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  1. #21712
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Yepp, he is long gone from our world of sanity. The guy is a medical fool.
    And there are people who are just fools.

  2. #21711
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    That's because the virus vector which infects your cells with the covid protein is an adenovirus and you make antibodies to the adenovirus vector. Thus, the second Johnson dose should not be effective since your body will neutralize the adenovirus in the Johnson vaccine and you will not have the adenovirus force your cells to produce covid proteins.

    Again these vaccines are all fake and not real vaccines.
    So you are saying that I made the right decision not to take the vaccine so far then LOL!

  3. #21710
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    So you are saying to take aspirin before and during and after getting vaccinated with corona vaccines?
    Yepp, he is long gone from our world of sanity. The guy is a medical fool.

  4. #21709

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  5. #21708
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I thought aspirin calms down the inflammation?
    Yes, but inflammation is part of the immune response which you theoretically don't want to suppress since the point of vaccination is to train the immune system.

    Paracetamol addresses pain and fever without reducing inflammation.

    That being said, it's theoretical as there are not enough studies to show that those non-steroid anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) actually thwarts the training of antibody producing B_cells or cytotoxic T_cells when reducing general inflammation.

  6. #21707
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Aspirin is an NSAID so no, paracetamol would be better if wanting to avoid muscle aches and fever.
    I thought aspirin calms down the inflammation?

  7. #21706
    Quote Originally Posted by Mojoman74  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know if Aurelia, previously working in FKK Sharks and Club Globe, is still in the game? Would love to see her again.
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    She will be back in the game in Globe soon.
    She is back in Globe today.

  8. #21705
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    So you are saying to take aspirin before and during and after getting vaccinated with corona vaccines?
    Aspirin is an NSAID so no, paracetamol would be better if wanting to avoid muscle aches and fever.

  9. #21704
    Vaccines do not prevent you from getting covid, you still get covid even you are vaccinated, so you may survive, but you can give to other people who are more prone to have bad after result, I would say best is limit the movement, try to stay in, and wear masks, which seems to be hard thing to do in west, you tell them to do so, they go outside, gather to protest without masks shouting and breaking and set fire on things and robbing the store, what is that all about? LOL!

    At the moment, Tokyo had under 30 infections per day for over one month everyday, which is good number for mega city, but we are expecting 6th wave to come and people are wearing masks still, we just block some flights again and it seems covid life style continue through out this winter, when will this end is what is on everyone's mind LOL!

    Covid even took GT out of business, it was because of covid that they had to sell it even though owner apparently passed away and also the place got mysteriously got burnt afterward! But let see what will happen to GT after, it may even come back as better club than before as it was not good line up club, but I miss the garden fuck LOL!

  10. #21703
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Go to Germany, even though their infection and death rates are highest ever, they are having carnivals and people are gathering all over the pace! I do not know whether if Germans are smart or stupid with this irrational acts LOL!

    I do not take vaccine as of this moment, but I pretty much stay in beside one or two lunch in good restaurants every two weeks! It is best protection, do not meet human!
    Very important Munich Christmas market is cancelled, big loss of money. 2 G asked to enter restaurants, bars, museums. Riots in NL versus lockdown. Only problem is vaccines are not really efficient and I don t even say about Chinese which was told only around 50% efficiency, when Pfizer was told more than 90% efficiency, but we can see reality with new dose after only 5 months. When Israel is US cobaye, third dose for everybody and South African Omicron there, great result, when Israelians go everywhere in Western world, so they will bring us new gift and nothing about brothels.

  11. #21702
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    The first two doses of Pfizer had virtually no effect on me. But when I got the booster, I was down for two solid days! I had a fever, body aches all over, a headache, and got a painful swelling in my armpit on the side where I got the shot (this swelling of the lymph nodes is a known side effect). Well, my body's reaction proved I have the antibodies in me. So, as uncomfortable as I was for a couple of days, I'm happy to have strong protection against the virus, which I have yet to contract.
    Go to Germany, even though their infection and death rates are highest ever, they are having carnivals and people are gathering all over the pace! I do not know whether if Germans are smart or stupid with this irrational acts LOL!

    I do not take vaccine as of this moment, but I pretty much stay in beside one or two lunch in good restaurants every two weeks! It is best protection, do not meet human!

  12. #21701
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Inflammatory response is part of (specific) immune response but specific immune response is not part of the inflammatory process. NSAIDs such as ibuprofen reduce inflammation which has secondary effects on immune response. It may have some measurable reduction in triggering memory cells involved in future antibody production but theories that it may render vaccination ineffective is just hypothetical conjecture.

    For future reference, paracetamol-acetaminophen could be used to alleviate post-vaccination symptoms of fever and body aches rather than NSAIDs to ensure proper immune response.
    So you are saying to take aspirin before and during and after getting vaccinated with corona vaccines?

  13. #21700
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    Maybe they can get people to take the vaccine if they give out some oxycodone pills with it. Since there will be no anti-inflammatory response by oxycodone either.
    Probably yes.

  14. #21699
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Inflammatory response is part of (specific) immune response but specific immune response is not part of the inflammatory process. NSAIDs such as ibuprofen reduce inflammation which has secondary effects on immune response. It may have some measurable reduction in triggering memory cells involved in future antibody production but theories that it may render vaccination ineffective is just hypothetical conjecture.

    For future reference, paracetamol-acetaminophen could be used to alleviate post-vaccination symptoms of fever and body aches rather than NSAIDs to ensure proper immune response.
    Maybe they can get people to take the vaccine if they give out some oxycodone pills with it. Since there will be no anti-inflammatory response by oxycodone either.

  15. #21698
    Quote Originally Posted by BobNSuzy  [View Original Post]
    My understanding is it could possibly affect the bodies inflammatory response. I'm not a doctor but that is what ibuprophen generally does in layman terms and that is what a vaccine causes in layman terms.
    Inflammatory response is part of (specific) immune response but specific immune response is not part of the inflammatory process. NSAIDs such as ibuprofen reduce inflammation which has secondary effects on immune response. It may have some measurable reduction in triggering memory cells involved in future antibody production but theories that it may render vaccination ineffective is just hypothetical conjecture.

    For future reference, paracetamol-acetaminophen could be used to alleviate post-vaccination symptoms of fever and body aches rather than NSAIDs to ensure proper immune response.

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