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  1. #348

    You can learn Spanish easy

    Socker,

    I learned Spanish in six months looong time ago. The trick is to frequently travel to Colombia to practice with friends and not just working girls!

    There is a great language schools in Medallo. Cheap by western standards and you'll meet locals who want to learn yours! Try EAFIT.

    BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Socker  [View Original Post]
    I am not an expert on either Colombia or Cebu but those are my main hunting grounds these days. PI has Manila, AC and Cebu, those are the places I am familiar (excluding Manila). AC and Cebu are not beach towns but have beach towns nearby. AC has Puerta Galera and Cebu has Bantayan, Bohol and Moatball. I have been to both Bantayan (definitely BYOG) and Puerto Galera, (has it's own bar scene, no need to BYOG). There are lots of reports on these places so you should find them and take notes. Both these places (PG and Bantayan) are special places worth a visit of a few days, no longer than that for me.

    AC is the Costco of bars and sex, w / easy pickings for any guy. To me though the ladies are average, in the 5, 6.7 category. The stunners are hard to find but fun to hunt for, nonetheless. BF prices in the bars from $25 up to who knows. Should be happy for the night for around $60 for 1 lady. Puerta Galera is a 2 hr. Bus / 2 hr. Boat ride away (4 hrs. Total) worth the effort. It's a divers paradise w / a small quaint beach town feel (Sabang). The bargirls there are warm and friendly and I heard the prices have gone up. Lots of little beaches to go to by renting a boat w / a driver for about $20/30 for a 1/2 day.

    Cebu has the lookers IMO. There are fewer places to hunt but both times I have been to Cebu I have been impressed w / the cebuanas. The prices are higher than in AC, last November 2000p BF plus tip for a bargirl but they were hot looking stunners for the most part. One problem w / Cebu is the Korean guys get special treatment and it can get in the way of the fun, but I had no problem getting what I wanted eventually. So that's about all I have time for, you should find the numerous reports and they should have all the info you need. Bantayan is a 2 hr drive / 1, 5 hr boat ride away. Inexpensive resorts there w / vacany's, it is a pristine gorgeous island, must BYOG.

    As for Colombia. The language issue is VERY large and I have been studying now for almost 2 years. Once I have the ability to converse easily w / the Colombianas I am not sure where I will want to go for fun. The Colombianas are spectacular looking and can handle themselves in a party atmosphere much better. You give a filipina 4 drinks and she will throw up and pass out. The Colombiana can drink you under the table and then REALLY FUCK YOUR BRAINS OUT. If I could only go to one place it would be Colombia, easy decision.

    The cost on the ground in both Colombia and PI are (in my experience) very similar. In an AC BJ bar what, $15 for a 5 to blow you. In a Colombian Casa. 30 minutes (w / an 8 or 9) $18, w / a beer $19. 50. Very similar EXCEPT to the eye. In Colombia, $18 to fuck a beautiful model and that's why I am so freaking happy all the time. Hahahahaha heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Just trying to help.

  2. #347
    Just a little update from a 2 day trip to cebu. A little freelance scene can be found at the burgerbar "Friday" in Ayala Mall. Have a few beers ad smile at the girls passing by and company should be easy. Went to the Mango Square scene, which I had not been to for 5 years. The Viking seemed way bett erthan it was years ago. Nice relaxed vibe and a lot of 9-10. Different vibe at Papillion, Better music there if you ask me. Prices are 3000 at Papilion and 3300 in Viking incl. Barfine. Talked to Nicole (the one with the hughe boobs) Only downside to her an some of the more attractive ones are that they seem a little too pro, having heard too much bula-bula for too long.

    Other than that the Chuva Chuva massage is still great for Ling-am massage. 900 peso. I had a treatment from Chris, who was greatat both the massage and the happy ending. She did not ask for a tip or extras (topless etc) before finishing, which usualy can ruin the experience.

    Lastly I went to the Wild Orchide Health Club, at the Crown Regency Hotel in the V. Rama avenue. The seems to have been no reports from there in quite awhile. Opening hours 12 am to 2 am. So I was not even sure it was still there. But it was! Its located in the parking cellar of the hotel and is impossible to find without asking the guys out in from of the hotel (or asking in the recpetion)

    Massage is 400 pesos and I had 8 girls to choose from. I choose the one with the big boobs and who looked most eperienced. She was! She wanted all inclusive for 4000. Which I laughed at and rejected. 2000 was agreed on and included asshole / prostata massage, bare back blow job and regular fucky fucky (I tried for anal which as usual in PH was rejected).

  3. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by Levdog  [View Original Post]
    KingsWood.

    Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.

    One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.
    The club scene and bars are 2 different things here in Cebu, to me the disco clubs have not changed, but the bars have suffered even arena says there is no bar fine, they have stopped the nudity, so explain how that is the same.

  4. #345
    KingsWood.

    Thanks for taking the time to give us your experience at the " Pump". The advantage that foreigners have here in the Philippines is that the vast majority of the people here have little or no money. That enables us fortunate enough to be here, to choose from a wide selection of girls.

    One person who frequently makes incorrect comments on this board said that the club scene is not as good as it was 5 years ago. Well that is not true. In fact the bar scene has changed little in the last 30 years. The bar scene has changed in Manila because of the closing of the Mabini bars, but here in Cebu, the scene has remained stable since 1983. In Manila, the infamous Major Lim decided that the thriving clubs and bars needed to be closed and systematically started having his goon police start a series of raids which over time forced the closing of those clubs. This changed the scene in Manila but here in cebu city, there has always been a small, vibrant number of bars. However, the best action here has always been how easy it is to meet regular girls, and in my humble, and probably biased opinion, the girls in the southern Philippines islands are the most beautiful of them all.

  5. #344
    Quote Originally Posted by KingsWood  [View Original Post]
    I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. [SNIP]

    The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation. [SNIP]
    KW,

    If you walked up to my GF and just grabbed her or "made a move on her" you would be in deep trouble to say the least. The first time in the Philippines can give you the feeling like you're a rock star and all eyes are on you, but you need to realize this is a place where misunderstandings quickly turn into someone lying on the ground with a chalk outline around them. Yes there are alot of filipinas available to meet and have a good time with, but if you make a move on a filipina that's already taken or your approach is too aggressive her friends or other filipinos will step in and protect her. You went to a disco, not a bikini bar. Be careful, be respectful.

    Stand back, assess the situation. Watch who she is with, and try and make eye contact with your chosen filipina to show you're interested. Once you get the right signal approach her in a calm and respectful way, doing this always yourself a way out if her BF comes up to you. Just say the filipina looks like one of your wife's friends and you're looking for her.

    Welcome to ISG.

  6. #343

    Cebu day 1

    This is a work in progress, because I am still in manila and having a fucking good time.

    I spent my fist week in Cebu and I am traveling alone. On my first full day I go to the girlie bars to re acquaint myself with what is around.

    I am staying at the Crown Regency Towers so my local is the Silver Dollar. I have read some negative info about this place but in my limited experience it is as good as any bar in Cebu. A big plus is this bar opens at 1 pm, while the rest open at 7 or 8 pm. If you are looking for a new day time hook up this place may be your best option. The second shift starts at 4 pm and finishes at 1 am.

    In the "mango square' area there are some clubs and a few hundred meters away a cluster of girlie bars which many here know well. Pussy cat / lovecity / papillon / dimples / red lips / viking / eric / planet x etc. Over the week I visit all of them and I can make the following generalizations.

    The average girl I met was about 22, 5ft1, 40 kg, has 1 child, pretty. 600 facebook friends and a beautiful smile. Overall I found the girls are good fun but I did have some poor experiences.

    The last place I visit on my 1st night is Pump Disco. It is the 17th Dec and a Monday night, so when I walk in at 2am it looks very quite. I see a tallish girl dancing around the tables and without any inhibitions try to make a move on her. She doesn't look like a working girl and the situation becomes awkward when she doesn't reciprocate, but I persevere and eventually we make good conversation.

    Soon I realize she is a freelancer. Her name is Min, can't remember her age now but think she is 24. She has some distinctive characteristics, like her height, glamorous hair (to Korean taste) and very submissive mannerisms. Initially I was not planning to take her home. I was more interested in just getting some numbers and a good night sleep.

    Min introduced me to her 'friends' who were sitting outside and drinking. They included other working girls and Korean guys. This would be my only night at Pump (too many other distractions in Cebu) but what I understood is this place was typically a Korean hangout.

    After an hour of drinking and talking, I get a lot of insight from the Korean perspective of girls here. I won't elaborate, but found they were a bit shamless in how they talked about the phil girls (actually I find some of us westerners there not too dissimilar). Min tried to keep a dignified face in their company, but I saw it was wearing her down. Later she would even complain about these guys but I found it strange because she chose to work there as well.

    I take her back to my hotel. Reception ask for her I'd. They do not look her in the eye and predominantly looking down on the ground and keeping silent except when talking to me. I wonder if Min notices this and when we get into the elevator she comes out with 'sometimes I just hate myself'. Turned out she was what some would call an 'emo' but in my drunken stupor I did not give her much consolation. Actually I was quite sympathetic to her feeling, but I would learn many times that if you give these girls some heart they can just as easily take advantage of it.

    Back in the bedroom she and I just go to sleep without any communication. We wake up 3 or 4 hrs later for some hip grinding and after that neither of us could get any more sleep.

    When paying her I gave 2, 000p. It was shown to here as a 1000 note with 2x500 notes inside. She could not possibly know how much I gave her, but nodded anyway and said it was ok.

  7. #342

    AC mandatory bar fines

    My view of this is this, the bars that have a mandatory min of drinks the barfine is priced at 1700+750= 2450, the bars that done the bar fine is 2000, and it would take on avg 2 drinks at 200 each to determine if you are compatible with her. 2200, and there are other bars whewre the girls were wanting 3000, so like the other poster mentioned the expats or regulars who don't get charged that 750 are already buying prob 750 in drinsk for the mamsan or the owner or their fav bar girls anyway, so it not worth geting ruffled about over <20usd.

    It just like in the AC thread guys are getting upset about xyz overpaying, but if for example I take a girl for 1500, then I take her bar hopping, take her to dinner at a italian place take her to the movie and I spend 1000, which is never reported, but if I was to take her to the hotel and we have a relaxing night watching tv and fucking, then I report that I tipped her 1000, then I'd be flamed as being someone who is ruining the market. The girls would rather have a extra tipp than being dragged around to places they don't really enjoy anyway.

    My two cents

  8. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by Boofa69  [View Original Post]
    Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.
    The guys who have been around for awhile and are known to the girls, the mamasan and-or the owner (either one or all) do not have to pay a drink minimum to barfine. Granted we are usually the ones to sit and buy a few LD's and shoot the shit while watching the girls on stage anyways. From what I heard this new policy is there to stop the 'cheap charlie' guys who come in and stand at the stage to inspect the girls close up or they request a line-up and choose the girl without ever sitting down, ordering a drink or talking to the girl. Now those guys have to pay-up.

    If you're a newbie expect to be asked to buy drinks and sit awhile. Some places do not care if you buy three drinks for three different girls. Just make sure to ask a few questions before awarding a few LD's as many BG's have turned into drink sluts who are there for the drinks but refuse to barfine. Do not award a girl who is only there for conversation. Bargirls are there to be barfined!

  9. #340

    Chicken

    Thank you for your good info. I have been to Cebu and A / see fields and agree with all that you say. I would add. If I met a girl in A / C it would be a long time before I would come to think she was not, is not and has not been a bar girl. In cebu I think there is a good chance to meet normal girl while out and about. Now somethimes you do with out the freak with the normal girls. Lots of I have never done that. No my friends do not want to come over also. So, I would pick soley on wether or not it was a sex trip. I can say I never get tired of the newbies. But sometimes need the freaky sex. Thanks again for the info.

  10. #339

    Cebu lady drinks.

    Mutantchicken I was wondering which mango bars are enforcing this mininum 750pesos lady drink policy with the barfine. Surely it must be the bars only trying this to newbies. I'm sure expats living there don't have to pay this minimum lady drink policy. Maybe some foreigners living there can enlighten us about this.

  11. #338

    More cebu

    Yester day I tried the girls on colon out of the 3-4 there one was a 6. 5,7 in the room as she was a girls prob 90 pounds with with be-see cips, over all a great fuck everything you could ask for and cost me 500+100 tip took about 1hr to get the deed done. I was unrushed but I didn't want to do the usual hugging afterwards.

    I then tried a girsl I was chatting with at the bars I previosly mentions 750p in lady drinks and 1700 bar fine, a really nice girl but just not into sex, must have some residual emotional issies she stayed overnite, refused BJ but everything else was GFE with kissing and hugging but since she refused a BJ I couldn't get hard to fuck her at night and only managed a round with my morning glory. Again nice girls but not accomadating towards sex so whilst I wasnt upset or angry I didn't think she deserved a tip and she didn't ask for one but is suppose 2500 ie 1700+750 in LD to fuck and hug a girls overnight isn't such a bad deal not the best but I won't be crying.

    On my last day in cebu, I decided to take a large breasted girl from one of the bars again it was 1700+750 in mandatory LD. She stay till morning was kissing and GFE BUT she was telling me she didn't know HOW to BJ so that was kind of annoying, but she was willing to go three rounds with me so in leaving I tipped her 300.

    Then this next experience would have been the highlight of my trip. Earlier I mentioned that I was in contact with a fellow forum member and he had questioned my preference for bar girls rather than freelancers and my answer was that bar girls were better looking, tho more expensive and gave me a GFE comparable to freelancer. Well in this last example I may have to eat some of my words. The said gentleman had given me contacts to two ladies the first was not to my liking, the second was the complete match to what I like her name was I incorrectly said queenie but was infact AMANDA, who is 23, bisexual, slim and best of all a very good conversationalist and gave the impression of a very nice wholesome girl, BUT with a wicked sexual core. Overall she was a very good sexual partner, I ended up with 5 bar girls and 3 were equally horney, so was the grils from colon street and finally amanda gave me the best impression of as GFE as possible given the way we met. I was told she normally asked for 2000, but she said I can give her 1500 and she was going to stay with me for 5-6hrs. Wow the time went so quickly and in the end including her taxi I gave her about 1800.

    So in summary ill repeat what others have said about cebu, that if you have the time and the perseverance then Cebu freelancer hunting can be a very profitable experience but you have to take a few hots before you strike gold, unless you can convince the cebu samaritan to pass you amanda details.

    I am now in AC and so I will give a brief comparision between cebu and AC, ill qualify that I'm a budget minded guy, I don't drink and I'm her to have sex with attractive girl, I'm not here to impress girls with my money or status, Chinese-australian, and I have been told I'm reasonably attractive but who knows what thats means lets say I'm not ugly as narcistic as that sounds.

    Accomodation.

    Cebu is slightly more expensive as in cebu I was paying 1500 for a similar room in ac that I'm paying 1000.

    Daytime activities.

    Cebu is a tad bit closer to the beaches etc and has more cultural sites but most guys are going for sex holidays so I don't thinks thats much relevant, you can mall hunt and DIA meet in cebu, in AC the DIA girls tend to be working in the bars anyway so not exactly easy to find college girls etc. Both have malls in which to watch movies, BUt on the flip side cvebu has the BJ bars and perimiter road bars that open up early as opposed to the 8pm opening times of cebu bars.

    Bargirls.

    The girls in cebu tend to be more slimmer and fairer, so in a average bar in cebu I would be be able to say thats 50-60% ie 4-5 out of the 10-15grisl working would be attarctive for me, BUT in AC I would go in a bar and see only 5-10% of the girls being adequately attractive so the bar could have 30girls and I'd say onlly 1-2 would be worth the effort. In AC much more fatter girls with stretch marks that I find more unttractive than darker skin, and generally the ages are older in AC. But the sheer number of girls in AC allows to to bottom feed hunt, looking for that diamond in the rough, which could be a activity to pass the time. The large number of bars is also another positive because in cebu there were only 5-6 bars in which I found the girls to be attractive and asked for a reasonable price ie lessthan 3000, so after tou have takes 1 girsl from each of those bars, I found myself in the position where othergirls from the same bar refused my interest based on their own code of "bros before ho's", so even if you have girls you are interested in the same bar you will not have the possibility of tasted the second girls.

    Bar costs.

    In cebu the drinks were generally 65, the lady 150-200, bar fines based on what you can get away with paying the least is about 2200-2500. Ie the barfine and min LD drinks bought. In AC it is a bit more deceptive, perimeter road is 65 drinks. 120 ld. 1000-1500 in bar fines but I think you would be hard pressed to find girls attractive enuff, fields ave bars, the drinks were 95 ld 150-300 and barfines 1800-3000, but I tink given the tendancy you would get a girl on avergafe for 2000.

    So I'm my view when you factor in averages the price would be similar to cebu and AC tho if you look at min pricing then AC is cheaper.

    In my mind AC is where you can go purely for sex, ie the pay the minimum for a girl regardless of looks, but you have more chances to find diamond, and you can stay longer without encountering the two girl blockage.

    Cebu is where you go if you want to put in the time and effort to find a "normal" girl or to find hassle free attarctive girls without having to hit 5-6bars looking for that special girl

  12. #337

    Cebu experiences

    I would like to preface this post firstly by thanking all past posters for the background info and whilst the utilisation of of all this information can be of questionable success nevertheless I would to express my than ks and gratitude. I would especially like to thank one particular member who went to far as to email me some of his contacts and whilst these contacts turn out not to a success I still feel enormous goodwill for this member. I will not name him due to the fact that he will prob be inundated by guys wanted to have his assistance. I will recount my experieced and even tho some of these will not be positive I still don't want to come across as ungratfule or I'm disrespecting the said member who was helpful, its just a matter of different tastes.

    Street workers colon / peleaz.

    I was coming back from the islands with backpack and I found myself on this street at 7pm and I saw 1 cute girls prob a 7 19-20 yrs old I was curious and I asked her the price 500p, later that nite I hit the bars so was too lazy to go find her again. The next day was the day of the typhoon and so there was not much action around that time.

    Streeet workers Juleanna osama.

    I was curious so I walked prob 500m at 9pm one night and yes the girls looked unclean and generally unsavoury. I started around the bookstore and walked up a bit.

    Jave / mango square.

    One night I decided to activelly approach some girls, one girl seems unintyerested was turning away from me, another turned out to have another prospective buyer in line so she didn't talk to me. I think if you come at 12=1am like I did most girls have already had offeres that have not been finalised. The final girl was prob a 6. 5-7. She seems very interested in me but the story is that she is a nursing student from manila here studing and her dormitory has girls working the bars and this little cadre of girls was pushing her to maintain the fixed price of 3000 a night, I maanaged to talk her down to 2000 which is still a bit high given I can get 8's in the bars fpr 2500 so I passed on her offer. Outside on the square were all transsexuals so it was not very enticing.

    Ayalla mall.

    I spent prob a toal of 4-5 hours spread over 3 days and I didn't see any girls thats were more attarctive than the ones found in the bars and they either didmt look like they were on the game or they just werent my tastes. I even saw the DIA dates of a few guys and all I can say was very undesirable.

    Personal contacts referred by a gratious member.

    I was given contacts of two ladies, one was describes as bi slim sexy betc, her name was queenie.

    The seocnd name was apple, with a nice body, I get contacted by apple first and she is quite flirty and speakes via text in a pleasant way. I am further told by my said mentor that ehr pays these girls 2000+taxi.

    So I organise to meet apple as she is the first one to contact me at ayala, she is punctual and courteous when she arrives, she described herself as 21 gorgeous, witty and sexy, the girl I met I would give her a 5in looks she looks plump and dressed like a girl in her 30s so she looked sloser to 27 than 21. Anway as I didn't want to waste her time nor mine, I told her that I didn't know what she looked like and if it was possible that I give her taxi money and taht we part ways, I did offer to take her to lunch beofre I rejected her based on her not being my type.

    Later I get a text from queenie but now considerig the price I was thinking 1000-1500 and the previous encounter whether I should proceed with these said meetups with freelancer.

    I mean 2500 for a 8 bar girl w stays over nights and gives me 3 round OR a 5-6 college girl 2000+taxi.

    Another point if interest, I got a offer from a bar girl who works at a bar that is 2000 bar fine, I had taken another girl where she stayed me me 4 hrs and we had two round, she had intened to stay till morning but she said she had to do something in the morning so I was happy to let her go, so the second girls who offered me to meet me out of the bar, she now says she wanst me to give her 1500 per roound and she was planning to stay 2-3 hours. What is in the minds of these girls where she thinks a monger would agree. I mean from her persepctive if I bar fine her at the bar out of that 2000 she only gets 800, now if I take her out of of the ssytem she gets 1500, BUT on my side of the equations I get 2000/3 round if my take her from the bar or 3000/2 round if I take her out, I mean where's the logic

  13. #336

    Cebu Worth It?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked Roger  [View Original Post]
    Stay where you are YG as you won't enjoy Cebu at all. Best you go AC and Pattaya as so much more culture there and let Cebu be visited by people like me and a few dedicated others
    I concur with WR. Borrring and a lot more work than Angeles or Pattaya.

    Cheapy

  14. #335
    Quote Originally Posted by YG365  [View Original Post]
    Hey fellow mongers,

    I've been mongering for a while and have pretty much found my go to spots to monger like Angeles. I was just hoping to get some of your opinions on Cebu? How you like the mongering scene, if it's worth, comparisons, etc. I've heard and read a lot about the beach clubs, etc. Any thoughts and could you relate it to anything in Pattaya or Angeles?

    Thanks for your time,

    YG
    Stay where you are YG as you won't enjoy Cebu at all. Best you go AC and Pattaya as so much more culture there and let Cebu be visited by people like me and a few dedicated others

  15. #334

    Is Cebu worth it?

    Hey fellow mongers,

    I've been mongering for a while and have pretty much found my go to spots to monger like Angeles. I was just hoping to get some of your opinions on Cebu? How you like the mongering scene, if it's worth, comparisons, etc. I've heard and read a lot about the beach clubs, etc. Any thoughts and could you relate it to anything in Pattaya or Angeles?

    Thanks for your time,

    YG

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