Legal Discussion

[Sammon]

No, Levdog is not breaking any laws. [CodeWord908] involves forcing someone to do something against their will and as he described his actions, the girls he's been with have all been willing volunteers and of legal age. Get your facts right before you start accusing someone of a crime.

As far as why guys like younger girls? Why do you like older women? It's quite obviously simply a matter of personal preference.

Liking younger girls is good. I would not want fly half way around the world to fuck anybody over 25. It is my preference.

But to make it a business using teenage girls to procure you other teenage girls amounts to trouble if caught by the Law. Word gets around quickly in Cebu. All it needs is some irate father or relative complaining to the Police.

It will be hard to keep it under radar if his teenage " Pimps " are actively searching for willing or money induced coersion to recruit girls.

Meeting girls in dating sites and if she brings one or many of her friends will not draw lots of attention.

A foreigner throwing money corrupting young girls draws attention in any country.

As everybody knows when the police catches up with him what is allowed under the law or what his defence is will not hold up with Phi system. Better to stop now than yell for his legal rights from behind the bars in jail.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Is breaking the law, the law dealing with [CodeWord908], he is training girls to be pimps, to take payments for sex services, and they not get paid if no sex, that law is pretty black and white. You can only pay a girl for her time, try and tell the cops you paid a girl and she did not sex you, or that your paying girls to find you girls to have sex, but if U-turn them down you do not pay for her time and effort and that is the way you train the teenage girls here.

As for the guys seeking only 18yo, why just select a girl based on her age, and why the barely legal age.

There is no ethics in p4p but there are laws and guys here are boasting about breaking the laws. I enjoy p4p but some times I pay and get no play.

No, Levdog is not breaking any laws. [CodeWord908] involves forcing someone to do something against their will and as he described his actions, the girls he's been with have all been willing volunteers and of legal age. Get your facts right before you start accusing someone of a crime.

As far as why guys like younger girls? Why do you like older women? It's quite obviously simply a matter of personal preference.

[Frenzy3]

Is breaking the law, the law dealing with [CodeWord908], he is training girls to be pimps, to take payments for sex services, and they not get paid if no sex, that law is pretty black and white. You can only pay a girl for her time, try and tell the cops you paid a girl and she did not sex you, or that your paying girls to find you girls to have sex, but if you turn them down you do not pay for her time and effort and that is the way you train the teenage girls here.

As for the guys seeking only 18yo, why just select a girl based on her age, and why the barely legal age.

There is no ethics in p4p but there are laws and guys here are boasting about breaking the laws. I enjoy p4p but some times I pay and get no play.

[FurryFriend]

Why you and other guys like to fuck girls is beyond me, I actually enjoy sex and most things related and usually a woman has to be 30 before she realizes a vagina is good for other things. Yes the young ones can be beautiful but can they fuck no. They are the reason for the term starfish.

There is nothing wrong with wanting starfish sex with girls under 30. You have your preferences. I have mine. It's like you criticizing my preference for vanilla when you prefer chocolate. I've noticed it's usually the expats who do this. And that is why I've found that tourists are usually better sources of information than the expats.

I'm all for ethical mongering. And here are my ethical standards: As long as a girl is not coerced by force, intimidation or blackmail and she's over 18 years old, anything mutually agreeable is ethical.

[Pinaypounder]

I think that you represent the worst of what is tolerated here on the board. You seek out innocent girls and I use the term girls intentionally and fuck them. You actively seek out girls who are not really interested and manipulate them in the Westerner world that I tink is a crime. Yes I am judging you.

You have 2 "Teenage" Pimps, wow, look at you, the entrepreneur.

Why you and other guys like to fuck girls is beyond me, I actually enjoy sex and most things related and usually a woman has to be 30 before she realizes a vagina is good for other things. Yes the young ones can be beautiful but can they fuck no. They are the reason for the term starfish.

I can honestly say I have never ever tricked anyone into having sex with me, never manipulated them or any woman on any continent. No for me has ALWAYS been NO. Yes I have paid but I am not paying a girl I pay highly trained professionals.

I like MILFs because even Milfs can only fuck me for 1 day then they need a break. I am not polluting Milfs. They know what a pussy is for and typically need sex worse than us.

I have lived in Cebu, I am confident that things may go poorly for you.

See the light and stop fucking up children.

PP

[LevDog]

Gentlemen, you need to relax. The girls I meet are 18 and above. Teenage girls means 18 and 19 years old. I have been coming to Cebu since 1981. I understand the culture here and agree that Cebu has a small town mentality.

[Sammon]

thanks for the interesting post. your approach is new to me.

could you please explain how you came by the 2 teenage pimps, how they agreed to be trained, and finally, how much do you pay them? thanks.

i do not think this guy means " pimp " in the pimp sense. it is just that once you meet girls and give them enough incentive by way of money and gifts they will bring their friends or relatives to make more money.

caution in this are there could be many **** girls which is hard to know. another thing is if any of girl's relatives or neighbours find out what this guy is doing it will be a big problem.

in philippines everybody watches everybody especially in cebu. do not believe these girls keep their mouth shut. sooner or later words get around that there is a foreigner seducing all teenage girls by money and.

gifts (in his own words ).

having been to cebu many times it is not a good idea to do what this guy is doing. keeping couple of contacts and having few girls coming over should be ok. but to get as many girls as possible using teenage.

girls will definitely get him in trouble. cebu is a small place compared to manila.

it is not a country where everybody minds their own business. philippine people are somewhat tolerant when they see foreigners with young girls although they comment and sometimes curse. my gf tells him what they are saying since i do not speak tagalog or visayan. and those comments are outright offensive and threatening. imagine one these school girls this guy is having sex with tells her folks about it when questioned?

he should really watch out and keep his activities under the radar.

[Punter 127]

i think the word "teenage pimp "

i really do not know why a guy would boast that they are teenage and that he trained them to break the law.

levdog change the way you see life, pi people talk before you know it you could be up on trafficking charges. if i was you i would stick to the known way things are done in this town, all it takes is a jealous person to find out what your doing and the police will meet you. having them go up to strangers also opens up a can of worms as the girl can end up in jail where she will tell them about you.

you will get to think about all the money you saved when you are in jail waiting your next meal and as the local gang use you as their. trafficking is one law they take serious here and the guys in jail will not like what you been doing to pinay girls. i notice that people are not paying "fines" to avoid jail for such crimes.

i'm with you on this one frenzy3.

it appears to me that levdog's 'another day in paradise' post is primarly about **** girls.

'i have trained 2 teenage girls to be my full time pimps.' [snip]

'well i met the taxi at my hotel and out came two attractive girls in their catholic school uniforms. i have to say i was immediately turned on. they were best friends and i was lucky that they decided to miss school for a chance to be with their first foreigner and earn valuable tuition money.' [snip]

'she was 19 years old, the oldest girl of the day' [snip]

please tell me i'm wrong.

[Frenzy3]

I'm trying to figure out why Levdog's post made me feel depressed.

I think the word "teenage pimp "

I really do not know why a guy would boast that they are teenage and that he trained them to break the law.

Levdog change the way you see life, PI people talk before you know it you could be up on trafficking charges. If I was you I would stick to the known way things are done in this town, all it takes is a jealous person to find out what your doing and the police will meet you. Having them go up to strangers also opens up a can of worms as the girl can end up in jail where she will tell them about you.

You will get to think about all the money you saved when you are in jail waiting your next meal and as the local gang use you as their *****. Trafficking is one law they take serious here and the guys in jail will not like what you been doing to pinay girls. I notice that people are not paying "fines" to avoid jail for such crimes.

[LevDog]

To answer your question JPF, I think "trained" might be a bit misleading. Maybe I should have used the word "developed "

Or "evolved". My first pimp was a girl I had sex with twice. She is very bright and has some outstanding qualities which make her an outstanding pimp. She quickly figured out that she can make some decent money by bringing in her friends. After that she started going to different areas in the city and meeting total strangers who she was able to convince to meet this foreigner.

My second full time pimp was a gay who was helping my first pimp procure girls for me. Apparently she was not happy with the money my first pimp was giving her, so she came to me directly. I told her the deal and low and behold she started bringing me some quality girls also. I started paying them 400 pesos for each girl that I accepted, but I have now bumped it up to 500 p. If I don't like the girl, they get nothing. By the way they would have accepted less but I appreciated the job they were doing. I don't think it is easy to get a text from me, saying I want a girl at such a time. They have to find the right girl, and deliver her on time. Remember you are dealing with girls who have never earned money in this way. When the girls come to me I keep the pimps outside of my room and I do an extensive interview with them. Of course when I find a girl who is special I now have her cell phone number and I can contact her directly. Like I said in my report. If a girl who I like does not have a cell phone I will buy them one. So far I have given out 5 phones to girls. Also, when a girl comes to me for the second time, it is not unusual for her to bring her friend, or sister.

Levdog

[JPF]

I have trained 2 teenage girls to be my full time pimps. I treat them well, give them plenty of business and they do the leg work.

Levdog

Thanks for the interesting post. Your approach is new to me.

Could you please explain how you came by the 2 teenage pimps, how they agreed to be trained, and finally, how much do you pay them? Thanks.

[LevDog]

I have been in the Philippines since November 10, after a two week stay in Manila I have been here in Cebu for the past two months. I have to say that I looked forward to my 6/7 month vacation for many years and it has lived up to my expectations. I couldn't be happier with the time I am having. This is my first report since my Dec. 5 report when I described one particularly fun and interesting day.

I have always have enjoyed the Southern Philippines. In my opinion the quality and beauty of the girls are unmatched in the Visayas. There are so many beautiful girls here and I am taking full advantage of the situation. I have sex with 2/3 girls on average. The girls I have met here for the most part have not had experiences with foreigners before. They are not to be found on dating sites, they do not hang out at discos, or the malls.

I have trained 2 teenage girls to be my full time pimps. I treat them well, give them plenty of business and they do the leg work. Their job is to find my type of girl, teenage girl who is slim, pretty face and needs money. If a girl has given birth she is eliminated. I have had sex with approximately 40 different girls since I have been in Cebu. Only a handful of them had been with a foreigner before. I have developed a rating scale since it is hard to remember every encounter. I have 5 categories, and use a scale of 1 being the lowest and 10 the highest. The categories are beauty of the face, body, enjoyment of the sexual encounter, personality of the girl and age. If the girl is 18 years old she gets a 10, 19 a 9 and so forth.

As I said earlier I have 2 full time pimps who I have trained, I also have 5 or 6 other people who bring me girls on occasion. On one memorable day I had 5 girls in a 24 hour period. At 10 pm a girl I met the previous day who earned a rating of 48, which is the highest grade I had given out came back to spend a pleasant 3 hour stay. She had just lost her virginity a month before meeting me and she was a natural. Besides being drop dead gorgeous, she enjoyed sex and responded well when I went down on her. Unfortunately she could not stay the night but I had her company until 1:00 a. M. When I meet a girl who I have given a high mark and she does not own a cell phone, I present them with a brand new cell phone, which I can buy for 1000 pesos. Besides given a girl load for her phone, one of the more appreciative presents is a brand new cell phone. Of course the main reason I do this is so that I can stay in contact with them.

At 8 a. M. One of my regulars came to my room. She earned a 44 on a previous visit and stayed with me until 10 a. M. Leaving after two pleasant rounds. One of my full time pimps told me she had a girl for me and I told her to come at 2 pm She sometimes brings me two girls since she knows I am quite particular and fussy. In this way she has a better chance of getting paid. Well I met the taxi at my hotel and out came two attractive girls in their Catholic school uniforms. I have to say I was immediately turned on. They were best friends and I was lucky that they decided to miss school for a chance to be with their first foreigner and earn valuable tuition money. One thing I learned many years ago in the Philippines is that taking two girls at a time does not work if they are not friends but when they are friends it can be a great experience for all. This was the latter. They had a great time checking out their facebook pages on my computer as I was banging each of them. After one round each I told them to get dressed and took them out to lunch. After lunch I stripped each of them for another round and bid farewell at 6 pm

My 5th and last girl came to my place at 9 pm brought to be by my other full time pimp. She was 19 years old, the oldest girl of the day and lacked enthusiasm. Of course by this time I was a bit spoiled so after one rather ordinary round she left. All in all another day in paradise.

P. S- I enjoy the sex with these girls but I also enjoy spending time with them. I urge all visitors to this land to spend a few minutes to visit them where they live. Chances you will be shocked and probably slightly scared. Majority of them live in a one room "house" which can have many people sleeping together on the floor. I think this will give you a better perspective of how needy they are.

Levdog