German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Pentire]

Last weekend I had two days back at Sharks for the first time in almost three years and have to say and despite the increased pricing structure, I hugely enjoyed myself. Not always but predominantly paying more certainly encouraged the girl to put in a proper shift especially following our pre-bedroom conversation regarding my expectations.

I'm London based and with the exception of a small club in Baden Baden all of my previous trips to FKK land have been in the Frankfurt area which I know well, although Sharks is the clear leader in my opinion.

Nonetheless, I'm very keen to spread my wings and explore more establishments in Germany especially those recommended by some of you guys. Clearly it would be hard to imagine there are other places in the country which could compete with Sharks for quality / quantity of girls, facilities (I like the sauna and steam room) jacuzzi, variation of rooms, bar area, outdoor poolside and of course the very reasonable quality of food.

Is there somewhere else I should be visiting either winter or summer?

P.S Im cool paying 100.00 for a proper 30 minute session but refuse to agree more.

[Pessimist]

The FKK advantage isn't that you have 100 naked girls wandering to be ogled. Albeit as pleasant as that is.

It's that those 100 girls are (excuse the expression) for sale! I'm there to buy, and the product is right there ready for my inspection. And it just begins with checking out her body and face. We get to inspect *behavior* as well.

Having to choose based on GIFs, ads, and emails is so inferior I'm surprised this isn't mentioned more often.

"Having to choose based on GIFs, ads, and emails is so inferior I'm surprised this isn't mentioned more often" - your imagination at work here?

"We get to inspect *behavior* as well. " - yes, I am sure you can read so much from "baby, what you make".

[Neurosynth]

The FKK advantage isn't that you have 100 naked girls wandering to be ogled. Albeit as pleasant as that is.

It's that those 100 girls are (excuse the expression) for sale! I'm there to buy, and the product is right there ready for my inspection. And it just begins with checking out her body and face. We get to inspect *behavior* as well.

Having to choose based on GIFs, ads, and emails is so inferior I'm surprised this isn't mentioned more often.

[Sirioja]

Paying 300 for an hour is routine for me, but I am selective. I'm lucky if I see even 2 or 3 I want in an entire afternoon to late evening at a club. A typical price breakdown would be 100 for the hour, 100 for anal sex, and 100 for BBBJ / CIM (with 50 being contingent on whether or not I actually sperm in her mouth).

In NRW, 175/60 with anal and CIM. In Hessen 250/60. As a poor French sleeping with my cheap bicycle climbing most difficult highest ranked and cheap skis running most extreme spots, in my cheap, nearly 600 000 kms, car even in cold Winter, every service working on it being amazed how still work engine and turbo with more power than original, I only pay for time with girls, then I play with my talent to try to get the best from what I enjoy. 100/60 is still my standard. More expensive are not normal exceptions in my mind. Had many very good 100/60 with fresh natural beauties on this Summer.

[Pessimist]

A girl would have to be absolutely spectacular for me to pay her EUR300 for an hour. The hottest FKK girl I ever went to the zimmer with was in Oase many years ago and I paid EUR50 for half hour. If I were to meet her today and she looks the same as she did back then I would most likely agree to EUR300 per hour.

150 E is already pushing it. If it goes to 200 E then the cost benefit is out of whack; there is *zero* chance that I will pay 300 E for any FKK session or will even head to DE if I expect to pay that much. At an exchange rate of 1.2, 150 E is $180. I just described my session yesterday with a college girl and what I gave her. Yes, it requires a commitment of $300 but I get to spend much more than an hour (which in FKK parlance is more like 50 minutes, 55 at most, with truly sharky girls could even be 45 minutes); in fact, with this one yesterday it was 2 hours of sex alone. Depends on what the girl is willing to do, but there are never ever any extras either.

The one benefit that FKKs still offer is the situation of 100 naked chicks prowling and demanding sex, and the sheer ambience of debauchery. Yes, it has some value. I don't know how to quantify it.

When I visit FKKs for a few days and consume north of 15 or 20 sessions in 4 to 6 days (I don't have the luxury of staying put in DE for more than a week of sex), there is an element of overgorging. That happens at lower price points. To some extent it is like being in a Las Vegas all you can eat buffet; I know I don't need to eat, I am already full, but it is tasty and there is no incremental cost and I keep eating. On the 4th or 5th day, I don't get to cum in all the sessions; if the girl tugs at my dick it starts hurting as opposed to being pleasurable; all the pussies and asses seem to blend into one single continuum of pussyassdom. It is the law of diminishing utility. But if I have to pay 150 E for a session, those frivolous sessions go out the window. Certainly I have partaken several 50 E sessions with a first time girl in the clubs in the past, more of them towards the end of the trips. It is like "let me sample this pussy, just a 50 E throwaway price". I am not sure if I will consume such sessions at 150 E. And if I am doing just 10 or 15 sessions in 5 days, I will question if making such a long journey is worth it. As such, there are several occupational hazards in my personal situation, the number of stories I need to come up with, etc.

For now, this is moot. Until business travel and conferences etc resume, I am sort of tethered to my home city. Thank god for seeking in the meanwhile. The spigot has begun gushing off late on that side. Since the federal benefits got trimmed in September, the number of girls offering poontang for even 200 to 250 has been significantly on the rise. That is my experience in my city. And on any day, sex with a native, English speaking girl is more real and satisfying to me. So pretty happy about this setup for now.

[Sirioja]

A girl would have to be absolutely spectacular for me to pay her EUR300 for an hour. The hottest FKK girl I ever went to the zimmer with was in Oase many years ago and I paid EUR50 for half hour. If I were to meet her today and she looks the same as she did back then I would most likely agree to EUR300 per hour.

Globe rate is 260 €/60 for mostly average looks coming from Germany now and they lost freshness between, often gaining silicon. On the other hand, can still find in Germany or 6 sens NL some fresh beauties and great GFE for me, for 100/60, now 110/60 at 6. I only pay 100/30 or 150/60 for wow sexy looks and great for me in bed, only 2 girls in Germany on this year. Sharks and Samya are still good for fresh natural beauties if You like Romanians. Wellcum. At have also fresh looks but most often low level in bed for me, when they are used to Italians. Sharks is better for me than before covid, Samya on same level, 6 sens is also better for me than before covid, Globe really fell since 2019 , already falling before covid. When I drive at night after my climbings or clubs, but I started too late my Summer tour only on 8 August after many problems, so I didn t have enough time on days on this Summer, wishing to finish my Summer tour on next week end, wishing for no snow yet and not too cold in Alp Huez, top of Galibier 2645 and Ventoux above chalets. If I succeed for this final, I would have made a really great Summer from how I was until beginning of July and crash on 14, and just coming back from final, as soon getting car repaired, so long and complicated since 14 July, then will put skis and shoes in car for my best Christmas present.

[The Cane]

A girl would have to be absolutely spectacular for me to pay her EUR300 for an hour. The hottest FKK girl I ever went to the zimmer with was in Oase many years ago and I paid EUR50 for half hour. If I were to meet her today and she looks the same as she did back then I would most likely agree to EUR300 per hour.

Paying 300 for an hour is routine for me, but I am selective. I'm lucky if I see even 2 or 3 I want in an entire afternoon to late evening at a club. A typical price breakdown would be 100 for the hour, 100 for anal sex, and 100 for BBBJ / CIM (with 50 being contingent on whether or not I actually sperm in her mouth).

[Turgid]

.....Is 300 E extreme upselling? I guess so. ....

A girl would have to be absolutely spectacular for me to pay her EUR300 for an hour. The hottest FKK girl I ever went to the zimmer with was in Oase many years ago and I paid EUR50 for half hour. If I were to meet her today and she looks the same as she did back then I would most likely agree to EUR300 per hour.

[Mr Ho]

Everything in Switzerland is expensive because people have more disposable income (high salaries and low taxes). The bright side for people living in Switzerland is that when traveling abroad most places feel cheap.

Living in border town like Genève or Basel can act as advantage for swiss people, but also there are some cross border workers like living in Evian, but work in Genève etc as it is only 30 min drive etc.

[Sirioja]

150/60 is not new norm in Germany where can still find many and some pretty girls for 100/60 for GFE / BBBJ, I don t know for 50/30, not my standard for sex. I paid 150/60 only for 2 wow looks who would be the most impressive and on top of level at Globe. Have a elegant sophisticated natural, lovely GFE regular, my best at Sharks, for 100/60. Had 4 really good rooms at 6 sens NL for 100/60 and a bit longer than 60 for 2. Funny I read girls don't provide and ask same rate to all.

[Mr Ho]

I had never paid more than 100 E per hour in a club unless there were extras. Then again, I haven't been in the clubs since Covid. Apparently 150 E is the norm now? Is 300 E extreme upselling? I guess so. However, in the real scheme*of things, it won't make any practical difference to your life. If you were a monger who did 20 sessions per trip, you would have paid 2000 E, now you are prepared to pay 3000 E. Like crabs in hot water, mongers slowly adjusted to pay another 1000 E per trip. If the price goes to 200, they will mentally adjust to paying another 1000. It is the suddenness of the increase that is unsettling. Then they get used to it after a couple of trips. Until the next big jump.

I have returned to my sugarbabe scene after a year of hiatus and wrote a report in the SA thread. For $300, I spent between 3 to 4 hours with a 22 year old blonde junior from a local Univ yesterday; an hour of brunch and 2+ hours in a hotel. The sex alone would have cost more than that in FKKs with the new pricing plans in place, not to mention I didn't have to travel anywhere other than making a 30-minute drive from home. This girl would rank in the top 10 percentile in any FKK on body and top 15 percentile by face, and top 2 by IQ. My best girl in the past month has been a slightly troubled girl but an absolutely gorgeous girl by face and body, very docile and submissive..

I am not into sugarbade scene, but often I paid and pay 150 euo per hour in some clubs like Artemis and palace, now I get lucky sometimes to get it all even rimming for standard 50 or 60 euro (now 70 apparently with price increase), but these days of getting all for standard price is long gone and getting rare occasion now than before, but in Globe I got all for 140 chf standard price even rimming and putting finger in ass etc, but in Germany, it is getting rare.

[Pessimist]

As for what I sometimes read on forum like some FKK girls in Germany saying 300 euro per hour etc is rip off and no way! But I never had such extreme upsell in German FKK, just 150 euro per hour most of time including all GFE can offer! So for me I am happy monger for the price for FKK!

I had never paid more than 100 E per hour in a club unless there were extras. Then again, I haven't been in the clubs since Covid. Apparently 150 E is the norm now? Is 300 E extreme upselling? I guess so. However, in the real scheme*of things, it won't make any practical difference to your life. If you were a monger who did 20 sessions per trip, you would have paid 2000 E, now you are prepared to pay 3000 E. Like crabs in hot water, mongers slowly adjusted to pay another 1000 E per trip. If the price goes to 200, they will mentally adjust to paying another 1000. It is the suddenness of the increase that is unsettling. Then they get used to it after a couple of trips. Until the next big jump.

I have returned to my sugarbabe scene after a year of hiatus and wrote a report in the SA thread. For $300, I spent between 3 to 4 hours with a 22 year old blonde junior from a local Univ yesterday; an hour of brunch and 2+ hours in a hotel. The sex alone would have cost more than that in FKKs with the new pricing plans in place, not to mention I didn't have to travel anywhere other than making a 30-minute drive from home. This girl would rank in the top 10 percentile in any FKK on body and top 15 percentile by face, and top 2 by IQ. My best girl in the past month has been a slightly troubled girl but an absolutely gorgeous girl by face and body, very docile and submissive.

Sugar babe sites have for a long time been free market oriented exchange places. There were average and below average girls who would ask for outrageous amounts just for sending nudes and videos or even just chatting, and more than 500 for an hour of sex; I have been asked $4,000 a month (upfront) for 2 sex meets by just an above average girl recently. I don't know how many takers there are, but some exist. The US has millions of wealthy men who have more money than they know what to do w / it and if these girls catch the right guys, just for talking a few times a day on text messaging, they could receive thousands in monthly allowance. I personally heard of several such arrangements. There are even wealthy women who patronize some of these young ladies, often for platonic relationships. Then again, w / some due diligence and patience, a monger could also find absolute gems at extremely reasonable prices (such as my troubled girl). I get the feeling FKKs may be evolving into similar models, with each girl* setting own price point, albeit all under the same roof.

[PaulInZurich]

Yes I do, because Globe is too expensive. Everything in Switzerland is too expensive! The most expensive place I have ever visited. And to think that there are other countries that are even more expensive than Switzerland! I shudder at the thought. Not going to those places to monger!

Everything in Switzerland is expensive because people have more disposable income (high salaries and low taxes). The bright side for people living in Switzerland is that when traveling abroad most places feel cheap.

[Sirioja]

If you are always negative for more than 20 tests since May, you can't give. On the other hand, some vaccinated are positive and give. But I was happy for her when my Sharks Romanian supermodel who doesn't seem to have a so strong health, got vaccinated at Sharks. More safe for her and when she returns home.

[Sirioja]

I got, DATY and kissed so many girls under covid, not being vaccinated, at my old age. On this Summer I preferred to spend a lot of time for my sport and I look forward ski for Christmas now, but even 5th wave fall on us, I will keep on enjoying my pleasures when my lungs are full clean from my sport.

My way of life when I m so frustrated from no ski on 2020 and 2021, when I never missed a Winter for ski since 50 years, but of course I advice all to be careful when no one here would follow me climbing. When covid cases are increasing in EU, when 600 deaths daily in Romania, more than 1000 deaths daily in Russia, to put pressure to vaccinate, Germany and Austria are thinking about only 2 G, no more tests allowed, when still fast tests at Sharks on last week end.