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  1. #713
    Hello again everyone,

    I do not think there is fish around. We're just a forum of people with different points of view. And I am sure you agree that ERW does not need positive reviews or promotion. The place is always crowded and in high demand.

    It is just that some have managed to have a good experience, other have not. It depends on how long you're ready to wait, how patient you are, what time do you come, Mustafa's mood, the girls' mood. Etc. Many variables. Yet I can see that the common and indisputable negative comment is Mustafa's attitude when he shoves himself in the middle of the crowd. You have the right to take part in the scene but to be rude to customers is unacceptable. Is it that difficult to be polite and have some courtsey like we all do?

    Anyway, I do not give a big fuss to ERW because I enjoy other sex scenes in Berlin, whether it was Insomnia, gangbang parties, swingers. Etc. Even Annie Porsche is okay (as long as you remember that you're there to fuck, not to enjoy a beauty contest).

    So for those who aren't enjoying ERW it is not a problem. The sex scene in Berlin is varied and wide with many choices, many of which are better than ERW. A gangbang party in Insomnia doesn't have any of Mustafa and ERW's problems.

    Diversify your sex experience in Berlin and only try ERW with the lowest expectations, or don't try it at all. Berlin would still satisfy your mighty penis in other ways.

  2. #712

    Amusing Event

    Much discussion on Mustafa and this this club recently. I was there a few weeks ago and observed the following which I thought was amusing. A swinger lady was in the club who eventually came into play room and sat on couch at end of bed. None of girls were in room and soon some of the more adventurous punters had her soon primed up. She was very horny and vocal and soon gathered quite a crowd. Mustafa appeared at the door holding a flute of Champagne as it was one of girls birthday. Within a minute he bounded across the bed with his flute (of champagne of course) in his hand in a similar manner to a dog chasing a rabbit This was only route to lady as people blocked door side. He then elbowed punters to give him the next position for a BJ. Well he is only human like the rest of us but it was funny to watch. Re Mustafa's interaction with girls. I know a horse trainer who is very successful and he insists to give his horses a good daily gallop to judge their form. No disrespect to girls as I have more respect for horses than many humans but there may be a sound management idea in these actions. At least Mustafa is not a pussy blocker and only participates for a short while.

    I have met some fantastic German girls who genuienly seem to enjoy work and joke and laugh with the men. I have also got the dreaded tap on the shoulder even though I was only in action for a few minutes. However I think it is a great club and I hope it continues for many years.

    On another matter does anyone know where a wonderful girl called Beci who used to work there has move to.

  3. #711
    Quote Originally Posted by Zvucnik010  [View Original Post]
    Those that visited EW on 1, 3, 5, and 6 July would have had the chance to bump into me. I am tall, dark hair, a bit overweight, and as I don't speak Geman I communicated with few people in English.

    No offense but I just wanted to clear the air in regard to the fish smell story and me being a "friend".

    I will do another post on my experience in EW, and separately on Insomnia.
    Fair enough. Will be interested in hearing about your Insomnia and Vienna experiences in due course.

    Not wishing to cast aspersions but it has been known for proprietors to plant reports and such practices undermine forums such as this.

  4. #710

    My experience in EW

    First night I arrived at EW was quite late in the evening (at about 21:00 due to my flight). It wasn't that difficult to find the place thanks to google maps and the descriptions in the forum. Indeed, before ring the bell my heart was beating like crazy.

    Rang the bell, the door opened, went up the stairs and was greeted by a gentleman asking me whether I have been there before. I told him that this is my first time, paid the money, was given a tour of premises, handed my valuables, undressed, showered, and I jumped straight into action.

    Both rooms were quite busy, I guess there were about 10-15 guys in each room being entertained by a lady on each bed. Obviously it took some time before I got some action, but I must say that the crowd was quite considerate towards each other and were not occupying the ladies for too long. During my two hours of stay I had sex with all the ladies present that evening, but had an orgasm only once.

    In the course of the week I visited the place three more times. There were 8-10 ladies each day, though mostly the same ones. I don't remember their names as only with few I chatted in the smoking area, and I did not cross-check them with the website. Though in general the ladies were all polite, but only some spoke English.

    I can recall only Anna's name, a MILF-type lady, who gave me the best BJ I had so far which ended with CIM. Absolutely amazing skills. I understood from a regular visitor that she also does anal, but I didn't have the chance to experience it with her. This was during the day where they have a massage, which in my opinion is a bit of waste of oxygen. The masseuse had a bit of an attitude towards the guys asking to be that close to her.

    During weekdays it wasn't so crowded, with the exception of the evenings. For the first-timers like me, my suggestion would be to go earlier in the day so you experience less performance pressure, as less guys are waiting in line.

    Apart from two guys, the visitors or punters in the rooms were quite considerate of one-another and give way.

    The overall experience for me has been positive, and it is indeed good value for money having in mind that for 100 euros you can have sex with 8-10 ladies, as well as eat and drink.

    The negatives that I would point out are the air conditioning (sometimes it was too hot in the kitchen and the rooms) and the two pussy blockers that were present in one of the days. I think Mustafa knows them and should deal with them promptly.

    As a non-German speaking foreigner I had no problems at all what so ever. Same goes for Insomnia for which I will write a post later.

    Cheers

  5. #709

    No fisherman here

    Quote Originally Posted by Leifeide  [View Original Post]
    You know I am certainly not a beginner DV, and I have no agenda here. I just report that the club have gone downhill lately. And to me Mustafa seems to be balancing on the edge. He behaved very rude the last time I was there and on several occasions the line up did not match reality.

    It really does't bother me that he wants a piece of the action. Can't blame him for that.

    But on several occasions he have asked the wrong guys to move away from the girls. I was for example patiently waiting for my turn, in the bed when he commanded me to move! Of course this behavior creates anger.

    He needs to clear his head and be more relaxed and polite. Then we'll be back!
    It is a bit unfair to jump to conclusions and think that I am a "friend" of Mustafa and that I am here to defend him. I simply have no reason to do so, as it is not like I received any privileged treatment from him nor received any discount.

    As I said in my post, I am new to the GB scene, and as far as comparison goes I can only compare it with few occasions in Vienna. By far Berlin is better. Furthermore, as this was my first and last trip to EW and I have no point of reference on how it has been before and if the place is going downhill, nor whether Mustafa's behavior has gotten worse. Those that visited the place through the years can be better judges.

    Were pussy blockers present? Yes. Did Mustafa asked some guys to move aside? Yes. Was he being rude to visitors? No, I didn't witness that.

    I decided to travel to Berlin (BTW I live about 2000 km away from the German capital) solely based on the reviews you guys have posted here. Through ISG I found out that these places actually exist. I visited EW (4 times) and Insomnia (2 times); couldn't find Annie, and did not go to Swinger Oaze and Avarus as I couldn't find any reviews. When will I travel to Berlin? Maybe in a year or two.

    Those that visited EW on 1, 3, 5, and 6 July would have had the chance to bump into me. I am tall, dark hair, a bit overweight, and as I don't speak German I communicated with few people in English.

    No offense but I just wanted to clear the air in regard to the fish smell story and me being a "friend".

    I will do another post on my experience in EW, and separately on Insomnia.

  6. #708

    Fish?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkVader  [View Original Post]
    Very curious how after a series of negative reports there is suddenly a spate of first time posters springing up to commend the place. Anyone else smell fish?
    You know I am certainly not a beginner DV, and I have no agenda here. I just report that the club have gone downhill lately. And to me Mustafa seems to be balancing on the edge. He behaved very rude the last time I was there and on several occasions the line up did not match reality.

    It really does't bother me that he wants a piece of the action. Can't blame him for that.

    But on several occasions he have asked the wrong guys to move away from the girls. I was for example patiently waiting for my turn, in the bed when he commanded me to move! Of course this behavior creates anger.

    He needs to clear his head and be more relaxed and polite. Then we'll be back!

  7. #707
    Quote Originally Posted by CardBoy  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    It is really completely annoying how Mustafa behaves nowadays. Even though I wouldn't mind going there, however there are barely the girls there he usually advertises on the web. So this is a big cheating in first instance.
    I'm so glad I didn't make the effort to visit this place whilst I was in Dusseldorf.

    Reading the recent negative reviews, it does indeed seem as if this place has gone downhill.

    Shocked to read that this Mustafa chap even partakes himself, sometimes in preference of his customers.

    This place was on my bucket list, but until I see some positive (and believable) feedback, this place is now on my black list.

    Will stick to gangbang clubs in NRW and Phoenix in london (still one of the best) - it may be more expensive, but a) worth every penny and b) actually pretty good value when you think about it. No international travel costs and you get what you pay for. Pay for 2 hours and you will get 2 hours non stop action, unlike some of these NRW clubs which are for 6 hours, but once you factor in the time spent sitting around while girls take a break, the actual amount of time is only about 3-4 hours at most.

    Jack.

  8. #706

    Good days gone

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianG  [View Original Post]
    Yes, so much. Mustafa thinking this forum is full of his enemy and competitor, so his new friends coming in with some good review.
    Hello,

    It is really completely annoying how Mustafa behaves nowadays. Even though I wouldn't mind going there, however there are barely the girls there he usually advertises on the web. So this is a big cheating in first instance.

  9. #705
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkVader  [View Original Post]
    Anyone else smell fish?
    Yes, so much. Mustafa thinking this forum is full of his enemy and competitor, so his new friends coming in with some good review.

  10. #704

    Fishy

    Very curious how after a series of negative reports there is suddenly a spate of first time posters springing up to commend the place. Anyone else smell fish?

  11. #703

    Mustafa's OK

    Hi guys,

    I've been going to EW every summer for the last 4 years. I'd read reports recently about Mustafa being a Hitler and the place not being what it used to be. I was there about a month ago and had a fantastic time as always. Great sex, good food, shower, sauna and all at a bargain price. I even had a nice chilled out conversation with Mustafa about life whilst sitting in the sauna. His English had improved too. During the session Mustafa sometimes joined in and even went out of his way to accommodate me with the girls.

    I had great sex with about 8 different girls during my stay.

    Consequently I do not understand where some of these comments have come from. Maybe its better to be more relaxed and communicate with Mustafa like I did. He's a nice guy running one of the best gang bang clubs in Europe.

    I'll definitely be back there next year if not sooner.

  12. #702
    Quote Originally Posted by Zvucnik010  [View Original Post]
    Hello gents,

    It is a fact that in few occasions there were two guys who were occupying the girls every time they were present in the rooms and they were not into fair play. Mustafa and the ladies seem to know them. They were a bit rough with the ladies. I could see that majority of the visitors found them irritating and were moving away. I don't get intimidated that easy. These were two slim, late 20's, and porn actor looking guys.

    For the sake of the others, I think Mustafa should enforce some rules on these guys, or refuse them entry.
    And the mystery of the pussy blockers continues: why are they still being allowed to do this and why isn't Mustafa doing anything to stop them? Perhaps they are bribing him with some extra money or something, but I see no reason why Mustafa isn't putting an end to this which has been on for months.

    I would like to thank you for the report, which is actually your first post, and I am glad that our contributions in this thread were helpful to you. This is the point of it all.

    Will you be providing a report on Insomnia too? Keep us posted.

  13. #701
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Mustafa scares me when he enters the playing field. Are we allowed to touch the girl he is doing? Am I even allowed to watch? I'm afraid he will kick me out if I do anything wrong.

    Talking to him, I find him a nice guy. I just don't quite understand the rules of engagement when he as the owner enters the fray.

    Have had some good times there though.
    Hello gents,

    I have been reading your posts for a number of months but I haven't posted so far. It is actually do to your insights I made a trip to Berlin last month. It was absolutely great. Spent a total of four days in EW and two days in Insomnia (wanted to try Annie Porche but couldn't find it). I am new to all this and I am sure that majority of you have been in the GB scene for many years.

    For me Insomnia and EW are two incomparable venues so I'm not going to talk about the minuses and pluses of each place.

    As for EW, 11 hours of sex, shower, and food, over and over again, is indeed a good value for money.

    I don't speak a word of German, but in my second day at EW I introduced myself to Mustafa and told him that I learned about his place from ISG. In his limited English he told asked me how do I like his place and were the reviews accurate.

    Now back to the topic, during my stay there were 3-4 times when Mustafa joined in. This was mainly when two girls were in bed and he would occupy the mouth of one of them. Two of these times I fucked the girls from behind. Just treated the situation as he would be one of the visitors. The third time I went soft, and funny enough, the chick put Mustafa aside and gave me a BJ. There was no interference from Mustafa whatsoever.

    Though, I twice witnessed Mustafa asking few guys to move a side. Now I don't know if these were local regulars that he knew or folks like me on a field trip.

    It is a fact that in few occasions there were two guys who were occupying the girls every time they were present in the rooms and they were not into fair play. Mustafa and the ladies seem to know them. They were a bit rough with the ladies. I could see that majority of the visitors found them irritating and were moving away. I don't get intimidated that easy. These were two slim, late 20's, and porn actor looking guys.

    For the sake of the others, I think Mustafa should enforce some rules on these guys, or refuse them entry.

  14. #700

    Double penetration & anal

    Hello everyone,

    I think Sophie does anal and double penetration (sandwich). According to EW website she should be there tomorrow (10 August Monday).

    I read about some planning problems about schedule. So do you know will she be there tomorrow? And is there anyone interested in double penetration?

    Thanks

  15. #699
    Quote Originally Posted by VonderJohn  [View Original Post]

    2) Complaining about it here in the forum won't change much. It is best to talk about to to Mustafa face to face. Direct communication can get your ideas across much easier, and allows for an immediate response from the other party. Try it, may not work the first time, but I am sure it is more effective than complaining here.

    5) Finally, on an unrelated note, Mustafa needs to learn a course in English grammar and writing. The amount of English mistakes in his post is immense LOL.
    You have som valid points. Wouldn't say it's a shitty club, but it definitely has room for improvement.

    2. Not that easy to make a complaint face to face over some of the issues that's been presented here. How would you frase:"stop jumping the que, and act as if you own the place, even if you technically do. " I'm not sure if I could do that without burn some bridges. Don't want to mess up my chances for coming back.

    5. Got to love that google translate. Many of us could use a grammar course. I know I is.

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