour. And now calculate a girl like that working for maybe 3-4 hours in EW, her ALONE would take out 600-800 of the daily intake. And remember, there are usually more than 1 girl working. Even if just ONE girl is a top earner, its a significant amount that she gets at the end, and all the remaining profits have to be split with the other girls. It is not too complicated to calculate, but this line of reasoning, trying to push the price down down down, is what became Mustapha downfall. In my honest and humble opinion, not everybody should partake in these events if they can't afford to, but reducing your quality just to become a catch-all-GB party is the dumbest business idea. EW is going to go out on a more mellow note now, than assuming the parties had ended 2 years ago when the girls were really smoking hot. People would have still been talking about that party today, but now when this eventually dies down, its going to me of a "meh. I saw it coming" kind of reaction.

  10. #914
    Quote Originally Posted by VonderJohn  [View Original Post]
    I hope you also realize how much money ERW makes. I estimate 20 men per day in total, which is around $2,000 Euros at least.

    I think this is more than sufficient to cover the daily costs, *girls included.*
    Like I mentioned in earlier posts in the spirit of transparency, I became very close with a few girls working there and they gave me insight into the payment system. The reason the quality (perceived) in girls has gone down over the years, is because of customers with your mindset, who actually force Mustapha to recruit cheaper / less attractive girls, because their hourly rates were lower. All girls do not earn the same. There are some that earn up to 150€ an hour, so it makes no diff for them if they do the job in EW or independently as escorts. Girls that provide DP etc earn almost 200 an hour. And now calculate a girl like that working for maybe 3-4 hours in EW, her ALONE would take out 600-800€ of the daily intake. And remember, there are usually more than 1 girl working. Even if just ONE girl is a top earner, its a significant amount that she gets at the end, and all the remaining profits have to be split with the other girls. It is not too complicated to calculate, but this line of reasoning, trying to push the price down down down, is what became Mustapha downfall. In my honest and humble opinion, not everybody should partake in these events if they can't afford to, but reducing your quality just to become a catch-all-GB party is the dumbest business idea. EW is going to go out on a more mellow note now, than assuming the parties had ended 2 years ago when the girls were really smoking hot. People would have still been talking about that party today, but now when this eventually dies down, its going to me of a "meh. I saw it coming" kind of reaction.

  11. #913
    I hope you also realize how much money ERW makes. I estimate 20 men per day in total, which is around $2,000 Euros at least.

    I think this is more than sufficient to cover the daily costs, girls included.

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco030  [View Original Post]
    You guys do realize these girls are all paid by the hour for their work, and depending on her appeal, she gets more.

    So let us calculate: you say you wish more girls would participate, but none of you have voiced how you propose reimbursing them for their time? Where exactly would the money be taken out of.

    To pay these "more girls", you are all clamoring for? From the budget assigned to the Buffet and refreshments? Okay, then you would complain about the lack of food.

    So then let us say we take their wages from the money we otherwise would pay the cleaning ladies, then you guys would complain about it being too dirty.

    So then let us say we raise the price of entry to the EW, then you guys would be complaining about how the good old times were better, and AP has cheaper parties.

    Seriously, what do you want? I had to log in to ask this, I am so confused. This is no attack on any one person, I really want to know what your approach, business wise, would be to resolve this situation.

    Cheers.

  12. #912

    It's about maintaining a standard already set

    Franco030,

    No one is saying compromise with price to food / cleaning and all that for more girls. It's about maintaining a standard once set. ERW has been amazing for so many years no the trot but suddenly such a drastic fall? No one is saying get a crazy amount of girls, but the girls that are there should get in on the act together as opposed to just one girl in one room at a time for plentiful men. Earlier with the same number of women it was more fun because they all took part together. It makes for a bigger gangbang / orgy. Making it more pleasurable and fun CZ you can touch and play with more and fuck more women with each session. Switch girls, go 2 on 1, etc. None of that is possible now, which kinda blows CZ it's now it's just like fucking one girl in a 1-on-1 sesh while other men watch and wait their turn. It's a bit of a turn off. 10 guys in a circle waiting to fuck the same girl; not as much fun as random fucking with a bunch of people on one bed.

    So again, it's not about raising expectations or have them reduce the quality of some other aspects of the ERW experience, but once ERW set a standard of awesomeness it's a bit disheartening to see those expectations come down. AP is on my list now. Never been but motivated now more than ever cz I believe they have multiple women working in tandem simultaneously?

  13. #911
    You guys do realize these girls are all paid by the hour for their work, and depending on her appeal, she gets more.

    So let us calculate: you say you wish more girls would participate, but none of you have voiced how you propose reimbursing them for their time? Where exactly would the money be taken out of.

    To pay these "more girls", you are all clamoring for? From the budget assigned to the Buffet and refreshments? Okay, then you would complain about the lack of food.

    So then let us say we take their wages from the money we otherwise would pay the cleaning ladies, then you guys would complain about it being too dirty.

    So then let us say we raise the price of entry to the EW, then you guys would be complaining about how the good old times were better, and AP has cheaper parties.

    Seriously, what do you want? I had to log in to ask this, I am so confused. This is no attack on any one person, I really want to know what your approach, business wise, would be to resolve this situation.

    Cheers.

    Quote Originally Posted by VonderJohn  [View Original Post]
    I disagree with those who are pessimistic for the post- July 1 situation. Don't be pessimistic: the gangbang and mongering industry will find a way to provide you with pleasure, not because they love you or anything, but simply because this is what everyone demands and this is the only way any business in that sector would succeed: clients would leave a place that doesn't have variety or a convenient way of paying or value for the price being paid. The thing is that it will surely need time for the industry to adjust. Don't expect places like Insomnia or ERW to adapt directly on July 2. Give them some time and they'll find a creative formula that would keep their customers coming. If they don't do so, their customers won't come and they'll run out of business.

    A for the gentleman who is complaining that ERW has less girls than before. True, and I'd actually say there are more MEN and more congestion than before. This has always been a problem which ERW can do little to solve, other than bringing in more girls (but then this would bring in more men). The bottom line is one: spend a whole day in ERW and try to get the best out of every session. You need to try and find your way throughout the day but this will need a whole day to maximize your chances. Not 1-2 hours or 5 hours. Give it your maximum in order to limit the disappointments. Adjust your expectations: when you have 7 men over 1 girl, do not expect to have her all by yourself for several minutes. You can barely have the chance to enter her for a few seconds every few minutes. So also have modest expectations to avoid further disappointment.

  14. #910
    Quote Originally Posted by RoamingViking  [View Original Post]
    Greetings! I will be back in town again next week and plan on visiting EW. What's the latest? Are BBBJs still available. ? What about the number of girls. I have a feeling the good old days are long gone and that the new law will put an edn not only to BBBJs but also gangbangs. I hope someone can enlighten me on what to expect. M backup plan includes Airport Girls and Insomnia, but again, recent reports suggest that the everything has changed there too.

    Thanks for any info. Feel free to PM me.
    I disagree with those who are pessimistic for the post- July 1 situation. Don't be pessimistic: the gangbang and mongering industry will find a way to provide you with pleasure, not because they love you or anything, but simply because this is what everyone demands and this is the only way any business in that sector would succeed: clients would leave a place that doesn't have variety or a convenient way of paying or value for the price being paid. The thing is that it will surely need time for the industry to adjust. Don't expect places like Insomnia or ERW to adapt directly on July 2. Give them some time and they'll find a creative formula that would keep their customers coming. If they don't do so, their customers won't come and they'll run out of business.

    A for the gentleman who is complaining that ERW has less girls than before. True, and I'd actually say there are more MEN and more congestion than before. This has always been a problem which ERW can do little to solve, other than bringing in more girls (but then this would bring in more men). The bottom line is one: spend a whole day in ERW and try to get the best out of every session. You need to try and find your way throughout the day but this will need a whole day to maximize your chances. Not 1-2 hours or 5 hours. Give it your maximum in order to limit the disappointments. Adjust your expectations: when you have 7 men over 1 girl, do not expect to have her all by yourself for several minutes. You can barely have the chance to enter her for a few seconds every few minutes. So also have modest expectations to avoid further disappointment.

  15. #909

    Next week

    Greetings! I will be back in town again next week and plan on visiting EW. What's the latest? Are BBBJs still available. ? What about the number of girls. I have a feeling the good old days are long gone and that the new law will put an edn not only to BBBJs but also gangbangs. I hope someone can enlighten me on what to expect. M backup plan includes Airport Girls and Insomnia, but again, recent reports suggest that the everything has changed there too.

    Thanks for any info. Feel free to PM me.

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