General Reports

[Pip Jaeger]

Spot on, but I don't know why people mention the Silver Dollar. Was really scanky in past unless it changed.

Most of the girlie bars in Cebu are "scanky", LOL.

Sounds to me like you're referring to the old location (not that the new is that much less scanky). When's the last time you were in the Silver Dollar? The small advantage SD has over some of the other bars is that it open early in the afternoon (between noon and 1 pm) and it's now fairly close to Ayala. So older gents, like me, who need to reitre early to get their rest can find some afternoon entertainment.

Compared to the old SD I would have to say the talent has improved, it's cleaner (not by much) and the food is better (again not by much).

[Wander Luster]

QUOTE=Hutzesq My questions for the Board are: 1,2,3,4 QUOTE.

I don't recommend taking girl from AC to Cebu. Set up a DIA girl (or several) instead.

1. Cebu is more expensive than AC but less than Makati. For sightseeing go to Magellan's Cross, guitar factory, south beach resorts.

2. You can meet girls in Ayala Mall. Stay in hotel near there. There is also Silver Dollar Bar with takeout nearby.

3. Some girls have kids so LT may be a challenge but YMMV.

4. I haven't been to Boracay but hear it's a tourist trap.

Hope this helps. Other members will likely have more info or tell you to RTFF. RK, for example, will surely find fault with my post as it seems to be his new mission in life.

Spot on, but I don't know why people mention the Silver Dollar. Was really scanky in past unless it changed. Just do a "tour" of all bars clustered near the mango bars. P / you at malls is not so easy unless you have good game. Online sites take some time but work well. People overlook there are a lot of traditional girls all over Cebu. Be a gentleman, but if you must, say something like "I don't like traditional ideas that sex must be. " when messaging. 1/2 of those doing online dating could want top wait for 4 dates to sleep with you. But, there are TONS that will do the wild on 1st or 2nd if you know how to spot them. Comments about pricing in locations mentioned is def correct, as is info about Boracay.

[Wicked Roger]

I forgot to add:

Cars everywhere are expensive to own and maintain. Actually might be cheaper there to maintain then western countries due to cheaper labor, but replacement parts availability/pricing can be an issue.

If you eat and shop at malls then yes, pricey. Shop like a local in markets as well as food stores not in a mall and you can not only eat well for less, but get better quality food without all the preservatives and hormones. Personally I think both pork and chicken taste much better there then in the USA; unless you want to pay a premium for items like free range chicken. Same applies to restos, international food chains, like McDo's, KFC, etc are pricey no matter where you are. Eat at a local resto and you can eat well for a reasonable price; and more often then not get a better meal too. Regardless of price, service still sucks at most places though, LOL.

One tip though for shopping at some markets / vendors, like Colon, where prices are not clearly marked. Give your girl a list and let her shop for the stuff to avoid the "poreigner tax".

Cars are generally expensive to buy as there is a huge tax. A car I can buy in Cebu for example can get me far better car in the west etc. . Insurance for a mid range SUV is around PHP25-30000 a year fully comprehensive (you will need that as motorbikes are all over the place in Cebu and slalom in and out all the time. Matter of time before the car is hit or you hit them.

Upkeep? If the dealer has a package it is OK but local garages are cheaper but the be careful about warranties etc.

Food. All imported stuff is expensive, local milk is OK but if you have dietary issues then is harder. But that is the same for other parts of the world where I have stayed. Fish is very cheap, fresh salmon and blue marlin much cheaper than say Australia or UK but fresh vegetables can be sometimes very not fresh!

Local restos are OK but if you have a car you can drive around find new local places that are cheap. Some expat run places are IMHO are also cheap (say PHP 300 a meal). Beer is cheap if like booze.

So much depends on your tastes. Westie for example eats at many local food places or street vendors and is very happy (see Manila / Makati thread for his FR).

[Pip Jaeger]

I forgot to add:

No 2 Problem: Life by western standards is not cheap. SNIP You want a car, you like western food, not only vegetables and rice. All pricey.

Cars everywhere are expensive to own and maintain. Actually might be cheaper there to maintain then western countries due to cheaper labor, but replacement parts availability/pricing can be an issue.

If you eat and shop at malls then yes, pricey. Shop like a local in markets as well as food stores not in a mall and you can not only eat well for less, but get better quality food without all the preservatives and hormones. Personally I think both pork and chicken taste much better there then in the USA; unless you want to pay a premium for items like free range chicken. Same applies to restos, international food chains, like McDo's, KFC, etc are pricey no matter where you are. Eat at a local resto and you can eat well for a reasonable price; and more often then not get a better meal too. Regardless of price, service still sucks at most places though, LOL.

One tip though for shopping at some markets / vendors, like Colon, where prices are not clearly marked. Give your girl a list and let her shop for the stuff to avoid the "poreigner tax".

[Wicked Roger]

I could be wrong, but it sounds like you're basing this on prices for rentals that are posted online and not actual experience looking for a place to live there. Yes, sites like AirNib, Craigslist, etc do show inflated prices that target foreigners. Several them I seen advertised on those sites were listed in the respective lobby's blackboard for considerably less. I had a tough time finding a fully furnished place for less then a year, but I did come across many very nice condos, townhouses, multi-family dwellings and single family homes that were more then reasonably priced (in the P5,000 to 15,000 range). Even more so once you get out of the city a little ways.

About a year ago a friend in Makati had stroke. He received excellent care at a very reasonable cost and is doing quite well now (at WR. You know whom I'm talking about; do you recall the name of the hospital? Another friend there is battling cancer (and winning too); he lives in Dumaguete and travels to Cebu for his treatments at Cebu Doctors Hosp. His care is very good and also reasonably priced. Oth, out in provinces the medical care is archaic. And I too would probably seek care back in the USA for serious non- emergency care. Phil Health Care, a discount / fixed cost plan can be had P2,400 per year. For Blue Cross (Phils, not USA) I was quoted P9,600 per month for an 80/20 type plan (same as what I already have in the USA, but for which I pay over 600 USD per month for). The main difference was finding providers who will accept it (not an issue in bigger cities) and sometimes, from what I've heard, getting them to pre-approve certain treatments. I can't speak about getting insurance ofr those over 70 or with pre-existing conditions as I'm in my 50's and in reasonably good health (at least now, LOL).

For rentals Pip J comments are spot on but for $1000 you can get a nice one. The issue as Pip J says is can I find a place for a few months. If not try the monthly condos that are well reported on this thread eg Strawberry.

The hospital in Manila was Makati General and basically saved his life but there are IMHO likely to be more bad than good hospitals in this country.

In Cebu go to Chong Hua (and at times Cebu Doctors). The former is US accredited (was last time of asking) and has also helped a fried of Pip and myself when she nearly had a foot amputated. Treatment was first class and she did lose the foot and still looks good in lingerie LOL. Chong Ha also treated another ISGer very efficiently when her suddenly developed an illness -I recommended he went there immediately and a few days later was cured.

As for the plan to go home, yes a good idea and Pip and I have discussed this at times. A my age and condition I have made plans while retaining a place I Cebu. Also go to Bangkok as a few fly there not to USA.

Much depends on your health care insurance which can be very expensive (if a US citizen the figures Pip quotes are very cheap, for me it is a lot more). But which places accept it? Chong Hua would am sure, others you would need to ask.

As for quality in the provinces, this is very hit and miss. For example a lady in San Carlos City (a few hours drive from Cebu) wanted a sponsor for an IV training course in Cebu for 3 days. I asked why? Her reply in that "we have no one in the hospital who can administer an IV" was somewhat surprising. As you go further out of the major cities you will need an escape plan if you get very ill for sure.

[Pip Jaeger]

You scratched the surface only. Don't be mislead by a few weeks holidays there.

I have to disagree with most of what you've written. FYI, I just spent 9 months living there and have taken several extended visits over the past few years. Although I'm no expert I wonder where you got your info from and how much actual time you've spent visiting / living there?

No 1 Problem once you there: Once you have a GF, you will be under 24 hours surveillance. No chance to bang any other girls without creating drama. As tourist you can change hotels or leave after a while. As resident you are stuck!

That depends on you and how you set things up your girl (s). Be honest and tell them up front that you will see other girls. She'll either accept it or walk. You'd be surprised how many girls will agree to an open relationship. Many of them will even intro you their friends, cousins, etc. Oth, if you do promise to "stick to one" as many of them say, then you'd better do it. But even then there are many ST hotels where you can go to if absolutely needed.

No 2 Problem: Life by western standards is not cheap. You want a nice appartement, not a shithole. You pay 1000 USD-month at least. You want a car, you like western food, not only vegetables and rice. All pricey.

I could be wrong, but it sounds like you're basing this on prices for rentals that are posted online and not actual experience looking for a place to live there. Yes, sites like AirNib, Craigslist, etc do show inflated prices that target foreigners. Several them I seen advertised on those sites were listed in the respective lobby's blackboard for considerably less. I had a tough time finding a fully furnished place for less then a year, but I did come across many very nice condos, townhouses, multi-family dwellings and single family homes that were more then reasonably priced (in the P5,000 to 15,000 range). Even more so once you get out of the city a little ways.

No 3 Problem: Once you serious sick your only option is to get on a plane fly to Singapore or back home. Medical treatment and equipment is on a level 20 to 30 years back. And prices are hilarious which you as foreigner has to pay. Insurance. Over 70. No chance.

We can debate this issue for years. Plenty of bad hospitals and doctors in 1st world countries too. However, I will agree with you to a point. If you live near a major city then fairly good medical care can be had. And many of the attending physicians were trained and have experience practicing medicine in the USA, Europe, etc. About a year ago a friend in Makati had stroke. He received excellent care at a very reasonable cost and is doing quite well now (at WR. You know whom I'm talking about; do you recall the name of the hospital? Another friend there is battling cancer (and winning too); he lives in Dumaguete and travels to Cebu for his treatments at Cebu Doctors Hosp. His care is very good and also reasonably priced. Oth, out in provinces the medical care is archaic. And I too would probably seek care back in the USA for serious non- emergency care. Phil Health Care, a discount / fixed cost plan can be had P2,400 per year. For Blue Cross (Phils, not USA) I was quoted P9,600 per month for an 80/20 type plan (same as what I already have in the USA, but for which I pay over 600 USD per month for). The main difference was finding providers who will accept it (not an issue in bigger cities) and sometimes, from what I've heard, getting them to pre-approve certain treatments. I can't speak about getting insurance ofr those over 70 or with pre-existing conditions as I'm in my 50's and in reasonably good health (at least now, LOL).

No 4 Problem: you are as foreigner an intruder. Whoever want to give you problems, will win over you. Even guys low under the radar do fall in a trap one day.

True, to a point. Foreigners rarely win in a court battle, but they do, and are open to get extorted / scammed more readily then a local (but they do to, you just don't see it splattered across the front pages of the newspapers). But this happens rarely. Yes, we do wear a target on out backs and we should keep it as small as possible, but it is a target none the less. Oth, I, along with thousands of other expats who've lived there for decades, would strongly disagree that it's inevitable you will "fall into a trap one day".

But at the end have an escape plan back home.

This at least is one thing we can fully agree on! And further to that, although a local bank account is needed, don't put all your money / life's savings into it; transfer what you need for a few months at time from you home country (I'm presuming here that it's a first world country).

[Pcpc1688]

Last night in Cebu and stopped by about 1 am. Went to J Ave and outside as well. Hit on by 4-5 outside all meh.

Inside the J, the choices were not superb so I went home alone alas no puki but was well entertained for the 4 days. Thanks to WR for his FLs.

PC out.

[Pcpc1688]

She came over and it was a BBBJ as she wasnt feeling good. Maybe next time as she was cute but like most Pinay girls full of past drama. Man I don't think I can't deal with these girls longer than 2 hours at a time LOL.

PC out.

Kudos to WR not RK. My mistake for the Cebu suggestions.

PC out.

[Kaywhy]

Nice big apartment in the hillside of Cebu. Great view but still sticky. We spend one night at their house with additional party with loads of drinking and I found the brother very nice. He'd joined his mother from US to Cebu but was planning to go back Frisco this x mas as he had GF and baby over there. To my "GF" I told this is beeing to sticky lets go resort some. She followed my lead and thought that was a good idea. What surpised me was that the mother insisted on paying to treat us a nice time together in our lying relationship. We docked the next day at Mvenpick Mactan resort and it was quite a nice place. My "GF" borrowed one of the households cars and drove me around Cebu while giving me some heads up here and there. Everything nice in Cebu I found to be, according to her, either japaneese build or korean companies. The new SM mall opening 2017 looked smashing and I learned that the great fighter over here had bought 10 dekars of land close to this comming mall. We drove through Cebus only tunell (japaneese made) without me beeing very impressed (I am from Norway so tunells we know how to build). We drove like 3 hours one way to some "spectacular" waterfalls and back. I drank beer she was driving. The waterfalls, HM, again I am from Norway so if I say this fall was around 30-40 mts I told here in my country we do have some waterfalls of like 600 to 655 mts. But the place was beautiful with loads of screaming koreans out under the waterfalls while they had the normal picture bonanza.

Skogis, I've stayed there and the food is awful. The saving grace is that there is a wonderful, and I mean wonderful Italian place 50 m from the hotel which imports most of its ingredients from Italy and so the pastas and pizzas are top notch. The expat owner is typically sitting outside and is a chatty character if you invite him to your table. I spent one week at the hotel and ate at the Italian place 5 times and twice at the Spanish place further down the road. I think the Shang is a better option and the buffet is of much higher quality. By the way, the wifi at the hotel is atrocious so it feels like you are at the Remington next to NAIA, but at least at the Remington you know there is no in room wifi. But it almost felt that way because the bandwidth the hotel has for the whole hotel must the same as my at home internet.

[Wicked Roger]

And here comes the strange thing and I believe this is due to a combo of beeing drained from 9 days of heavy mongering to fall into something that could be a relationship lookalike. Even so I could not perform. She tried and tried to get to sex me. Many times each day (even in thecar on our way to the falls, it was a big Landcruiser so no problem there, spacewice). So then the famous words comes out from her lips "now you have to fuck me", "I am dying here and I am dead horny". Wow I wish I could perform but my willy just would not cooperate

Maybe the hole GF thing got my willy scared. It was atleast of some mental state. Never experienced this before and hope I never will again.

That obviously freightens the shit out of me and is very different from my normal 1 to 2 hrs sessions I normaly do girls under. Holy mother of God. This was a strange experience. Never again.

Skoggy.

You make a good observation about a sudden change to BF from out and out monger plus the previous shagging.

Next time please make sure I am I Cebu as I would have stepped up to the plate and been a gallant and good friend and sexed her while you could not. Naturally you could watch (if you wanted) to make sure I am as boring as the guy you met in Outback last week LOL.

I feel for you Skoggy and would feel for her more (literally in her case LOL) but we should really coordinate our diaries so that when this happens again (smiley here) I am there to fill the breach.

My only concern is after a few days of WR sausage and not a Scandinavian one, she may like mine more and I would hate her say "but Skoggy, WR's tool box is way much bigger and better" LOL.

Happy travels and see you when out paths next cross.

[Pcpc1688]

She came over and it was a BBBJ as she wasnt feeling good. Maybe next time as she was cute but like most Pinay girls full of past drama. Man I don't think I can't deal with these girls longer than 2 hours at a time LOL.

PC out.

[Pcpc1688]

After a mongerspree of 9 days in Makati it was time to cool off with my designated cathay pacific cabin crew girl. She arrived in Naia last Thursday, we spend one day at Ascott rabbitwice and we

She is gorgeous, tall and pale skinned (just the way I like them). We have been meeting on and off wuite a few times. Sometimes in London, sometimes in Paris, HKG, LAX and ofcourse in phils. She has as far as I know been in relationship and cheated like I do. So in all a balanced "relationship".

When we met this time she was acting quite weird so I asked her what was wrong. She showed me some msg activity me and her processed earlier and her husband had found out. He hated me and had now broke up with this girl. "Wow, that's sticky" me thinks and I am afraid she is now will try delude my ass into a relationship. She tells me her mother has moved back to Cebu (from US) and she has to go visit her. We debate this while fucking and since she is a sexy spinner I can not help myself to say the strange words "ok I can come with you to Cebu, visit your mother and everything".

Next day we on our way and her brother picks us up at the airport. My girl tells me she have told them I am the new boyfriend and even if I don't feel comfortable with this I just play along. She knows I am in a committed relationship but she told me she just had to say something orelse it would be out of question to bring a new guy into their Cebu home.

Nice big apartment in the hillside of Cebu. Great view but still sticky. We spend one night at their house with additional party with loads of drinking and I found

The mentioned resort was all nice but crappy food. I don't know how they manage to destroy the easiest dishes here in phils but I would not give that resort a top star due to this. Others than that it was nice relaxing and you didn't need any money around the resort as you could just charge your room. Ibiza bar, nightclub, restaurant atthe resort very nice and additional entertainment. Found out they ran the same show every three nights but its ok. Some sexy dancers I must say.

And here comes the strange thing and I believe this is due to a combo of beeing drained from 9 days of heavy mongering to fall into something that could be a relationship lookalike. Even so I could not perform. She tried and tried to get to sex me. Many times each day (even in thecar on our way to the falls, it was a big Landcruiser so no problem there, spacewice). So then the famous words comes out from her lips "now you have to fuck me", "I am dying here and I am dead horny". Wow I wish I could perform but my willy just would not cooperate. I damned him and cursed him multiple times and told him this is unfair. Here we stand in a sideroad in the middle of the bushes and I can not fuck my cabingirl. It went after a while Never experienced this before and hope I never will again.

My soulution will be to still meet the girl but as we allways have and not this relationship lookalike kind of a deal. That obviously freightens the shit out of me and is very different from my normal 1 to 2 hrs sessions I normaly do girls under. Holy mother of God. This was a strange experience. Never again.

Well at least you tried Skoggiemon. Quite the storey though.

PC out.

[Member #4387]

After a mongerspree of 9 days in Makati it was time to cool off with my designated cathay pacific cabin crew girl. She arrived in Naia last Thursday, we spend one day at Ascott rabbitwice and we sorted out where to go from there. I haven't done much of intelligence on this bird but I knew she is mixed (us / phil the caucasian way). I knew her late dad was a captain for United and so on. I know she is borned in US and I know she tried to become a pilot but didn't succeed due to some eye issues.

She is gorgeous, tall and pale skinned (just the way I like them). We have been meeting on and off wuite a few times. Sometimes in London, sometimes in Paris, HKG, LAX and ofcourse in phils. She has as far as I know been in relationship and cheated like I do. So in all a balanced "relationship".

When we met this time she was acting quite weird so I asked her what was wrong. She showed me some msg activity me and her processed earlier and her husband had found out. He hated me and had now broke up with this girl. "Wow, that's sticky" me thinks and I am afraid she is now will try delude my ass into a relationship. She tells me her mother has moved back to Cebu (from US) and she has to go visit her. We debate this while fucking and since she is a sexy spinner I can not help myself to say the strange words "ok I can come with you to Cebu, visit your mother and everything".

Next day we on our way and her brother picks us up at the airport. My girl tells me she have told them I am the new boyfriend and even if I don't feel comfortable with this I just play along. She knows I am in a committed relationship but she told me she just had to say something orelse it would be out of question to bring a new guy into their Cebu home.

Nice big apartment in the hillside of Cebu. Great view but still sticky. We spend one night at their house with additional party with loads of drinking and I found the brother very nice. He'd joined his mother from US to Cebu but was planning to go back Frisco this x mas as he had GF and baby over there. To my "GF" I told this is beeing to sticky lets go resort some. She followed my lead and thought that was a good idea. What surpised me was that the mother insisted on paying to treat us a nice time together in our lying relationship. We docked the next day at Mövenpick Mactan resort and it was quite a nice place. My "GF" borrowed one of the households cars and drove me around Cebu while giving me some heads up here and there. Everything nice in Cebu I found to be, according to her, either japaneese build or korean companies. The new SM mall opening 2017 looked smashing and I learned that the great fighter over here had bought 10 dekars of land close to this comming mall. We drove through Cebus only tunell (japaneese made) without me beeing very impressed (I am from Norway so tunells we know how to build). We drove like 3 hours one way to some "spectacular" waterfalls and back. I drank beer she was driving. The waterfalls, HM, again I am from Norway so if I say this fall was around 30-40 mts I told here in my country we do have some waterfalls of like 600 to 655 mts. But the place was beautiful with loads of screaming koreans out under the waterfalls while they had the normal picture bonanza.

The mentioned resort was all nice but crappy food. I don't know how they manage to destroy the easiest dishes here in phils but I would not give that resort a top star due to this. Others than that it was nice relaxing and you didn't need any money around the resort as you could just charge your room. Ibiza bar, nightclub, restaurant atthe resort very nice and additional entertainment. Found out they ran the same show every three nights but its ok. Some sexy dancers I must say.

And here comes the strange thing and I believe this is due to a combo of beeing drained from 9 days of heavy mongering to fall into something that could be a relationship lookalike. Even so I could not perform. She tried and tried to get to sex me. Many times each day (even in thecar on our way to the falls, it was a big Landcruiser so no problem there, spacewice). So then the famous words comes out from her lips "now you have to fuck me", "I am dying here and I am dead horny". Wow I wish I could perform but my willy just would not cooperate. I damned him and cursed him multiple times and told him this is unfair. Here we stand in a sideroad in the middle of the bushes and I can not fuck my cabingirl. It went after a while over to become a mental issue so the rest of the trip I just played her pussy with hands, fingers and tools. Atleast its something and even if she was not to happy it was ok.

I managed to fuck her yesterday while returning back at Ascott after 3 days resorting on her mothers bill. Now she has flown away and I am in BKK for some additional pussy on my way back home to my GF. Maybe the hole GF thing got my willy scared. It was atleast of some mental state. Never experienced this before and hope I never will again.

My soulution will be to still meet the girl but as we allways have and not this relationship lookalike kind of a deal. That obviously freightens the shit out of me and is very different from my normal 1 to 2 hrs sessions I normaly do girls under. Holy mother of God. This was a strange experience. Never again.

[Wicked Roger]

Thanks for the feedback RK. This girl didn't give me any signs. So you right the risk is too high. Maybe if I tried to establish a conversation first and invited to meet her again then it would be ok to hand over my contact details. But I got away with it and on top of that it turned out to be a huge success. But I doubt I will be as reckless again.

Lucky boy MA as a friend did the same and received a text message from her along he following lines:

"I am army and know you, if you go near her again I will put my gun up a** and shoot as I am army".

Turns out he was the jealous ex boyfriend who (and this is only pinay logic) she kept seeing and he looked at her phone!

So he was also lucky that they never met at that time. Well they did I the end only after he was sure no problems and he went around the houses to make sure no gun was shoved in a painful place LOL.

[Ms Account]

You identified in one hit the big risks involved in handing out contact numbers to random contacts. It is a big risk if the girl doesn't give you some sign that she is interested in you by some signal (such as the smile or the continuing looks or other signs).

Thanks for the feedback RK. This girl didn't give me any signs. So you right the risk is too high. Maybe if I tried to establish a conversation first and invited to meet her again then it would be ok to hand over my contact details. But I got away with it and on top of that it turned out to be a huge success. But I doubt I will be as reckless again.